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Probably not. I wonder who Sprint will merge with? I think Charter, Dish, or T-Mobile but T-Mobile prefers a cable company.

Anyone but, Comcast is fine by me.

 

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Anyone but, Comcast is fine by me.

 

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Comcast just announced Xfinity Mobile, where it's an MVNO for Verizon: http://corporate.comcast.com/news-information/news-feed/comcast-xfinity-mobile

 

I don't think Comcast would take on Sprint as well.

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Especially after Comcast and a few others are losing a patent suit that Sprint brought on.

 

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Especially after Comcast and a few others are losing a patent suit that Sprint brought on.

 

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600 MHz Spectrum Auction Results for T-Mobile were just released.

 

Bellevue, Washington — April 13, 2017 — Buckle up, carriers. It’s about to get real. T-Mobile (NASDAQ: TMUS) today just confirmed the Un-carrier’s jaw-dropping results from the recently concluded and successful 600 MHz FCC spectrum auction. The Un-carrier won 45% of all low-band spectrum sold, covering 100% of the US and Puerto Rico and enabling the Un-carrier to compete in every single corner of the country. T-Mobile walked away with a staggering 31 MHz nationwide on average, quadrupling the Un-carrier’s low-band holdings, for a total of $7.99 billion, the company’s largest investment ever. T-Mobile is also sharing plans to put that spectrum to use later this year in parts of the country, defying industry expectations.

 

This was Sprint's take on 600 MHz back in November 2016:

 

 

“We did not participate in the 600 MHz (auction) not because we didn’t have money at the time, or we were under-resourced for it,” he said. “It is simply spectrum that is spectrum of the past. The world is moving toward high-capacity wireless data networks, and in that world the best and most efficient spectrum that is needed for that… is mid-band spectrum, the spectrum that we have, the 2.5 GHz spectrum.”

 

Robbiati also noted that the TV broadcasters’ airwaves currently up for grabs may not be available for several years. The FCC has issued a 39-month repacking plan for that spectrum, enabling the broadcasters to move to other airwaves while their former spectrum is reshuffled for wireless use.

 

“Why invest in 600 MHz spectrum if that spectrum doesn’t really cater for the future, and also it’s spectrum you cannot deploy for four years?” Robbiati asked rhetorically. “And it doesn’t have an ecosystem in support as widespread as 2.5 spectrum, which is the largest ecosystem in the world.”

 

 

T-Mobile is saying it will start deploying it later this year. Sprint's CFO said it couldn't be deployed for four years.

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600 MHz Spectrum Auction Results for T-Mobile were just released.

 

 

This was Sprint's take on 600 MHz back in November 2016:

 

 

T-Mobile is saying it will start deploying it later this year. Sprint's CFO said it couldn't be deployed for four years.

I don't like Sprints take on that. Tmobile wanted it for coverage. While Sprint has the holdings to do with B26 T-mobile will have the bigger advantage with 15x15 vs 5x5 on Sprint.

 

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I don't like Sprints take on that. Tmobile wanted it for coverage. While Sprint had the holdings to do with B26 T-mobile will have the bigger advantage with 15x15 vs 5x5 on Sprint.

 

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While it would be nice to have that extra bit of spectrum, it really isn't much of anything in 2 to 3 years. Maybe for those who need it in the mountains!? ;)

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While it would be nice to have that extra bit of spectrum, it really isn't much of anything in 2 to 3 years. Maybe for those who need it in the mountains!? ;)

Or that vzw covers 2.5 square miles Tmobile will be at that with this. I don't see how Sprint can compete when they are so far behind on Coverage. Ive been to areas with no signal and it sucks. I'll be traveling starting tomorrow for vacation and I'm sure I'll be losing signal.

 

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I don't like Sprints take on that. Tmobile wanted it for coverage. While Sprint has the holdings to do with B26 T-mobile will have the bigger advantage with 15x15 vs 5x5 on Sprint.

 

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While it would be nice to have that extra bit of spectrum, it really isn't much of anything in 2 to 3 years. Maybe for those who need it in the mountains!? ;)

Higher spectrum is needed for 5G, 4K and IoT.  The positive I see out of this is they can merge with Sprint, combining low and high band spectrum, but the price tag for Sprint will not be cheap. And this will take at least 5 years to complete the roll out nationwide, but I'm sure Tmo will brag as soon as one tower is live with 600mhz. 

