Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread

[Arysyn]

Actually, while I mentioned Florida as being south, I'd also consider it to be southeast, same with Georgia. Then north of Georgia is mideast.

[utiz4321]

Actually, while I mentioned Florida as being south, I'd also consider it to be southeast, same with Georgia. Then north of Georgia is mideast.

If only the word conformed to the way you felt. We would have a crazy looking wireless industry with plans around 12 dollars a month.

 

 

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[Arysyn]

If only the word conformed to the way you felt. We would have a crazy looking wireless industry with plans around 12 dollars a month.

 

 

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Yep, and a few wireless carriers with tons of spectrum capacity on a publicly run network with macro and small cells everywhere, giving people over 100 mbps in times of congestion. Everyone has their own opinion and the right to it, as does the person you attacked for their opinion on the south, which they have the right to.

[kg4icg]

Yep, and a few wireless carriers with tons of spectrum capacity on a publicly run network with macro and small cells everywhere, giving people over 100 mbps in times of congestion. Everyone has their own opinion and the right to it, as does the person you attacked for their opinion on the south, which they have the right to.

Hate to be the bringer of bad news, but the government owns the spectrum, you have to pay for license to use it.

 

While some don't, I'm granted a license renewable every 10 years that covers certain frequencies right into 300 ghz

 

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[Arysyn]

Hate to be the bringer of bad news, but the government owns the spectrum, you have to pay for license to use it.

 

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I was responding to utiz's suggestion of the world under a situation where I basically had my way of things. I wasn't referring to how things are.

 

I have my views of things which some people agree with, and some don't. I'm not going to attack someone for having a differing view, but I'm also not going to refrain from defending mine from being attacked, and I'll also defend the right for others to hold their views freely too.

[Arysyn]

More trouble with Radio Shack parent, General Wireless :

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-03/radioshack-s-successor-said-to-be-preparing-bankruptcy-filing

 

I wonder how a company could think its plans enough for a comeback against much larger store chains, such as Best Buy. Perhaps instead of making a partnership deal with Sprint, they should have gone the route of being a specialist merchant of unlocked smartphones for all carriers, eventually growing enough to offer exclusives to get more people into these stores.

[bigsnake49]

As far as coverage, Sprint has Verizon beat in all 878 miles of interstate 10 in Texas. From Anthony to Orange, At&t is first, followed by Sprint, then Verizon, and finally T-Mobile. Verizon has a few coverage gaps and has to rely on Sprint and West Central Wireless (formerly of Five Star Wireless) for roaming in the hill country.

 

A few years ago, I would have said Sprint was #1 due to At&t having no coverage southeast of El Paso. All GSM users would roam on Mexican carriers in that stretch of highway before veering off to Sierra Blanca. But it seems they've taken care of that now. Haven't been to El Paso in a while now, but I'm sure T-Mobile has improved as they now show LTE in areas where they had no coverage in the past.

 

Please don't go by coverage maps. They lie. I have AT&T and I drove all of I-10. They have major gaps.

[bigsnake49]

Virginia is part of the Mid- even though it is south of the Mason Dixon line.

 

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Virgina is part of the Mid-Atlantic area same with North Carolina and Maryland. SC is part of the South East.

[JustinRP37]

SC and VA are NOT in the southeast. I livr in south Florida and have tsken road trips from fort Lauderdale to atlanta. I only lost LTE when I het close to I-10.

 

 

I have also been to Tampa and Florida. Speeds are more than usable. On LTE all the time. Granted i dont check my phone every minute of the day. But whebi do, i always have LTE and usable data.

 

On a side note...Japan Roaming is awesome.

 

 

Says who?  There is no universal definition of the regions of the US.  I consider Virginia to be part of the southeast, and definitely part of the South.  (I note that Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, who I would argue help to define the South, both were/are based in Virginia.)

 

- Trip

 

 

This is something I never could understand or agree with people saying those states as being in the "south", To me, Texas is in the south. Virginia and the Carolinas are mideast. 

Not to take this thread off topic, but I have literally never heard anyone call any area of the USA the mideast or Middle East. If you said that in conversation people would think you are talking about Iraq, Syria, Israel, etc, not Georgia. You cannot go further south and east in the continental USA than Georgia and Florida, so they are definitely southeast.

 

Further for those saying the divisions are baseless, that is not true. The US Census Bureau defines the regions of the USA, each with divisions: 1) Northeast: New England and Mid-Atlantic, 2) Mid-west: East north-central and west north-central, 3) South: south Atlantic, east south-central, west south-central, and 4) West: Mountain and Pacific. 

 

https://www.census.gov/geo/reference/gtc/gtc_census_divreg.html

 

[Arysyn]

 

Not to take this thread off topic, but I have literally never heard anyone call any area of the USA the mideast or Middle East. If you said that in conversation people would think you are talking about Iraq, Syria, Israel, etc, not Georgia. You cannot go further south and east in the continental USA than Georgia and Florida, so they are definitely southeast.

