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On 8/31/2018 at 9:27 PM, Hypeo said:

Because in markets where there network is not that great, they are shooting themselves on the foot.

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I think the real answer is to improve those markets with more sites, but this can not be done in isolation.  To do that they need more cash from the successful markets.  I would not be surprised to see a premium for 5g service for that reason.  Pricing is whatever the market will bear.

Currently Sprint likely incurs more expensive roaming in these weak areas.  Furthermore they likely analyze sites on current profitability.  I think their current way of handling pricing in weak service areas is to give credits to whiners.

The question then becomes is the issue weak signal or overloaded sites?  I tend to think many of Sprint issues are related to limited backhaul because it has such a big impact on their operating costs.  If any area has fewer customers, then it will tend to have greater variation in network performance just based on queue theory.   The good news is if these sites do not have triband, then they will likely get more backhaul when that occurs and then they can increase the band 25 coverage because of band 41.  Note that not all areas have band 41 (or band 26 LTE).   Sprint may also be seeing if the merger goes through in these areas.  No sense in improving a weak area if T-Mobile already has great coverage. 

My general advice is not to worship any carrier.  While reading more scientifically based market reports such as Root Metrics is good, it still is best to actually measure carriers in the areas you need it with the type of phone you will likely use.  Ideally you have the best signal phone the carrier offers for these tests.  Currently that would be the Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+/Note 9 for Sprint and T-Mobile.  Likely for AT&T as well.  Uncertain for Verizon.  Apple users tend to have to suffer worse signal performance (including lack of latest bands/carrier aggregation) to get the other features they love.

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13 hours ago, dkyeager said:

I think the real answer is to improve those markets with more sites, but this can not be done in isolation.  To do that they need more cash from the successful markets.  I would not be surprised to see a premium for 5g service for that reason.  Pricing is whatever the market will bear.

Currently Sprint likely incurs more expensive roaming in these weak areas.  Furthermore they likely analyze sites on current profitability.  I think their current way of handling pricing in weak service areas is to give credits to whiners.

The question then becomes is the issue weak signal or overloaded sites?  I tend to think many of Sprint issues are related to limited backhaul because it has such a big impact on their operating costs.  If any area has fewer customers, then it will tend to have greater variation in network performance just based on queue theory.   The good news is if these sites do not have triband, then they will likely get more backhaul when that occurs and then they can increase the band 25 coverage because of band 41.  Note that not all areas have band 41 (or band 26 LTE).   Sprint may also be seeing if the merger goes through in these areas.  No sense in improving a weak area if T-Mobile already has great coverage. 

My general advice is not to worship any carrier.  While reading more scientifically based market reports such as Root Metrics is good, it still is best to actually measure carriers in the areas you need it with the type of phone you will likely use.  Ideally you have the best signal phone the carrier offers for these tests.  Currently that would be the Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+/Note 9 for Sprint and T-Mobile.  Likely for AT&T as well.  Uncertain for Verizon.  Apple users tend to have to suffer worse signal performance (including lack of latest bands/carrier aggregation) to get the other features they love.

Of course Sprint knows what to do but it does not hurt to remind them. You need more sites closer. Densify is the name of the game. So is triband on all your sites. Also please allocate more backhaul. No reason for me to get 21Mbps on a 3xCA band 41 site with a -94dbM signal.

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Another win for Sprint in my market El Paso ... Fastest average download speed @17.9mbps... passed TMO on network speeds.. 

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Wowww looking at the speeds from the 1st half of the year and now, that's a huge jump in speeds.  This is the Sprint we all longed for when it comes to putting that all spectrum they have to use.

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Wowww looking at the speeds from the 1st half of the year and now, that's a huge jump in speeds.  This is the Sprint we all longed for when it comes to putting that all spectrum they have to use.
Sprint is pushing..and even in Pittsburgh they overall scored higher then TMO there 0fed5c46b1b07475eb9f109598ce2103.jpg

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Sprint is pushing..and even in Pittsburgh they overall scored higher then TMO there 0fed5c46b1b07475eb9f109598ce2103.jpg

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if they only did this level of work last year. the level if network investment is right in line with what T-Mobile has been giving over the last few years. Sprint definitely would've been in a stronger position today and probably better than T-mobile. Better late than never. they are laying a good foundation in the event the merger is not approved or they pull out.

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2 hours ago, tyroned3222 said:

Another win for Sprint in my market El Paso ... Fastest average download speed @17.9mbps... passed TMO on network speeds.. 

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That jump in El Paso is extremely notable because it has historically been one of Sprint worst major markets. In half a year Sprint went from being not recommendable at all to being able to say they only slightly worse than Verizon and AT&T.

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That jump in El Paso is extremely notable because it has historically been one of Sprint worst major markets. In half a year Sprint went from being not recommendable at all to being able to say they only slightly worse than Verizon and AT&T.
Ya, great improvmemts by Sprint and still a few more sites are getting upgraded to band 41 currently.. just wish network reliability was a little higher on the score.. I think it could mean a few drops to 3G are happening , but nothing that hasnt happened on att or tmo. So, Sprint is right there with everyone competiting

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30 minutes ago, tyroned3222 said:

Ya, great improvmemts by Sprint and still a few more sites are getting upgraded to band 41 currently.. just wish network reliability was a little higher on the score.. I think it could mean a few drops to 3G are happening , but nothing that hasnt happened on att or tmo. So, Sprint is right there with everyone competiting

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It's likely the lack of Band 26 that's hurting the reliability score. Sprint just needs to invest in small cells to fill in what gaps there are in network coverage.

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