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Looks like some tower work is going on I25 South just past I76.  I saw a crane and a guy in a red shirt strapped to the top of the tower.  I was drving so I couldn't get a picture. 

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Nope I was on 285 it goes straight to conifer and I went to Costco at river point so I took 285 so I can go to Conifer,  as I said i don't know if it was sprint tower. It was on right hand side of 285 towards mountains next two self service car wash there were two guys on lifts and at that points all antennas were taken down. It could be nexus tower being decommissioned or att/ t mobile. Someone should drive in 285 from Sheridan down to Kipling and see if they can spot tower and car wash about block or two away from 285. 

I think I know where you saw this, I spotted them about a week and a half ago while I was using the car wash.  I thought about taking a pic and posting it here, but I didn't want to be "that guy", getting all excited when spotting someone doing some regular maintenance on a non-sprint tower.  The car wash is just north of 285 and east of Wadsworth, behind the Conoco.  The tower is actually attached to a car repair place called Lakewood Towing and Auto Repair which is adjacent to the car wash.  I am going to look at the "How to spot sprint panels and RRU's" sections of this site and I will stop by there on my way home (i live about a half mile from there and this would likely be the tower I will use from my house, so if this is sprint LTE work, hooray me!).  There were old brown looking panels on it the day i spotted the work going on, so it should be easy to tell if new onew have gone up.

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I think I know where you saw this, I spotted them about a week and a half ago while I was using the car wash.  I thought about taking a pic and posting it here, but I didn't want to be "that guy", .......

Just stopped by the tower and am cautiously optomistic.  When I was there last, the tower and antenna were all brown.  It looks like they painted the tower white and added all new gear.  Not sure if it is Sprint or not.  Someone who knows the equipment please chime in on the pictures below.  If it is I will get Sensorly and start looking for a signal.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vr68dnis3sww17o/gnMucm5dty

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Craig Member Level: 3G EVDO

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That's a very odd tower. Not sure who it is, but it isn't Sprint. There are no Sprint towers within 1/2 mile of that intersection. Hate to burst your bubble(s).

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It's hard to tell if the new coverage showing up on Sensorly is a new tower or just more samples coming in from the two which are definitely lit up. I have to admit I love this kind of data, I wish I could spend some time roaming around filling in the map. My lowly iPhone 4S obviously isn't up to the task though. What's the cheapest way to get a Sensorly compatible phone? Looks like there are some LTE options for $200-$250 or so. That's a little more than I'm willing to pay just to be able to run Sensorly. If I could figure out how to do it for sub-$100 that would maybe be worth it to me.

Off contract? Not much hope of something LTE going sub-100 unless you found a used one on ebay but it would probably be risky even so.

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A question regarding site acceptance: are 3g acceptances for full NV equipment, attached to legacy backhaul, or is it some other factor that makes it not a full LTE site acceptance? Are they still testing the LTE equipment in these 3g accepted locations?

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A question regarding site acceptance: are 3g acceptances for full NV equipment, attached to legacy backhaul, or is it some other factor that makes it not a full LTE site acceptance? Are they still testing the LTE equipment in these 3g accepted locations?

Maybe someone will clarify if I am mistaken, but the 3G acceptance means the NV panels are installed, backhaul is in place and all of the 3G side has been tested and checked as working correctly. The LTE is still in process/testing, but may be active. Basically, I understood that if a site is accepted as 3G, it is up to NV 3G standards, meaning backhaul is complete, pings are sub-100ms, etc, etc. The LTE side might have some tweaking to do, or they may have a more technical issue to sort out before it goes live. 

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Maybe someone will clarify if I am mistaken, but the 3G acceptance means the NV panels are installed, backhaul is in place and all of the 3G side has been tested and checked as working correctly. The LTE is still in process/testing, but may be active. Basically, I understood that if a site is accepted as 3G, it is up to NV 3G standards, meaning backhaul is complete, pings are sub-100ms, etc, etc. The LTE side might have some tweaking to do, or they may have a more technical issue to sort out before it goes live. 

I am not quite sure that backhaul has to be in place for it to be accepted until LTE is accepted.

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A question regarding site acceptance: are 3g acceptances for full NV equipment, attached to legacy backhaul, or is it some other factor that makes it not a full LTE site acceptance? Are they still testing the LTE equipment in these 3g accepted locations?

