Ascertion Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 "Fake" Cell Towers (Was Is this even possible?) http://www.welivesecurity.com/2014/08/28/android-security-2/Sent from my SM-G900P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belusnecropolis Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Very. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1992 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Law enforcement has been using Stingrays for a few years now that do similar stuff. So it is very possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Law enforcement has been using Stingrays for a few years now that do similar stuff. So it is very possible The FCC is looking into it and something tells me that they are mad as hell! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kckid Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Seventeen fake cellphone towers were discovered across the U.S. last week, according to a report in Popular Science. http://www.businessinsider.com/mysterious-fake-cellphone-towers-intercept-calls-2014-9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhammett Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/mysterious-phony-cell-towers-could-be-intercepting-your-calls Other than at the South Point Casino, does anyone know where these towers are located more specifically than the map they provide? I saw references to GSM. Is it only for GSM networks where this is an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawvega Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 http://www.popsci.com/article/technology/mysterious-phony-cell-towers-could-be-intercepting-your-calls Other than at the South Point Casino, does anyone know where these towers are located more specifically than the map they provide? I saw references to GSM. Is it only for GSM networks where this is an issue? I was wondering the same thing. I do seem to recall reading articles some time back detailing how GSM was far more vulnerable than CDMA. Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Chemist Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 A fellow chemist here at work who is also responsible for our IT just came over to me and showed me an MSN article on this same thing. It was quoted from Popular Science. Scarey stuff! http://money.msn.com/investing/post--mysterious-fake-cellphone-towers-found-across-us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcltoys Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 NSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnicekid Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 Here is another link.. Its on my local news now. However it does say they aren't the size of cellphone towers.. http://wwlp.com/2014/09/05/fake-cell-phone-towers-could-be-stealing-your-information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnwk Posted September 5, 2014 Share Posted September 5, 2014 What kind of encryption does CDMA use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathanm1978 Posted September 6, 2014 Share Posted September 6, 2014 Maybe we should invite Kevin Mitnick to join the site and see what he can tell us about these.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8nuguy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 i think i remember reading something about this last year also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg4icg Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The fake towers are gsm. Kind of hard replicating the handshaking going on in cdma between phone and the system. Which is why no one can bring a Sprint phone on Verizon and vice/versa. Not without doing some major work in the phones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbsynergy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 There were talks about doing exactly this at Defcon a few years ago. They described all the details on how it can be done, why someone would do it, and offered recommendations to the GSM carriers on how to mitigate it. Essentially it's "stop using GSM and move to LTE ASAP" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrbelex Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Here are a bunch more articles: Wired - Phone Firewall Identifies Rogue Cell Towers Trying to Intercept Your Calls Washington Post - Tech firm tries to pull back curtain on surveillance efforts in Washington Ars Technica - FCC to examine “unauthorized” cell snooping devices And today, CNBC - If you're on a phone in DC, someone could be listening Some of this is just PR for the company selling a so-called "cryptophone," but I'm sure some of the issues being raised are also real. My understanding is that IMSI Catchers are GSM specific, so they might not target Sprint, but with Verizon being the biggest network in the country, I'm sure there's a CDMA equivalent. Given that many of you guys are real experts in this area, my questions are: Do the techniques described pass the smell test of technical feasibility? Have you ever noticed anything which leads you to believe similar techniques are being used on the Sprint network? Is this something you're worried about? Anything you can do to avoid or deter being caught up in this kind of tracking/surveillance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nrbelex Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 And today, CNBC - If you're on a phone in DC, someone could be listening That last article even has a nifty map of supposed cell phone interceptors: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_gusto Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Law enforcement has been using Stingrays for a few years now that do similar stuff. So it is very possibleHere's an article in the bay area about law enforcement using stingrays http://m.ktvu.com/news/news/local/2-investigates-cell-phone-surveillance/nhRSR/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dedub Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 http://www.pocketables.com/2015/01/snoopsnitch-for-root-finds-spy-cell-networks.html haven't tried it (haven't bothered to re-root on lollipop). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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