Jump to content

T-Mobile LTE & Network Discussion V2


lilotimz

Recommended Posts

No bad at all what so ever. I added to the line additions to see how the network is and based on what I've seen its really good compared to my sprint service. But I want to see updated maps of the 300 pop of coverage. Since it's finished so early.

 

With the map on their website that they are promoting is that with the extended lte and stuff?

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Does Sprint get to count their 3g and more roaming as native coverage? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

DTCapMarketsCoverage.png

 

I do not believe that map.  It is wildly optimistic.  A project of that size is just not that easy.  Otherwise, Sprint or T-Mobile would have done it years ago.  No, some factor or another will keep T-Mobile from fully realizing that goal by the end of the year.  

 

The costs of adding thousands of new sites could prove too expensive, and funding could be scaled back.  Along similar lines, the timeframe required to add that many new sites could prove too short, extending the project by months or years.

 

On the other hand, if T-Mobile actually does cover the map as projected by the end of the year, it will be low density, low quality coverage.  Just toss up a site every 25 miles and call it a day.  That is what we call a superficial gesture.  It technically may fill in the map, but it will not fill in coverage in real world usage.  And I do not consider that a goal accomplished.

 

AJ

 

While I can't speak to the quality of the coverage, it's darn impressive they've covered 300MM pops by the end of October - any way you measure it.

 

All around, the stats are impressive.  While we can debate the quality of covering 300MM pops, the financials are what they are, and they're damn impressive.

 

Short recap:

  • 30.3% service margin ($1.9 billion Adjusted EBITDA)
  • $1.12 billion in capex
  • $411 million in Free Cash Flow
  • Just over 1 million NET postpaid adds
  • Postpaid churn of 1.46%

 

I have no idea how T-Mobile does it but it's amazing they can add subs at this rate and keep churn under 1.5%.

 

Bottom line - this is a good thing.  If T-Mobile can do it, there is no reason why Sprint can't do it better given Sprint's far superior spectrum position.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As someone that's experienced T-Mobile's coverage, the maps are hugely optimistic, at least on handsets. LTE coverage with acceptable in-building conditions? Nope. No signal, not even Edge. Strong LTE signal outside, limited connectivity in homes? Nope, Edge/H+ only.

 

They also have some Edge only sites near me that displays as LTE on their coverage map. Not sure if they're delayed upgrades or what, but anyone can reach a map like that with false claims.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Live stream of the call:

 

 

I switched 4 lines over to T-Mobile this past quarter, still have one on Framily on Sprint. I live in a band 12 market, and honestly never even see HSPA in all of central Maryland. I get solid coverage inside buildings. Sprint iPhones seem to really struggle with band selection, and so they drop to 3G and park there. Once Sprint wraps up band 41, I think they will finally be able to tune band 26 for coverage instead of capacity. But until then, their just isn't enough density in Maryland to make Sprint a viable option.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm going to monitor T-Mobile deployment up here. If the coverage and performance is adequate for our needs, we will commute all our lines to Tmo.

 

I know you mentioned it's a coverage issue, but it still seems strange (unsettling, awkward, etc) hearing such words from the admin of a Sprint based site. Will Sprint be able to deliver where TMo has? I never thought I would be formulating such a question. Times are a changin?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I know you mentioned it's a coverage issue, but it still seems strange (unsettling, awkward, etc) hearing such words from the admin of a Sprint based site. Will Sprint be able to deliver where TMo has? I never thought I would be formulating such a question. Times are a changin?

From what I hear, Sprint only has roaming agreements with another EvDo carrier in SD, at least where Robert lives.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sprint...2.07% port ratio with Sprint.

 

"I would expect Sprint to post positive numbers for the quarter, they are doing a good job" - John Legere

Code 10 is the sky falling?!?!?! John said something nice about Sprint...I can't...I just can't.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  • Like 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

With regard to the 300mil pops claim, show me the money. Their maps certainly don't show 300mil pops of LTE, and neither do mapping applications like Sensorly.

They must be counting roaming partners as native.  Their current coverage map is in no way accurate.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

CFO: "We have never had in-market roaming, so we don't have those costs like Sprint, which spent over over $500M last year to Verizon alone. Those cost savings are used in other areas."

Ouch.

 

In other news today, they are acquiring additional A-block spectrum from AB License Co.

 

 

Sprint...2.07% port ratio with Sprint.