 

Further for those saying the divisions are baseless, that is not true. The US Census Bureau defines the regions of the USA, each with divisions: 1) Northeast: New England and Mid-Atlantic, 2) Mid-west: East north-central and west north-central, 3) South: south Atlantic, east south-central, west south-central, and 4) West: Mountain and Pacific. 

 

https://www.census.gov/geo/reference/gtc/gtc_census_divreg.html

 

 

 

That gave me an interesting thought of Isis storming the areas of the "south" during the confederacy and taking part of the civil war. Now that is fantasy, S4GRUians!

 

You do have a point about this, Justin, and your view is fair. Perhaps I ought to clarify the area ought to be the centraleast. I know you're correct about how people do call it the "South". I'm definitely not disputing that, just something I don't see as being a good thing to call it. I'm in favor of being geographically correct when making statements of location, rather than reference to a cultural view. There have been a lot of bad things that have happened as the result of cultural "norms" of those times, and society would be better trying to get beyond that quickly as possible, including traditions common to those times. Now, I'll admit just calling those areas the "south", may not be that harmful as other things could be, but I think why not try to change that by being more geographically correct, and not refer to the mason-dixon line as a relevant barrier to people nowadays.

[dedub]

In america, everything is relative to washington dc and the original 13 colonies.

 

That is why the south is south and not so much south east, and states like missouri are the 'midwest' and not so much central.

[greenbastard]

Please don't go by coverage maps. They lie. I have AT&T and I drove all of I-10. They have major gaps.

Are you saying Verizon is the best in Texas? Because they're not. At&t may have coverage gaps in the hill country and in the small canyons just east of Fort Stockton, but every carrier does as well. Not much can be done about that terrain. At&t is the best carrier along I-10 in Texas.

[dedub]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/report-sprint-betting-big-on-trump-could-merge-with-t-mobile-or-comcast/

[RedSpark]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/report-sprint-betting-big-on-trump-could-merge-with-t-mobile-or-comcast/

 

 

That would represent quite a change of course for Comcast, which is supposedly working on this now with Verizon: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcast-Prepares-For-Mid2017-Wireless-Service-Launch-139048

[Arysyn]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/report-sprint-betting-big-on-trump-could-merge-with-t-mobile-or-comcast/

 

There is very little chance of Comcast having interest in Sprint. Comcast already has a long-standing great relationship with Verizon. The only somewhat chance between those two choices then, is T-Mobile. However, that would put enormous power in a foreign company over the U.S. wireless industry, and that remains doubtful that Trump's FCC, which Trump's focus on American industry, would allow this to happen. The only way I can see T-Mobile/Sprint possibly coming around, is if Masayoshi Son sells hs entire stake in Sprint, with Softbank totally dropping out of any ownership of Sprint, other than some personal stocks in Sprint, perhaps, then sells its entire ownership in Sprint to DT. The U.S. government would look bad then f its pro-business led administration tries to "hold back" any company from merging together two entities of which it already owns. Meaning then and only then could DT get Sprint and T-Mobile merged together.

[RedSpark]

For you people in the Atlanta and Chicago Markets....

 

Sprint bundles free Sling TV service from Dish Network with 4 lines of unlimited data, offer available in two markets

 

Sprint's "FAQs about Sling TV" Page

[ericdabbs]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/report-sprint-betting-big-on-trump-could-merge-with-t-mobile-or-comcast/

 

 

If I had to choose, i would much rather see Sprint and Comcast merge and Dish and Tmobile merge.  Tmobile really could use the Dish spectrum to further than spectrum portfolio since they have the least amount of spectrum of all the major carriers.

[nexgencpu]

For you people in the Atlanta and Chicago Markets....

 

Sprint bundles free Sling TV service from Dish Network with 4 lines of unlimited data, offer available in two markets

 

Sprint's "FAQs about Sling TV" Page

Awesome deal!

 

They need to expand this! ASAP! SlingTV has come a long way since its inception, I've been using it since beta and its a ton better now than it was just 6 months ago.

[ericdabbs]

Looks like AT&T is getting to join the LTE-U/LAA fray at 5 GHz.  Where is Sprint in this fold?  They need to jump on this right when the other 3 major carriers are doing the same.

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/at-t-to-begin-selling-laa-equipment-for-5-ghz-soon-service-will-launch-sometime-year

[RedSpark]

Awesome deal!

 

They need to expand this! ASAP! SlingTV has come a long way since its inception, I've been using it since beta and its a ton better now than it was just 6 months ago.

 

 

Pretty surprising to see this. I imagined Sprint doing a bundle with Google Fiber given their past work on Google Voice Integration, etc.

 

It's for the Orange Tier. Service is free until May 2018, and then rises to $17/month, which appears to be $3 off the normal price.

[RedSpark]

Looks like AT&T is getting to join the LTE-U/LAA fray at 5 GHz.  Where is Sprint in this fold?  They need to jump on this right when the other 3 major carriers are doing the same.

