Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread

[Fraydog]

S. Ali.  Of course.

 

AJ

 

Speaking of entitlement, these people act as if 10 Mbps average is half the network when most people can't tell the difference. I bet they couldn't tell when T-Mobile's network is slowed to 10 Mbps unless they opened Ookla's Crutch, aka Speedtest.net. 

[Fraydog]

 

Of course T-Mobile is in the business to make money, but guess what, in the process they have forced the hand of rivals to offer more than they ever would have if Legere didn't change the rules of the game. This entire article is full of stupid, it almost sounds like it was written by Verizon themselves. The author should be ashamed for not mentioning anything about spectrum.

 

 

First off, even if T-Mobile got 700 MHz nationwide they'd still not have a circuit switched fallback in a whole lot of places. Funny how Mr. Ali neglects that point. He himself had to abandon T-Mobile and go back to Verizon because they had better coverage in his hometown of Pittsburgh, PA. Not exactly a place in the sticks. Fair enough that Verizon has eliminated their contracts, but guess what, they wanted to do that all along. I hold no grudge against T-Mobile making money but they might be better off just charging more and not tossing away gimmicks like Music Freedom and BingeOn. Sure T-Mobile's gaining a lot off AT&T and Sprint, but that has more to do with AT&T not acting like they care all that much about mobile anymore and Sprint, well, imploding. Is T-Mobile really gaining that much off Verizon? From the looks of it, the answer is NO. 

[Fraydog]

 

That's one of my biggest problems with T-Mobile, even trying to be unbiased. T-Mobile can create a halfway decent if not good data network with low-band in numerous places, but there's no low-band WCDMA/GSM for calling being I'd be the only person I know using T-Mobile. Some younger/nonstandard people don't call little if any, but for those that need to at all it's a deal breaker.

 

 

VoLTE has made a lot of progress, but I'm about to get my hands on a Verizon Note 5 and that's going to be a real big tell on how much improvement there is. Chester doesn't really have great coverage with anyone so if there's a test for VoLTE succeeding, I would be living in it. 

[Ryan43220]

Well, my sister and brother in law are going T-mobile -> Sprint.

 

So they are on the $100 for 2x 6GB lines and will be going to $50 at Sprint and also probably getting new phones at Sprint for less than their current PLAN total let alone what they pay at Tmobile for Plan + phones.

 

Crazy deal.

I wonder if the referral program works with the new plans?

 

https://promo.sprint.com/Registration/ReferralLanding?ECID=MA:SMS:MBL:20151110:RR:BAS

[Johnner1999]

I am not sure who is the bigger jackass -- John Legere or Mike Sievert.  Maybe they are having a contest.

 

Both Neville Ray and Kathleen Ham seem to stay above the fray.  Good for them.  I do wonder, though, about their work environment.  How do they feel working for two juvenile asshats?

 

AJ

 

 

I assume the majority are fine with the environment... the company is hiring and sales people are making money.   Where as some carriers will be laying off people (waiting for a new severance package to kick in though which gives less to the people)  So in short I suspect they are fine with it....  BUT who knows...

[MacinJosh]

I wonder if the referral program works with the new plans?

 

https://promo.sprint.com/Registration/ReferralLanding?ECID=MA:SMS:MBL:20151110:RR:BAS

 

I can't see why it won't. The program was extended to the end of the year, so it should be fine.

[cletus]

I wonder if the referral program works with the new plans?

 

https://promo.sprint.com/Registration/ReferralLanding?ECID=MA:SMS:MBL:20151110:RR:BAS

I'll definitely look into this when they go to switch over next week, Thanks!

[NYC126]

S. ALI has a Sprint line too, but on reddit and Howard forum he use the B1gEast alias. These magentans are so dumb that you can spot them a mile away. On the Sprint reddit he behave because the moderator would lay the hammer on him,  no so much at fierce. 

[RedSpark]

S. ALI has a Sprint line too, but on reddit and Howard forum he use the B1gEast alias. These magentans are so dumb that you can spot them a mile away. On the Sprint reddit he behave because the moderator would lay the hammer on him,  no so much at fierce.

 

How are you able to tell it's the same poster?

[Fraydog]

I assume the majority are fine with the environment... the company is hiring and sales people are making money. Where as some carriers will be laying off people (waiting for a new severance package to kick in though which gives less to the people) So in short I suspect they are fine with it.... BUT who knows...

I think if the CWA could gain a foothold there, it would end up being a really good thing not just for their workers but for the wireless workers of the US in general.

[NYC126]

How are you able to tell it's the same poster?

His style of writing of Sprint whining says it.

[Johnner1999]

The Verge: FCC chief praises T-Mobile’s Binge On despite net neutrality concerns. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwiNT-4CM

 

 

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[nexgencpu]

Looks like the device leasing funding has been sorted out...

 

 

http://www.wsj.com/articles/sprint-to-get-cash-infusion-with-deal-to-sell-and-lease-back-devices-1448028201

[Fraydog]

Off-topic a bit, but Fierce has a pretty good write up on the process Verizon used to create Go90. 

 

http://www.fiercewireless.com/special-reports/inside-creation-verizons-go90

[irev210]

As Sprint starts to get their network sorted out, I think they should really pivot into a new rate structure.

 

Similar to how T-Mobile restructured into Simple Choice I think Sprint needs to consolidate all plans.

 

Unlimited plan

• $50/Month Unlimited managed network
• Have unlimited depending on availability
• Basically, bingeon, radio on, etc but just in a managed sense of allowing sprint to completely control bandwidth depending on availability

 

Limited plan

• $10 per line monthly access
• $10 per gig
• No managed network

 

Sprint just needs to rip the marketing band-aid off.  Stop trying to be clever and come up with new lame plans.  Get a plan that existing legacy customers wont churn on and will be simple enough for new customers to be excited about.