 

 

Maybe someone will clarify if I am mistaken, but the 3G acceptance means the NV panels are installed, backhaul is in place and all of the 3G side has been tested and checked as working correctly. The LTE is still in process/testing, but may be active. Basically, I understood that if a site is accepted as 3G, it is up to NV 3G standards, meaning backhaul is complete, pings are sub-100ms, etc, etc. The LTE side might have some tweaking to do, or they may have a more technical issue to sort out before it goes live.

Close. 3G accepted doesn't mean backhaul is in place. It usually means it is not in place, actually.

 

Every site has 3G and 4G LTE equipment installed at the same time. When they call for inspection, if backhaul is up and operating they will test the LTE side. If it passes, they accept it. If new backhaul is not ready, they'll test the 3G side only. And if it passes, they accept it.

 

Most of the time when you see only a 3G acceptance, it is connected to legacy backhaul. Except at GMO sites. Typically 3G sites will also have 4G accepted (3G/4G) if they are connected to new backhaul.

 

However, not all 3G/4G sites have the new 3G NV operating, even if accepted. In many instances, 3G legacy will run side by side with NV 4G LTE because the 3G side has to be brought up in clusters.

 

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However, not all 3G/4G sites have the new 3G NV operating, even if accepted. In many instances, 3G legacy will run side by side with NV 4G LTE because the 3G side has to be brought up in clusters.

So they sometimes have both sets of antennas on the same rack temporarily?

 

Does 3g acceptance mean NV 3g has been brought online?

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So they sometimes have both sets of antennas on the same rack temporarily?

 

Does 3g acceptance mean NV 3g has been brought online?

They almost always have both sets of antennas up at the same time. Most sites in the Kansas market still have the legacy 3G network running, or still haven't been deinstalled.

 

3G acceptance does not mean that NV 3G is online.

 

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Craig Member Level: 3G EVDO

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Close. 3G accepted doesn't mean backhaul is in place. It usually means it is not in place, actually.

 

Most of the time when you see only a 3G acceptance, it is connected to legacy backhaul. 

 

Interesting. I would have thought that the backhaul would have to be in place to accept it as NV 3G. So do they go through and retest it once the backhaul is upgraded, or is it pretty much plug and play?

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That's a very odd tower. Not sure who it is, but it isn't Sprint. There are no Sprint towers within 1/2 mile of that intersection. Hate to burst your bubble(s).

Like you said, it isn't Sprint's tower.  It is what is referred to as a stealth tower.  Sprint does have many towers like it.  Pretty much all the towers in Highlands Ranch are stealth towers.

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Interesting. I would have thought that the backhaul would have to be in place to accept it as NV 3G. So do they go through and retest it once the backhaul is upgraded, or is it pretty much plug and play?

3G acceptance simply means that all the proper equipment had been installed correctly, whether it's RRUs on the ground for GMO sites, or the full build.

 

I'm not sure what with had to be done one backhaul arrives.

 

For sites that do have new new backhaul, I believe once other sites in the cluster are ready, it can be activated remotely, but that's an assumption more that anything.

 

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Did they accept a new 4g location? I was at 1-70 and Peoria at the McDonalds and got a little 4g signal for about 2 minutes. I wasn't running sensorly though cause I was almost out of battery. 

 

Look up a few posts. I mentioned the newly accepted tower near 88th and Pena. If you contribute a few dollars to the site, you'll get access to better maps that show accepted towers. It's very handy and you can contribute as much as you like. Easily worth $5-$10. 

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Look up a few posts. I mentioned the newly accepted tower near 88th and Pena. If you contribute a few dollars to the site, you'll get access to better maps that show accepted towers. It's very handy and you can contribute as much as you like. Easily worth $5-$10.

Got a link?

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Look up a few posts. I mentioned the newly accepted tower near 88th and Pena. If you contribute a few dollars to the site, you'll get access to better maps that show accepted towers. It's very handy and you can contribute as much as you like. Easily worth $5-$10.

 

What does "accepted" actually mean in the real world?

 

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Do any of you guys have an evo 4g lte? I have to turn data on/off to be able to connect to lte signal, anybody else having this issue?

That's common to have to cycle airplane to get LTE in a partial covered area. Also the Evo LTE is known to have very poor LTE coverage performance. Probably one of the worst handsets next to the Gnex. Upgrade as soon as you can.

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