clbowens Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 Clear's B41 works pretty well in KC... works the basement, and my parent's house is almost a mile from the site. Clear's B41 works nowhere NEAR as good as that here. I'm about half a mile from a site, I get 1 bar on the 1st and 2nd floor of my house and drop to 3G in the basement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 That may be one way to look at it. Another way is it adds confusion to managing use of my roaming quota. I wonder how many people will check the coverage map, think they are in a Roaming + area, then burn through regular roaming minutes. Not providing users a clear way to know what type of coverage they're using seems like a way to generate a lot of unhappy calls to customer service when roaming caps are inadvertently reached. No, you are overestimating users. Most will just see the "R" on screen and believe they are roaming. Many will even have roaming data disabled -- because they do not know how to enable or fear roaming charges. AJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightShift Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 No, you are overestimating users. Most will just see the "R" on screen and believe they are roaming. Many will even have roaming data disabled -- because they do not know how to enable or fear roaming charges. AJ Time will tell. I wonder how many users you're underestimating -- especially those who are members of S4GRU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Time will tell. I wonder how many users you're underestimating -- especially those who are members of S4GRU. Still, no. You are overestimating numbers now. S4GRU members and similarly minded wireless users are like a few raindrops in a downpour. Minuscule compared to the whole. Anyway, informed S4GRU members will know where Sprint has pseudo native Roaming+ coverage and where it has standard roaming coverage. But there is no way to indicate that in the notification bar on devices. That is not how PRLs work. The roaming indicator is either on or off -- there is no in between. Previously, Sprint tried flagging the pseudo native SIDs in the PRL as native -- roaming indicator off. That did not work out well. Not well for Sprint. Not well for its pseudo native partners. People who lived in or moved to places like the Oklahoma Panhandle would have Sprint service, more or less perma roaming on pseudo native coverage. That hit Sprint with roaming costs. And it deprived local pseudo native partners like PTCI of potential subs that should not have been using Sprint. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Can't you also flash the roaming indicator? I thought I remembered seeing that somewhere along the way. - Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Can't you also flash the roaming indicator? I thought I remembered seeing that somewhere along the way. I am not quite sure what you are asking. Not that S4GRU recommends it, but users could edit their PRLs to show no roaming indicator for Roaming+ pseudo native coverage. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I am not quite sure what you are asking. Not that S4GRU recommends it, but users could edit their PRLs to show no roaming indicator for Roaming+ pseudo native coverage. AJ And that would only effect 1x and EVDO roaming. It would have no effect on LTE Roaming...when that should ever occur. Using Tapatalk on BlackBerry Z30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordsutch Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I think Trip is referring to the "extended network" indicator that Verizon phones (used to?) have for people roaming on preferred partner networks - I don't think Sprint has ever used this option. I suppose they could use it for the pseudo-native areas, but it'd probably generate a lot of support calls from people seeing the flashing "R" and being unsure what to make of it since it's not documented in Sprint's phone manuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Yes, my point was that you said the indicator can only be either on or off, but I thought it could also flash. - Trip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 If that's the case, it would probably be best to make the standard roaming with caps the flashing 'R' as it would catch the attention of the user that they are burning through their roaming allotment. And I would make the Roaming+ the steady 'R', as there is no concern in using it. To me, I wouldn't call Roaming+ as pseudo-native. To me, nTelos is pseudo-native. It shows on maps as native. Where there is a wholesale agreement to provide full native service to Sprint customers. In the case of full pseudo-native, like nTelos, a roaming indicator would not be used at all. Using Tapatalk on BlackBerry Z30 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbowens Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 If that's the case, it would probably be best to make the standard roaming with caps the flashing 'R' as it would catch the attention of the user that they are burning through their roaming allotment. And I would make the Roaming+ the steady 'R', as there is no concern in using it. To me, I wouldn't call Roaming+ as pseudo-native. To me, nTelos is pseudo-native. It shows on maps as native. Where there is a wholesale agreement to provide full native service to Sprint customers. In the case of full pseudo-native, like nTelos, a roaming indicator would not be used at all. Using Tapatalk on BlackBerry Z30 Or 'R' and 'R+'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Or 'R' and 'R+'. So, you want Sprint to start requiring operator specific firmware on all handsets again? No more unlocked, third party handsets. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Or 'R' and 'R+'.Android doesn't have a second roaming option, another roaming graphic for a second roaming scenario. It can though flash on and off one of the existing graphics. That's why a flashing R can be used for a second roaming scenario. But not another unique graphic. It would need to be modified specifically for Sprint otherwise. And in an era of new unlocked handsets, we need to stick to the standard as close as possible. Perhaps in the future Android, iOS, BB and Windows Phone will institute an extra roaming option. That would be needed. Using Tapatalk on BlackBerry Z30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbowens Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 So, you want Sprint to start requiring operator specific firmware on all handsets again? No more unlocked, third party handsets. AJ I don't know what that means, I just wish/hope they would distinguish when the phone is in roaming and roaming+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I don't know what that means, I just wish/hope they would distinguish when the phone is in roaming and roaming+. What you propose with an actual "R+" indicator probably would require Sprint specialized firmware. So, we could all go back to Sprint splash screens and Sprint bloatware. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clbowens Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 What you propose with an actual "R+" indicator probably would require Sprint specialized firmware. So, we could all go back to Sprint splash screens and Sprint bloatware. AJ Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 And I don't think Sprint is going to go through the trouble. Besides, I don't think they'll mind if you don't overuse your Roaming+ coverage. Using Tapatalk on BlackBerry Z30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arysyn Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Or 'R' and 'R+'. Perhaps SprintR+RUs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill875 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Carolina West Wireless has always shown as Sprint without a Roaming indicator. Would that change now that it is showing as Roaming+ or might it stay the same and continue to just show as "Sprint"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Carolina West Wireless has always shown as Sprint without a Roaming indicator. Would that change now that it is showing as Roaming+ or might it stay the same and continue to just show as "Sprint"? Someone will have to check inside a recent PRL. But the present understanding is that all Roaming+ coverage will trigger the roaming indicator. AJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camcroz Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Sprint signs LTE roaming deals with C Spire, SouthernLINC and several rural operators Does anyone know when the deal with SI wireless takes affect. I just rolled through there roaming zone which i believe was a roaming+ area but i only got 3g and no lte Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Sprint signs LTE roaming deals with C Spire, SouthernLINC and several rural operators Does anyone know when the deal with SI wireless takes affect. I just rolled through there roaming zone which i believe was a roaming+ area but i only got 3g and no lte Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk Nope. We have been waiting a long, long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camcroz Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Nope. We have been waiting a long, long time.What's the holdup. Is it sprint taking its time or are the rural carriers taking their time. If they signed an agreement then you'd think they want that going into effect asap Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 What's the holdup. Is it sprint taking its time or are the rural carriers taking their time. If they signed an agreement then you'd think they want that going into effect asap Sent from my SM-G925P using Tapatalk Don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Sprint signs LTE roaming deals with C Spire, SouthernLINC and several rural operators Does anyone know when the deal with SI wireless takes affect. I just rolled through there roaming zone which i believe was a roaming+ area but i only got 3g and no lte When has Roaming+, which is still very new, ever been presented as LTE roaming? AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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