 

Remove discounts, just offer one low price out of the gate.

 

Sprint doesn't have the management to pull off a radically new rate structure to evolve which is unfortunate because they are certainly building a world class network.

 

Keep it really really really simple.  $20/month "unlimited" is a scam and treats customers like idiots.  Sprint should and can do better.

[Ascertion]

As Sprint starts to get their network sorted out, I think they should really pivot into a new rate structure.

 

Unlimited plan

• $50/Month Unlimited managed network
• Have unlimited depending on availability
• Basically, bingeon, radio on, etc but just in a managed sense of allowing sprint to completely control bandwidth depending on availability

Keep it really really really simple.  $20/month "unlimited" is a scam and treats customers like idiots.  Sprint should and can do better.

It's sad.  The competition will have no other choice but to eventually match T-Mobile's BingeOn/Music Freedom offerings.  This means NN is pretty much screwed.  I can not tell you how often I've read "Well, you lose the unlimited videos/music if you switch to Sprint's cut your bill in half promo."  Customers are seeing value from the favoritism of providers and are shunning the competition that do not match it.  I can see Sprint doing this soon, honestly.  But it'll be a forced hand.

[Fraydog]

As Sprint starts to get their network sorted out, I think they should really pivot into a new rate structure.

 

Similar to how T-Mobile restructured into Simple Choice I think Sprint needs to consolidate all plans.

 

Unlimited plan

• $50/Month Unlimited managed network
• Have unlimited depending on availability
• Basically, bingeon, radio on, etc but just in a managed sense of allowing sprint to completely control bandwidth depending on availability

 

Limited plan

• $10 per line monthly access
• $10 per gig
• No managed network

 

Sprint just needs to rip the marketing band-aid off.  Stop trying to be clever and come up with new lame plans.  Get a plan that existing legacy customers wont churn on and will be simple enough for new customers to be excited about.

 

Remove discounts, just offer one low price out of the gate.

 

Sprint doesn't have the management to pull off a radically new rate structure to evolve which is unfortunate because they are certainly building a world class network.

 

Keep it really really really simple.  $20/month "unlimited" is a scam and treats customers like idiots.  Sprint should and can do better.

 

I don't know if the pricing is steep enough to get a quality network as Sprint needs to compete off that. My pricing would probably be more in line with Verizon's with an "all-you-can-eat" option on the top end. 

[irev210]

I don't know if the pricing is steep enough to get a quality network as Sprint needs to compete off that. My pricing would probably be more in line with Verizon's with an "all-you-can-eat" option on the top end. 

 

Wireless margins are HUGE.  Basically, the majority of costs are fairly fixed. Adding additional subs (particularly managed subs) are of little consequence to network resources, particularly with Sprint's cost per MB of data (will continue to go down).

 

If you charged the same as Verizon, nobody would switch from Verizon to Sprint.

 

• Sprint has a gross margin of 53.07%
• Lower ARPU by 20% under this new rate plan and say fine, my gross margins get smoked and go down to 25%
• Because of easier marketing/administration/cost cuts, etc, factor total EBITDA margin only goes from 21.83% to 10-15%
• At this point, sprint can start adding subs and cost of service goes down causing gross margin to go back up again
• Once churn reaches sub-1%, you can start actually increasing rates because customers love you so much

 

Bottom line, sprint needs to gain subscribers and charging the same as verizon and looking for 50%+ gross margins is not going to fly (in my humble opinion).  We talk about T-Mobile a lot here and they've been growing gross margins significantly, up almost 10% from 9/30/2014 (48.35%) to 9/30/2015 (57.15%).

[RedSpark]

Looks like the device leasing funding has been sorted out...

 

 

http://www.wsj.com/articles/sprint-to-get-cash-infusion-with-deal-to-sell-and-lease-back-devices-1448028201

Glad to hear this has been worked out.

 

More on this here: http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-releases/sprint-signs-12-billion-deal-for-the-sale-and-lease-back-of-certain-leased-devices-to-newly-formed-mobile-leasing-solutions-llc.htm

[RedSpark]

A couple personnel announcements as well:

 

Annette Jacobs Joins Sprint as President, Pacific Northwest Region

 

http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-releases/annette-jacobs-joins-sprint-as-president-pacific-northwest-region.htm

 

Jaime Jones Named Sprint Area President, South

 

http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-releases/jaime-jones-named-sprint-area-president-south.htm

[jasonsteele]

Tapatalk updated and injected ads into threads. Ugh.

 

 

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[S4GRU]

Tapatalk updated and injected ads into threads. Ugh.

 

 

 

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Inside threads?  Wow.  And we can't even upgrade to a better version for money anymore.

[derrph]

Welp looks like I won't be upgrading my app. I have the notification there there is an update available...I'm good.

 

 

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[MacinJosh]

Glad to hear this has been worked out.

 

More on this here: http://newsroom.sprint.com/news-releases/sprint-signs-12-billion-deal-for-the-sale-and-lease-back-of-certain-leased-devices-to-newly-formed-mobile-leasing-solutions-llc.htm

The question is, how does this affect us as customers leasing devices?

 

 

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[cletus]

The question is, how does this affect us as customers leasing devices?

 

 

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It does not affect customers. I am sure you will still send/receive devices from Sprint. The process of providing new phones to Sprint and receiving lease returns (after they are shipped to Sprint) will be handled by this new company but we, as customers, will interface with Sprint.