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/tech/at-t-to-begin-selling-laa-equipment-for-5-ghz-soon-service-will-launch-sometime-year

 

Here's Sprint's take on it from this Wireless Week article:

 

Though other carriers like AT&T and T-Mobile have also announced plans to roll out Gigabit LTE in 2017, Saw argued Sprint’s nationwide spectrum depth would be a differentiating factor.

 

“You need to ask them, one, are you using your actual licensed spectrum or are you also adding in unlicensed spectrum as well. Some of them would have to use License Assisted Access, which is using unlicensed spectrum as well. There’s nothing wrong with that except you have less control with the use of unlicensed spectrum,” Saw said.

 

“The other thing you need to be asking is the ubiquity of what they’re trying to do. Can you demonstrate gigabit class devices only in the lab … or are you able to demonstrate gigabit class devices only in certain markets in Arizona and not nationwide?” he continued. “For Sprint we have always been clear that we have a lot of 2.5 (GHz spectrum) nationwide and we have the right technology that is optimized for data, which is TDD. So when we say we’re going to roll out gigabit class devices, I mean all our phones once they can support 4x4 MIMO and 256-QAM will be usable nationwide.”

[nexgencpu]

Pretty surprising to see this. I imagined Sprint doing a bundle with Google Fiber given their past work on Google Voice Integration, etc.

 

It's for the Orange Tier. Service is free until May 2018, and then rises to $17/month, which appears to be $3 off the normal price.

G fiber is nice and all, but it has an extremely limited potential customer base. Also, this works on almost all OS's and a ton of set top streaming boxes.

 

I am on beta blue package and have officially cut the cord.

[Arysyn]

For you people in the Atlanta and Chicago Markets....

 

Sprint bundles free Sling TV service from Dish Network with 4 lines of unlimited data, offer available in two markets

 

Sprint's "FAQs about Sling TV" Page

 

 

If I had to choose, i would much rather see Sprint and Comcast merge and Dish and Tmobile merge.  Tmobile really could use the Dish spectrum to further than spectrum portfolio since they have the least amount of spectrum of all the major carriers.

 

While I definitely support what Eric said here and agree with him on it, RedSpark has me thinking I could be very wrong about the mergers, possibly going the opposite. Now that I'm back with T-Mobile and happy with the discount going through, I'm kind of scared of the possibility of Comcast going with T-Mobile, though all things seem to indicate Comcast still having a close relationship with Verizon. I say this despite knowing the benefits for me personally of T-Mobile and Comcast together, that being a potential bundle discount between my Xfinity home internet and T-Mobile wireless services. I know Comcast would be very bad for T-Mobile, so I definitely don't want to think about that happening.

[bigsnake49]

Are you saying Verizon is the best in Texas? Because they're not. At&t may have coverage gaps in the hill country and in the small canyons just east of Fort Stockton, but every carrier does as well. Not much can be done about that terrain. At&t is the best carrier along I-10 in Texas.

 

I have AT&T and I spent almost 3 years in the Austin area. While they covered the area pretty well they really fell down covering the FTM roads. Verizon did cover them pretty well. Both Sprint and T-Mobile were worthless on FTM roads.

[ericdabbs]

Here's Sprint's take on it from this Wireless Week article:

 

Though other carriers like AT&T and T-Mobile have also announced plans to roll out Gigabit LTE in 2017, Saw argued Sprint’s nationwide spectrum depth would be a differentiating factor.

 

“You need to ask them, one, are you using your actual licensed spectrum or are you also adding in unlicensed spectrum as well. Some of them would have to use License Assisted Access, which is using unlicensed spectrum as well. There’s nothing wrong with that except you have less control with the use of unlicensed spectrum,” Saw said.

 

“The other thing you need to be asking is the ubiquity of what they’re trying to do. Can you demonstrate gigabit class devices only in the lab … or are you able to demonstrate gigabit class devices only in certain markets in Arizona and not nationwide?” he continued. “For Sprint we have always been clear that we have a lot of 2.5 (GHz spectrum) nationwide and we have the right technology that is optimized for data, which is TDD. So when we say we’re going to roll out gigabit class devices, I mean all our phones once they can support 4x4 MIMO and 256-QAM will be usable nationwide.”

 

That is great and all John Saw but we know now that Wifi 5 GHz is everywhere and while he may be right in that it may not provide stable Gigabit LTE speeds due to resource sharing at 5 GHz with unlicensed spectrum, the fact is that 2.5 GHz LTE deployment is going to take years and years and years before it comes to full fruition if ever with the same coverage and areas that 5 GHz Wifi currently serves.  There are still many markets without any 2.5 GHz LTE.  All talk but no walk.

 

Sorry but I will take the chance of getting less than 1 GB of LTE speeds and combining it with 5 GHz unlicensed LTE speeds to relieve capacity now.