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[Mercurial1]

I would hope they convert the 2 sites near Huntingdon, PA. Beyond that there aren't many more...

My inlaws have a campground on the juniatta river in huntingdon. I would love some better coverage there

[cdk]

Totals are updated through 5/30.

[Tengen31]

any iDEN sites in minnesota that have been upgraded?

[cdk]

Totals are updated through 7/7.

 

Another impressive showing. USCC conversions have passed the number of iDEN conversions. The USCC conversions might hit the 200 mark at this rate. The number of iDEN conversions continues at a good rate and there has been a second WiMAX conversion!

 

We know Project Cedar has been funded, but there hasn't yet been an acceptance for one of those sites, How long before the USCC conversions wind down? When will we see another uptick in new sites and iDEN conversions that we know are coming?

[cdk]

any iDEN sites in minnesota that have been upgraded?

 

Probably, you can check through the Network Vision Site Acceptance thread and total them up and/or ask those who hang out in the Minnesota thread...

[S4GRU]

We know Project Cedar has been funded, but there hasn't yet been an acceptance for one of those sites

A rumor I heard recently was that Project Cedar was put on hold last year. So either its funding was raided or never fully put into place.

 

 

 

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[bretton88]

A rumor I heard recently was that Project Cedar was put on hold last year. So either its funding was raided or never fully put into place.

 

 

 

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They'll have to get that going at some point soon to satisfy build out requirements. That would be a bummer if it is really delayed.

[S4GRU]

They'll have to get that going at some point soon to satisfy build out requirements. That would be a bummer if it is really delayed.

Yeah, but the build out requirements would only need less than a dozen sites in all of Montana.

 

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[cdk]

A rumor I heard recently was that Project Cedar was put on hold last year. So either its funding was raided or never fully put into place.

 

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Pure speculation but maybe that is how they are funding some of the newer iDEN conversions and new sites (that appears to have picked up the last couple of months)... They might consider them a higher priority as they are in areas that already have an existing customer base. 

[cdk]

Totals are updated thru 8/13.

 

I got to think they are getting close to the end of Project Ocean at this point....

[payturr]

Totals are updated thru 8/13.

 

I got to think they are getting close to the end of Project Ocean at this point....

I'm inclined to believe Sprint is focusing on Project Ocean's completion prior to Project Cedar, nail every site completely focused on Montana and then turn them on when it's all done, then start advertising throughout Helena

[lilotimz]

I'm inclined to believe Sprint is focusing on Project Ocean's completion prior to Project Cedar, nail every site completely focused on Montana and then turn them on when it's all done, then start advertising throughout Helena

 

Let's just say T-mobile is not the only one deploying new cell equipment in Montana right now. 

[bretton88]

Let's just say T-mobile is not the only one deploying new cell equipment in Montana right now.

Sure. Verizon is too [emoji3]

[SkyGuy98]

I hope The Iowa City area has old iDEN equipment that has yet to be replaced and I hope that current band 25/26 will be optimized properly. I know most towers have bands 25/26, but usually coverage is pretty small and going inside at all throws down to slow 3G (EV-DO).

[Cataract2]

I hope The Iowa City area has old iDEN equipment that has yet to be replaced and I hope that current band 25/26 will be optimized properly. I know most towers have bands 25/26, but usually coverage is pretty small and going inside at all throws down to slow 3G (EV-DO).

Shoot, I would hope they would optimize B26/B25 and B41 in my area.

[SkyGuy98]

Shoot, I would hope they would optimize B26/B25 and B41 in my area.

Yeah. I guess that's all anyone can ask for. 2.5gHz in the IC area is owned by an internet company, so it will be a LONG time before the IC area even GETS band 41, let alone gets it optimized. Hopefully the CCA/RRPP will go live soon with pseudo-native US Cellular LTE because USCC's LTE coverage is amazing in IC.

[lilotimz]

Yeah. I guess that's all anyone can ask for. 2.5gHz in the IC area is owned by an internet company, so it will be a LONG time before the IC area even GETS band 41, let alone gets it optimized. Hopefully the CCA/RRPP will go live soon with pseudo-native US Cellular LTE because USCC's LTE coverage is amazing in IC.

