T-Mobile LTE & Network Discussion V2

[tybo31316]

The main difference is the call itself... one is (4G LTE) is done in a typical wireless call fashion.... VoLTE is a voice-call over the data side of the network... The "experts" on this forum can pick this up and explain further.    Basically VoLTE allows a more efficient use of the network because the call is treated like a packet of data...    

Also with VoLTE voice traffic is priority over all traffic. So even in congested areas you should be able to make and receive calls with no issues.

[dkyeager]

On 8/2/2019 at 7:54 PM, Trip said:

Yesterday, WRC and WMPT transitioned to their new channels, clearing some of 600 MHz in the DC area.

Today?  https://imgur.com/a/Pg7Bclb

- Trip

No grass growing under their feet.

[Trip]

Got back from the southern part of the state today.  Wow, has T-Mobile lit up.  I locked my phone to Band 71 today, and I've connected to 26 of them so far since Friday, assuming Culpeper and Fauquier are not part of the market.  (They were running before Friday.)  That includes near-constant connection on B71 from about the Fairfax-Prince William County line to home south of Alexandria.

- Trip

[bigsnake49]

Damn, that's impressive! That's why I wanted T-Mobile to buy Sprint. To light a fire under their behind!

[Brad The Beast]

T-Mobile just deployed 600MHz in my area. 

[danlodish345]

T-Mobile just deployed 600MHz in my area. 

Mine is deployed in my area but it's only a 5 megahertz carrier

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[jthawks]

Here are t mobile small cells in north Denver off pecos at around 73rdish. There is an actual site off 88th and pecos. Fastest speed ever for me. Yes I was right in front of it.

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[jthawks]

So band 71 is new here but useless. My phone was staying on band 2 at -120 to 125, then catch band 12 which wasn't much help, and then band 71 didn't help. I wasn't far from the site and no really big obstacles blocking signal. I'm assuming it's still being tested?

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[danlodish345]

So band 71 is new here but useless. My phone was staying on band 2 at -120 to 125, then catch band 12 which wasn't much help, and then band 71 didn't help. I wasn't far from the site and no really big obstacles blocking signal. I'm assuming it's still being tested?

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Fenwick island Delaware

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[jthawks]

So here is this site now with it's base station now. Not live yet. It does have the typical GPS antenna that t mobile uses. I'm wondering if this is a new dish site? Also they're three t mobile sites not far from this site.

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[belusnecropolis]

2 minutes ago, jthawks said:

So here is this site now with it's base station now. Not live yet. It does have the typical GPS antenna that t mobile uses. I'm wondering if this is a new dish site? Also they're three t mobile sites not far from this site.

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What does it say on the power meter?

[jthawks]

1 hour ago, belusnecropolis said:

What does it say on the power meter?

No power yet

[RAvirani]

1 hour ago, jthawks said:

So here is this site now with it's base station now. Not live yet. It does have the typical GPS antenna that t mobile uses. I'm wondering if this is a new dish site? Also they're three t mobile sites not far from this site.

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That looks like a T-Mobile 600-ready setup. Dual Commscope antennas. 

[jthawks]

1 hour ago, RAvirani said:

That looks like a T-Mobile 600-ready setup. Dual Commscope antennas. 

Haven't seen one like this.  Do you know the logical reason for why carriers have different antenna setups? 

[RAvirani]

33 minutes ago, jthawks said:

Do you know the logical reason for why carriers have different antenna setups? 

Size/weight/structural limitations are the most common reason. Carriers try to deploy bigger/heavier higher-gain antennas where possible and resort to smaller/lighter lower-gain antennas when necessary. 

Carriers also have different setups for different beamwidths (e.g. in my market, Verizon uses different antennas for sites with 90° sector spacing than for sites with 120° sector spacing).

Lastly, carriers may use different antennas that are the same size due to their different gain characteristics. For example, Sprint stocks two different 72" octoport dualband antennas. Their 800/1900 gain figures are 14.7/18.0 for the RFS variety and 15.0/17.2 for the Commscope variety. 