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Or that vzw covers 2.5 square miles Tmobile will be at that with this. I don't see how Sprint can compete when they are so far behind on Coverage. Ive been to areas with no signal and it sucks. I'll be traveling starting tomorrow for vacation and I'm sure I'll be losing signal.

 

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I wouldnt know, I have never lost signal going up and down the east coast, slow speeds!? Yup, losing complete signal for more than a few seconds no..

 

Now people I know on Tmobile, Ive seen them lose all service in my building.  :lol:

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I wouldnt know, I have never lost signal going up and down the east coast, slow speeds!? Yup, losing complete signal for more than a few seconds no..

I live in Minnesota. Sprint loses signal or LTE in places. Including Wisconsin also. I'll be driving thru Illinois, Missouri, Mississippi, Louisiana then Florida.

 

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I have never lost signal going up and down the east coast, 

 

 

Yeah, I don't believe that. Drive up and down the Merritt. When you're stuck between two LTE sites, your Sprint device will be on weak 1x or no service. This happens pretty often.

 

Come up to Boston. We have plenty of Sprint dead-zones.

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I live in Minnesota. Sprint loses signal or LTE in places. Including Wisconsin also. I'll be driving thru Illinois, Missouri, Mississippi, Louisiana then Florida.

 

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I have driven from Wisconsin to Florida mulitple times.  I have not lost any signal, 3G yes, but never a no signal on Sprint.

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Yeah, I don't believe that. Drive up and down the Merritt. When you're stuck between two LTE sites, your Sprint device will be on weak 1x or no service. This happens pretty often.

 

Come up to Boston. We have plenty of Sprint dead-zones.

Drive to DC and to New London all the time, never have.

 

I will drive up to Boston this weekend, we'll see..

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I wouldnt know, I have never lost signal going up and down the east coast, slow speeds!? Yup, losing complete signal for more than a few seconds no..

 

Now people I know on Tmobile, Ive seen them lose all service in my building.  :lol:

 

 

If T-Mobile is able to have a dense nationwide deployment of 600 MHz, this may no longer happen in that building.

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600 MHz Spectrum Auction Results for T-Mobile were just released.

 

 

This was Sprint's take on 600 MHz back in November 2016:

 

 

T-Mobile is saying it will start deploying it later this year. Sprint's CFO said it couldn't be deployed for four years.

 

What I do not get is why some analysts keep quoting that Sprint's band 41 is worth at least 120 billion. If it was $7.99 billion for 31 MHz of prime low band spectrum for T-Mobile, I do not see how that is possible. Low band spectrum is important, as is higher band spectrum. You cannot put all your eggs in one basket, so to speak. I want Sprint to be number 1 or 2, but since I have switched I can say there is something to be said for network speed consistency. Also, being able to hand a call off from WiFi to LTE and back to WiFi is pretty cool. I expect voLTE to launch sooner rather than later for Sprint, but there is still a lot of work to be done.

 

Yeah, I don't believe that. Drive up and down the Merritt. When you're stuck between two LTE sites, your Sprint device will be on weak 1x or no service. This happens pretty often.

 

Come up to Boston. We have plenty of Sprint dead-zones.

This is definitely true and why we ended up switching. Going from Hartford County, CT to Rhode Island and you will be on 1x and 3G in Eastern CT for a good chunk. Coverage outside of major cities and towns was still there and quite strong for voice, but anything requiring data was definitely spotty. Sprint is still a long way away from being able to offer voLTE in many suburban areas. 

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Sprint is getting bypassed and left behind. I see T-Mobile has even started using Metro PCS to target Sprint. A prepaid MVNO? I see what they did there.

 

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Wow just wow. Seems like a good price Tmo paid. Keep in mind, had sprint been competing that would have likely driven the price higher.

What does this mean for sprint? Well, who knows.

 

 

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Sprint is getting bypassed and left behind. I see T-Mobile has even started using Metro PCS to target Sprint. A prepaid MVNO? I see what they did there.

 

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They've been doing this for a while and it's because they can't/won't match the price of Sprint on their T-Mobile brand. It's easier to do so with a prepaid brand.

 

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While it would be nice to have that extra bit of spectrum, it really isn't much of anything in 2 to 3 years. Maybe for those who need it in the mountains!? ;)

 

 

As a baseline, look at what Verizon was able to accomplish with 10x10 MHz of 700 MHz nationwide.