People need to give up in the idea of pseudo native coverage from uscc. They're not a sprint affiliate. Only sprint affiliates get pseudo native coverage.

 

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[SkyGuy98]

I know they aren't. It just seems like they "might" become one later this year from what I have read on this site and Reddit(Unofficial and speculative, I know). Whether it happens or not, it'd be nice for Sprint to optimize their towers. I know that the IC area is lower priority than a city like Des Moines or Cedar Rapids, but I know they will get it done and I have faith that they WILL be the #1 or #2 network in 18-24 months like Marcelo says!

[lilotimz]

I know they aren't. It just seems like they "might" become one later this year from what I have read on this site and Reddit(Unofficial and speculative, I know). Whether it happens or not, it'd be nice for Sprint to optimize their towers. I know that the IC area is lower priority than a city like Des Moines or Cedar Rapids, but I know they will get it done and I have faith that they WILL be the #1 or #2 network in 18-24 months like Marcelo says!

 

Roaming will happen on USCC. It'll just have caps. 

[SkyGuy98]

And that'll do until Sprint gets optimized

[Josh]

Optimization will only take sprint so far, but having a LTE roaming will allow sprint customers who visit those areas to have a better experience & not want to leave.

It will still be roaming & will have a cap even with an unlimited plan.

 

Idk where anyone heard that USCC would want to become a sprint affiliate,but I've seen their last quarterly report & they're adding customers & turning a profit! They are not in desperate need and the only way they would even sell is if someone was willing to severely overpay.

As much as I would like to see softbank buy USCC to merge with sprint, he's looking a T-Mobile or bust it seams.

[bmoses]

I know they aren't. It just seems like they "might" become one later this year from what I have read on this site and Reddit(Unofficial and speculative, I know). Whether it happens or not, it'd be nice for Sprint to optimize their towers. I know that the IC area is lower priority than a city like Des Moines or Cedar Rapids, but I know they will get it done and I have faith that they WILL be the #1 or #2 network in 18-24 months like Marcelo says!

 

amen to this! optimization needs to happen so bad around here (here being des moines)! and not just cranking up the power on B26 and optimizing it, B25 needs it too. i find places all over the metro (on B25) where running a speedtest near a tower nets a 20+ meg download yet going down the road a bit will drop you down to 5 meg or less. i'm convinced that the rootmetrics report speeds were more due to bad optimization affecting the results then they were from towers being overloaded.

[WiWavelength]

i find places all over the metro (on B25) where running a speedtest near a tower nets a 20+ meg download yet going down the road a bit will drop you down to 5 meg or less.

 

That is not lack of optimization.  That is always going to happen -- it is the nature of wireless.  Speeds will decline with distance.  You cannot, for example, have adequate signal to support 64QAM on the downlink everywhere.

 

For another example, you probably have a Wi-Fi router at home.  Walk around your house or property with SignalCheck Pro active, and watch how negotiated link speeds decline with distance and obstructions.  It is simply physics.

 

AJ

[bmoses]

That is not lack of optimization.  That is always going to happen -- it is the nature of wireless.  Speeds will decline with distance.  You cannot, for example, have adequate signal to support 64QAM on the downlink everywhere.

 

For another example, you probably have a Wi-Fi router at home.  Walk around your house or property with SignalCheck Pro active, and watch how negotiated link speeds decline with distance and obstructions.  It is simply physics.

 

AJ

 

yeah i know that, but should distance kill speeds even if signal strengths remain close? i'm talking going from a -88 signal and getting 20+ meg down to a -93 signal and them dropping to less than 5 meg. and distance wise we are talking 1 mile from the tower vs 3 miles from the tower.

[WiWavelength]

yeah i know that, but should distance kill speeds even if signal strengths remain close? i'm talking going from a -88 signal and getting 20+ meg down to a -93 signal and them dropping to less than 5 meg. and distance wise we are talking 1 mile from the tower vs 3 miles from the tower.

 

Yes.  A -88 dBm signal is almost four times stronger than a -93 dBm signal.  Other factors besides RSRP -- such as RSRQ, SINR, and MIMO -- may have changed in that distance.  For a 5 MHz FDD band 25 carrier at 3 miles distance from the serving site, that should be cell edge, and 5 Mbps would be great speeds, honestly.

 

AJ