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Oops, forgot I was testing that. On Android 7+, it may become a necessity if you have an Alert enabled. If no text is displayed, an exception is occurring and the Alert does not fire. Still exploring this.

 

 

Are you saying the earfcn is not always accurate on these ALU sites in Samsung territory? Or in general? Are you seeing inaccuracies via the root method or the native Nougat routine?

 

-Mike

The biggest issue with the root method is it occasionally fails with error briefly on screen, at which time you must exit scp and reenter to get earfcn back. No such issue with the api.

 

Both sometimes get in transition or erroneous earfcn. Also true with other apps. Other data items can also be in transition such as pci, plmn, or tac.

 

Of course CDMA has a host of inaccuracies. Ultimately the best way to display for known sites is BID and distance. Sprint also appears to tinker with them. Some phones much worse than others, especially with 1x800.

 

Of course I flag any exceptions in the data I analyze, so these things stand out for me. Fortunate we have many people logging so bad data gets corrected soon. Multiple phones also help, but not always.

 

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Mike, the status bar LTE signal indicator becomes stale and will not update for some reason when on B25.

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Mike, the status bar LTE signal indicator becomes stale and will not update for some reason when on B25.

The widget is doing it sometimes too. Did it start on Android 7 for you? I also noticed that my Pixel takes a long time (over a minute sometimes) to get a signal update if it's sitting still. That's not the app, that's the phone not refreshing anything (presumably because the data isn't changing significantly).

 

-Mike

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Some B41 sites are coming up Sprint B41 SC. 

 

Sprint B41 310120 [0B3A1500] 432 22786 0 -93 42.142588 -86.368112
Sprint B41 SC 310120 [0B3A1501] 448 22786 0 -85 42.134551 -86.367959
Sprint B41 310120 [0B3A1502] 8 22786 0 -73 42.129891 -86.370806
 
They should be even like this one from Ann Arbor,MI. "Even" like B25/B26. Any one in Ann Arbor,MI going to check it out?
 
Sprint B41 SC 310120 [08CA3F01] 458 17938 0 -106 42.246455 -83.764741

 

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The widget is doing it sometimes too. Did it start on Android 7 for you? I also noticed that my Pixel takes a long time (over a minute sometimes) to get a signal update if it's sitting still. That's not the app, that's the phone not refreshing anything (presumably because the data isn't changing significantly).

-Mike

Noticed it after the beta update, never noticed it before but that's not to say it wasn't doing it.

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Some B41 sites are coming up Sprint B41 SC.

 

Sprint B41 310120 [0B3A1500] 432 22786 0 -93 42.142588 -86.368112
Sprint B41 SC 310120 [0B3A1501] 448 22786 0 -85 42.134551 -86.367959
Sprint B41 310120 [0B3A1502] 8 22786 0 -73 42.129891 -86.370806

 

Great catch, thank you! I discovered that I didn't have the "even" third character requirement programmed correctly for the B41 Mini Macros or small cells.

 

-Mike

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With today's beta:

 

I like calling it LTE 850, which occurs with modem enabled while rooted. Without modem enabled LTE frequency disappears ( used to say LTE 800 ). 1x800 should be consistent, ie 1x850.6ab6ecf72b2436a745a5c5168940fe2f.jpga44eeede688e60ca4debda22dcab8b94.jpg4f1c4bb196a7c3c30bb91c848bc0c181.jpg

 

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On my LG V20 (android 7):

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Edit: works after reboot.

 

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LTE 850 shows up with API

 

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I'm going to argue the opposite; I prefer LTE 800.  It allows at-a-glance differentiation between B5 (LTE 850) and B26 (LTE 800).

 

Thanks for the update!  I've downloaded it now, and can't wait to try it out, probably tomorrow on my way to/from work.

 

- Trip

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I'm going to argue the opposite; I prefer LTE 800.  It allows at-a-glance differentiation between B5 (LTE 850) and B26 (LTE 800).

 

Thanks for the update!  I've downloaded it now, and can't wait to try it out, probably tomorrow on my way to/from work.

 

- Trip

 

Perhaps add SMR.  This change also may not be intentional as it is not listed in the release notes.

 

My general opinion is to go with how the carrier and their contractors refer to it.  For example, most Sprint contractors and a small sample of Sprint engineers do not know what GMO is (Ground Mount Option), but they do know GMR (Ground Mounted Radio).  I do not know the answer in this case.

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I like calling it LTE 850, which occurs with modem enabled while rooted. Without modem enabled LTE frequency disappears ( used to say LTE 800 ). 1x800 should be consistent, ie 1x850.

This is why we beta test.. oops! That was not intentional. It was very late and I wasn't paying attention when I finished up some of the new EARFCN stuff. It will go back to 800 next round. It doesn't impact any logs, that's just a display element.

 

-Mike

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Agreed on 800 lte, my local Speint engineers call it that way in Columbus.....

 

Thanks for the update Mike!!!

 

Any shipments on an airave yet? They ran out of the OG magic boxes but hopefully an airave will get sent but no promises.

 

 

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Any shipments on an airave yet? They ran out of the OG magic boxes but hopefully an airave will get sent but no promises.

 

Fingers have been crossed but I haven't seen or heard anything!

 

-Mike

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Changed Wikipedia band 26 to LTE 800 from LTE 850.  We will see if it sticks.

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No 10x10 for Sprint Samsung 1st carrier LTE with earfcn.

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No 10x10 for Sprint Samsung 1st carrier LTE with earfcn.

 

The only 10x10 indicators implemented at the moment are GCI-based B25 second carrier ones. I did see the EARFCNs you have shared but I haven't gone down that road yet.

 

-Mike

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Spotted the T-Mobile so was just hoping.

 

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Changed Wikipedia band 26 to LTE 800 from LTE 850.  We will see if it sticks.

 

Probably not, but we do things our own way here! The site I used for my LTE-related calculations is this one: http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php

 

-Mike

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Probably not, but we do things our own way here! The site I used for my LTE-related calculations is this one: http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php

 

-Mike

 

Great site. I use the same one, plus there is another for cdma channels: http://niviuk.free.fr/cdma_band.php

 

 

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On my Verizon Note 5, It doesn't say LTE AWS anymore...is this due to the EARFCN calculation now? The note 5 doesn't show it.

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On my Verizon Note 5, It doesn't say LTE AWS anymore...is this due to the EARFCN calculation now? The note 5 doesn't show it.

You should still see whatever you had before, except some T-Mobile users who will need EARFCN data in order to see a band. Many users will now see more info. Where is AWS missing from? Are you seeing any EARFCN stuff (guessing not, on a Samsung)? Is it showing any band info at all?

 

-Mike

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The latest update is not showing frequency band information for 800, 1900, 2500. I guess this is because it's a Samsung?

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The latest update is not showing frequency band information for 800, 1900, 2500. I guess this is because it's a Samsung?

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Bands 25 and 41 and 41 MM showing fine this morning in my Sprint Samsung market on LG V20 and G2s.

 

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Bands 25 and 41 and 41 MM showing fine this morning in my Sprint Samsung market on LG V20 and G2s.

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Samsung devices not the network gear OEM, I'm in Ericsson market.

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