Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread

[Tengen31]

As someone who lives right by a 15mhz b25 market I can tell you it's great. At Disney world it is more reliable than B41 in upload with speeds in the 15-25mbps range and matches it in download most of the time and that's without 4x4 mimo and 256qam.

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I remember hearing some people complaining about sprint coverage at Disney. When I was there almost a year ago I had no issues. I don't know if they just improved it from the past or what. Yeah the wide band LTE was great. I got a 35 or so upload when I was there.

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[Terrell352]

I remember hearing some people complaining about sprint coverage at Disney. When I was there almost a year ago I had no issues. I don't know if they just improved it from the past or what. Yeah the wide band LTE was great. I got a 35 or so upload when I was there.

 

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Most people there were on b41 so b25 at 15mhz thrived

 

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[Tengen31]

Most people there were on b41 so b25 at 15mhz thrived 
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I would like to see when densify the area with both bands. When 25+41 CA goes love there it will be ever better. Or 25+26 even

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[nexgencpu]

41 minutes ago, Terrell352 said:

I don't think it's a big deal for 2 reasons. The first reason is Sprint is barely faster and I would be willing to bet T-mobile still has much higher upload speeds so when rootmetrics comes out TMobile would still be faster. The second reason is Sprint has been fast in Seattle for years now. If they took a much worse market like Savannah GA, Charleston SC, New Orleans, Memphis ect and brought them to #1 or #2 then I would be impressed.

In my opinion Seattle is somewhat notable because its T-mobile's home turf, and they are doing this without B26 which means you probably drop to 3G deep indoors, and that can drag average speeds down quite a bit. So site location and density is of the upmost importance. Not to mention, its a sample of a market that mostly relies on midband/high band spectrum which will be the bread and butter of networks of the future.

[nexgencpu]

38 minutes ago, Terrell352 said:

As someone who lives right by a 15mhz b25 market I can tell you it's great. At Disney world it is more reliable than B41 in upload with speeds in the 15-25mbps range and matches it in download most of the time and that's without 4x4 mimo and 256qam.

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The true winner will be B25 as PCC + B41 as SCC CA. Best of both worlds.

[nexgencpu]

49 minutes ago, Terrell352 said:

I don't think it's a big deal for 2 reasons. The first reason is Sprint is barely faster and I would be willing to bet T-mobile still has much higher upload speeds so when rootmetrics comes out TMobile would still be faster. The second reason is Sprint has been fast in Seattle for years now. If they took a much worse market like Savannah GA, Charleston SC, New Orleans, Memphis ect and brought them to #1 or #2 then I would be impressed.

Also, has Sprint ever been fastest in Seattle?

[Terrell352]

Also, has Sprint ever been fastest in Seattle?

Technically they still are not. Until their upload and downloads are the fastest at least. They have the power to do so. With TD and FDD LTE CA and TD LTE uplink CA they can catch up. Sprint just needs to get to work at a much faster pace than they are going. 

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[though]

59 minutes ago, Terrell352 said:

I would be willing to bet T-mobile still has much higher upload speeds

I prefer = or HIGHER upload speeds myself...

[nexgencpu]

25 minutes ago, Terrell352 said:

Technically they still are not. Until their upload and downloads are the fastest at least. They have the power to do so. With TD and FDD LTE CA and TD LTE uplink CA they can catch up. Sprint just needs to get to work at a much faster pace than they are going. 

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I'm talking primarily about download speeds. Uploads speeds are not easily saturated in the real world, so nowhere near as important to the average user (believe me, if every user downloaded between 2-4mb it would rarely ever be an issue). Most poor upload issues arise from weak signal rather than capacity. So even 5Mhz slice of 1900 on the upload will help tremendously.  

The nice thing about having TDD+FDD is that they can continue to add capacity thru TDD and FDD can  stay the same to keep the upload speeds at a generally useful level , think 10x10 PCC, so about 20mb on the upload while the download continues to increase.

[JThorson]

45 minutes ago, nexgencpu said:

In my opinion Seattle is somewhat notable because its T-mobile's home turf, and they are doing this without B26 which means you probably drop to 3G deep indoors, and that can drag average speeds down quite a bit. So site location and density is of the upmost importance. Not to mention, its a sample of a market that mostly relies on midband/high band spectrum which will be the bread and butter of networks of the future.