 

Here's what T-Mobile is going to be working with:

 

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T-Mobile will have 31 MHz nationwide on average.

 

Either T-Mobile's future vision for networks is right... or Sprint's is....

 

Sprint needs to get 2.5 GHz on the rest of its sites, upgrade all of the 3G sites and seed as many HPUE devices into the user base as possible.

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I have driven from Wisconsin to Florida mulitple times.  I have not lost any signal, 3G yes, but never a no signal on Sprint.

Me niether. I-75 all the way from Atlanta to Dayton, OH is mostly LTE.  Small patches of 3G.  Significant portion is even band 41.  Except for parts of Kentucky where you'll stay on bands 25 and 26.    But no Sprint signal at all? I haven't encountered that in years (outside).

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As a baseline, look at what Verizon was able to accomplish with 10x10 MHz of 700 MHz nationwide.

 

Here's what T-Mobile is going to be working with:

 

600MHzMap_low.jpg

 

T-Mobile will have 31 MHz nationwide on average.

 

Either T-Mobile's future vision for networks is right... or Sprint's is....

 

Sprint needs to get 2.5 GHz on the rest of its sites, upgrade all of the 3G sites and seed as many HPUE devices into the user base as possible.

I think this caught Sprint off guard the way Verizon caught everyone off guard with their unlimited plan. It's really crunch time for Sprint. Either sink or swim.

 

 

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I don't like Sprints take on that. Tmobile wanted it for coverage. While Sprint has the holdings to do with B26 T-mobile will have the bigger advantage with 15x15 vs 5x5 on Sprint.

 

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Sprint's CFO said it wasn't for lack of money that it didn't participate in the 600 MHz Auction: We either believe him or we don't.

 

Sprint's CFO also said 600 MHz is "spectrum of the past": We either agree with him or we don't.

 

Sprint's CFO also said that this 600 MHz spectrum couldn't be deployed for "four years". We either believe him or we don't, especially since Legere said "T-Mobile is also sharing plans to put that spectrum to use later this year in parts of the country, defying industry expectations."

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I think this caught Sprint off guard the way Verizon caught everyone off guard with their unlimited plan. It's really crunch time for Sprint. Either sink or swim.

 

 

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Why did this catch Sprint off guard?  Tmo needed this spectrum and had been talking about this for years.  Verizon came out with unlimited when they had been against it for years.

 

Sprint has enough spectrum to use, just need to execute it. They have more mid-band spectrum now (2.5) than 600mhz nationwide.  They just need to execute. 

 

Also, it looks like they are farming 1900hmz in south florida. I have seen 2nd carrier more and more.  I suspect they will have VoLTE on 1900 and keep LTE data on b41. 

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Since this is the most active of threads here, I want to ask a question to those that are still using Sprint service.  If you don't care to read, please move on, and I'm not moving to Tmobile or any other suggestions, my lines consume a lot of data (~14-16 gigs on a few of my lines per month....I don't know what the heck my sister does, but I'm pretty sure my nephew just streams movies all day) and this is important that I keep it unlimited and we stay on Sprint.

 

Current plan: 

 

Been a Sprint customer since 2000 and have had the "Everything Data 1500 Shared Anytime Minutes Included" for a very long time. We have 5 lines, we lease 4 of those 5 and have loyalty credits on them. We have the insurance on all phones.  Plus we have corp discount through my employer.  Total here is like $386 but the loyalty credits put it in the ballpark of $330. 

 

Offered plan: 

 

Sprint is offering the Unlimited Everything for our lines with the specialist I spoke to. She says that we'll have unlimited data on all 5 lines.  Cost would be $165 ($55+35+25+25), Device lease costs $80 (26,18,18,18), Insurance $55 ($11 each), fees would take this to about $345.  In addition, the upgrade to this plan would be the 10 gigs of hotspot per line a month included.  Video quality would be HD.  Loyalty fees disappear with this plan. 

 

My specific question is should I change plans.  Would you switch?  Is there a catch I don't see?

 

This is the first time I've considered this in 15+ years but it seems like the new plan with the hotspot is a better deal overall for the same cost.  Thoughts??  I value your opinions greatly all knowers of the knowing, all seeing of the seeing. 

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