 

"I would expect Sprint to post positive numbers for the quarter, they are doing a good job" - John Legere

No that's not 2.07%, that's 2.07x. For every 100 customers that go from T-Mobile to Sprint, 207 customers go from Sprint to T-Mobile.

Edited by luvixuha
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

To prove the coverage John needs to tell his loyal customers to download sensorly and go map their areas.

 

Overall I'm impressed. My T-Mobile line is true to the coverage map for Columbus,OH. I don't have any indoor coverage issues. Slightly I'm intrigued with this new uncarrier event. I don't think I could even leave my Sprint service though.

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I know you mentioned it's a coverage issue, but it still seems strange (unsettling, awkward, etc) hearing such words from the admin of a Sprint based site. Will Sprint be able to deliver where TMo has? I never thought I would be formulating such a question. Times are a changin?

Sprint doesn't offer service in my area. I currently use AT&T. I'm trying both GoogleFi and Tmo to see which way I will end up switching our whole family. If at all.

 

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

CFO: "We have never had in-market roaming, so we don't have those costs like Sprint, which spent over over $500M last year to Verizon alone. Those cost savings are used in other areas."

How much native coverage could that amount of money achieve with at least b25/26?

 

Sent from my LGLS991 using Tapatalk

Link to comment
Share on other sites

CFO: "We have never had in-market roaming, so we don't have those costs like Sprint, which spent over over $500M last year to Verizon alone. Those cost savings are used in other areas."

 

Translation:  We have a lot of areas of "No Service" and prefer not to pay the roaming costs that would be incurred in those areas.

 

AJ 

  • Like 14
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Similar Content

    • By DesignGuy
      Fierce has a poll posted... and is utilizing a bracket style contest to find out who their readers think is the most powerful person in the telecom industry. Between Marcelo and the pink clad Chihuahua of a man... I give it to Marcelo. I think the final winner should be Masa, it's is a name people know and will get to know more in the coming years worldwide. But for the current poll, it's an easy decision for me!  
       
      http://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/vote-now-to-decide-who-most-powerful-person-u-s-telecom-industry
       
       
       
    • By lilotimz
      T-mobile Ericsson Cell Equipment
       
      For Ericsson markets t-mobile uses what is known as AIR antenna units which have the radio unit integrated with the antenna. This type of setup significantly reduces signal loss from the radio to the antenna since they're both practically next to each other and not sepearated by coax jumper cables like that of a remote radio unit.
       
      Basic Ericsson AIR21 setup
      (Note typically there are 2 Ericsson AIR per sector)

       

       

       
      Ericsson AIR21 + Band 12 700 mhz Equipment
       
      Note the addition of a new low band 700 mhz capable antenna + Ericsson RRUS11 B12 (remote radio units) in addition to new TMA (tower mounted amplifiers) connected to the AIR antenna. The new Ericsson RRUS11 B12 + Antenna addition is for tmobiles band 12 700mhz (L700) deployment. 

      (Credit: tmo.rocks)
       
      Credit for the photographs belong to whoever took it. You know who you are!
    • By derrph
      With the introduction of the new plans Sprint has announced. I told one of my friends about the $60 unlimited plan and she was shocked yet happy about it. She currently has T-Mobile and there has been times where my Sprint service has out performed her service even in the city with puling up information and out of town...well... you already know how that went. She was talking about switching and stuff but then she sent me a typical article bashing Sprint and I got irritated by it and I had to explain to her that Sprint is not bad at all. These articles are based on past experiences from 3+ years ago. I told her I'm pulling 60+ mbps on LTE but she's worried about Sprint being slow ( because of what she read). Guys give me some advice on persuading her to give Sprint a chance. 
       
      I feel like articles that are being posted is what keeps away customers.  It makes no sense that T-Mobiles 2g network is not spoken about when they are in the news for changes to plans and such. But good ol Sprint makes changes and articles that get posted rips Sprint apart for filth. 
    • By belusnecropolis
      http://ces.cnet.com/8301-35284_1-57616761/how-i-got-t-mobiles-ceo-kicked-out-of-at-ts-ces-party/
      Roger Cheng @cnet appears to have had the most fun out of this, it kind of wrote the story for him I guess, so there is that. Also, just noticed the extra title Q, that is gonna drive some people nuts today. Top lel.
  • Posts

  • Recently Browsing

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...