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I have been seeing some B26 around here, though it is still sparse and not being played into this. Sprint has definitely become a stronger contender here in Seattle. I have friends who are on Verizon and they have some dead spots and I have signal. B26 will help a little but what will really help up here is 4x4 mimo.

[danlodish345]

1 hour ago, Tengen31 said:

I'm going on vacation this summer to mount Rushmore so I'll have to use att or vzw during that. I'm not sure on TMobile coverage yet. I don't have a band 71 capable phone and I also don't know if Sprint plans to support that band on there phones.

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Well either way I really would like to see Sprint improve their overall the native coverage. It would really be nice to see it happen. I do understand money is an issue. but you can't gain some without spending some. Obviously those results have been reflected in the root metrics report.

[clbowens]

This can't be good for future deployments:

 

https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=20445

[derrph]

8 minutes ago, clbowens said:

This can't be good for future deployments:

 

https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=20445

Did Sprint or Mobilitie get fined for something like this before a year or so ago?

[IamMrFamous07]

2 hours ago, clbowens said:

This can't be good for future deployments:

 

https://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=20445

I think they got fined because they illegally deployed small cells. Shouldn’t be a problem now. I haven’t read the article in full yet though

[JThorson]

Here we go again...

 

https://www.cnet.com/news/t-mobile-and-sprint-restart-merger-talks-again/

[though]

46 minutes ago, JThorson said:

Here we go again...

 

https://www.cnet.com/news/t-mobile-and-sprint-restart-merger-talks-again/

Thread for it: 

 

[Arysyn]

I just saw the merger retalk article here : 

https://www.tmonews.com/2018/04/t-mobile-sprint-merger-talks-once-again/

I know the pros and cons we all have talked about here, though regardless I firmly believe this merger is going to happen now. I didn't think it would be long before the talks resumed since the "supposed" end of them a few months ago. Its too good of a deal for them both.

As for me, I'm still with T-Mobile and am stuck with them based on the excellent pricing. Switching to AT&T or Verizon would be double the price. If T-Mobile and Sprint were to merge, considering my locked in deal, it would make switching no longer a consideration for any reason. Adding the excellent Chicago Sprint b41 network to T-Mobile here would make a network much better than AT&T and Verizon anyways.

[afazel]

I selfishly just want that B41 spectrum available to my T-Mobile S8. I've got good Sprint and T-Mobile coverage and speed where I live, work, and play so bring it on, please.

On the other hand, I like having 4 carriers, so don't do it.

[Terrell352]

I'm talking primarily about download speeds. Uploads speeds are not easily saturated in the real world, so nowhere near as important to the average user (believe me, if every user downloaded between 2-4mb it would rarely ever be an issue). Most poor upload issues arise from weak signal rather than capacity. So even 5Mhz slice of 1900 on the upload will help tremendously.  
The nice thing about having TDD+FDD is that they can continue to add capacity thru TDD and FDD can  stay the same to keep the upload speeds at a generally useful level , think 10x10 PCC, so about 20mb on the upload while the download continues to increase.

I wish I could agree but I just took a speed test of a band 25 10mhz tower but I won't post it do to da rulez. Here is the signal though readlly good signal. 0.51 down and 0.48 uplink and this is not the only tower. Trust me when I tell you upload needs to increase. I can literally see the tower across the street and had to use a hotspot to post this.

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[Tengen31]

I wish I could agree but I just took a speed test of a band 25 10mhz tower but I won't post it do to da rulez. Here is the signal though readlly good signal. 0.51 down and 0.48 uplink and this is not the only tower. Trust me when I tell you upload needs to increase. I can literally see the tower across the street and had to use a hotspot to post this.

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Higher qam on B25 upload will make it even better

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[RedSpark]

Congrats @Terrell352 on the Retweet by Dr. Saw!

https://twitter.com/Terrell352/status/983926676341043201

[Terrell352]

Congrats [mention=7240]Terrell352[/mention] on the Retweet by Dr. Saw!
https://twitter.com/Terrell352/status/983926676341043201

That tower does well most of the time but not this good so I had to post it. [emoji16] Now if we can get these other non b41 towers going.

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[RedSpark]

Congrats @nexgencpu on the retweet by Dr. Saw!

https://twitter.com/nexgencpu/status/984077102180954112

[Tengen31]

Congrats [mention=2547]nexgencpu[/mention] on the retweet by Dr. Saw!

https://twitter.com/nexgencpu/status/984077102180954112

Is that still 64 QAM?

 

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[tyroned3222]

Interesting idea

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