[greenbastard]

On 8/22/2019 at 5:43 PM, RAvirani said:

That looks like a T-Mobile 600-ready setup. Dual Commscope antennas. 

4x4 low band MIMO too.

[RAvirani]

20 minutes ago, greenbastard said:

4x4 low band MIMO too.

Yes. Both antennas are 2x low/4x high. 

[Wireless Junkie]

No generator from what I see, and that's common around here for both Sprint & T-Mobile. Southern LINC, AT&T, and Verizon have generators at every site.

Unlike Sprint however, T-Mobile phones don't typically roam when a tower goes offline due to a power failure. You're just stuck with no signal. Both Sprint and T-Mobile lose signal between 45 minutes and 2 hours every time we have a power outage. My Sprint line roams on Verizon 1x and AT&T LTE, whereas my T-Mobile phone displays no service. SoLINC of course stays up for me.

[dkyeager]

On 8/22/2019 at 5:04 PM, jthawks said:

So here is this site now with it's base station now. Not live yet. It does have the typical GPS antenna that t mobile uses. I'm wondering if this is a new dish site? Also they're three t mobile sites not far from this site.

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All the Dish site plans I have seen through permits indicate protection sites.  Typically just one antenna and RRH.

[jthawks]

Well I use to think the antennas to the left in the pic next to sprint's was Verizon. Nope t mobile

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[jthawks]

Is there anybody in Kenmore Washington area?  Needing some service update in some area's for my mom.  Thanks

[RAvirani]

15 minutes ago, jthawks said:

Is there anybody in Kenmore Washington area?  Needing some service update in some area's for my mom.  Thanks

I'm definitely an expert in that region. What can I do for you?

[jthawks]

49 minutes ago, RAvirani said:

I'm definitely an expert in that region. What can I do for you?

Ok so my lives off juanita drive and 170th. She currently has sprint and likes her service there,  she claims her brother who has t mobile doesn't have great service there.  Trying to get my mom to switch cause it will be cheaper.  Sprint and t mobile share a site so I'm not believing my mom that t mobile sucks there.  So just wondering if you been around that area and if service is decent? Also how is t mobile there compared to sprint? 

[RAvirani]

36 minutes ago, jthawks said:

Ok so my lives off juanita drive and 170th. She currently has sprint and likes her service there,  she claims her brother who has t mobile doesn't have great service there.  Trying to get my mom to switch cause it will be cheaper.  Sprint and t mobile share a site so I'm not believing my mom that t mobile sucks there.  So just wondering if you been around that area and if service is decent? Also how is t mobile there compared to sprint? 

The problem with T-Mobile in that area is capacity. 

T-Mobile has a site on the Peoples Storage building (6908 NE 181st St, Kenmore, WA 98028), although that site is always very congested. This is because it is the only site that serves WA-522 as well as the commercial and residential surrounding areas. To make matters worse, the site is 1900/2100 only, and she lives on the beta-gamma sector split. 

Sprint has three sites serving that area (one on the Peoples Storage building, one at 47.7582566, -122.2599984 and one at 47.7562238, -122.2395026). These sites do a significantly better job with both coverage and capacity in the area. 

[jthawks]

58 minutes ago, RAvirani said:

The problem with T-Mobile in that area is capacity. 

T-Mobile has a site on the Peoples Storage building (6908 NE 181st St, Kenmore, WA 98028), although that site is always very congested. This is because it is the only site that serves WA-522 as well as the commercial and residential surrounding areas. To make matters worse, the site is 1900/2100 only, and she lives on the beta-gamma sector split. 

Sprint has three sites serving that area (one on the Peoples Storage building, one at 47.7582566, -122.2599984 and one at 47.7562238, -122.2395026). These sites do a significantly better job with both coverage and capacity in the area. 

Well shoot,  my mom was right.  Haha. So I guess she should stick it out for now and pay the price.  Thank you for the great info I will pass that on. Wish there was a way to find out legit upgrades coming to that site.  I should try and get a ticket started?