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B12/17, B4, B5/26, B2/25, B41 is going to be supported by devices of all RRPP members going forward soon. Members will deploy some mix of these depending on their spectrum resources and the ones they host using Sprint spectrum. Each provider will be a little different.

Thank you!  One more question.

Will there be LTE areas that'll have no CDMA (for example where Sprint doesn't have native coverage?)  I'm sure this'll matter less and less with VoLTE around the corner.

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For anyone that missed or didn't watch the whole video, here's the potential coverage map that was shown.  

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So Sprint is joining up with small rural operators to start a roaming hub.       The key parts about how this will work:       http://www.cnet.com/news/sprint-to-join-rural-operators-in-natio

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Thank you! One more question.

Will there be LTE areas that'll have no CDMA (for example where Sprint doesn't have native coverage?) I'm sure this'll matter less and less with VoLTE around the corner.

Yes there are. At least it appears there will be, as there are some partners who are data only providers and some that have no CDMA networks and likely never will. eCSFB becomes an issue and there are some technical hurdles. Sprint may be able to do a VoIP like solution on phones to use with partners who have no CDMA. And eventually VoLTE.

 

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Public Service Wireless (http://www.psdatawireless.com/) should at least help with some of the rural Georgia ex-Alltel areas, although interestingly enough they seem to be a data-only provider; they have no voice network at all, although they do offer VoIP over LTE.

 

They appear to currently be operating their service on 10x10 AWS (1710-1720/2110-2120), but they also have 6x6 700 (mostly 710-716/740-746, a couple on 704-710/734-740), in the following CMAs.

 

Both AWS and 700: 153 (Columbus, GA/Phenix City, AL), 261 (Albany, GA), 376 (Georgia 6/Spalding County - 12x12 700), 379 (Georgia 9/Marion County)

700-only markets: 139 (Montgomery, AL)

AWS-only markets: 138 (Macon/Warner Robins, GA), 314 (Alabama 8/Lee County), 375 (Georgia 5/Haralson County)

 

They also have EBS(!) in 17 west central Georgia counties, pretty much all rural (biggest city is probably Americus).

 

 

Is there a map of the area showing these markets? I'm curious on the Montgomery market...exactly how far north that may go.

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So it looks like Moto X model XT1092 (not officially announced for Sprint) supports all these bands, correct? Is this the first phone with full LTE band support for Sprint and all potential CCA partners?

 

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So it looks like Moto X model XT1092 (not officially announced for Sprint) supports all these bands, correct? Is this the first phone with full LTE band support for Sprint and all potential CCA partners?

The Nexus 5 is close, though it is missing band 12.
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Public Service Wireless (http://www.psdatawireless.com/) should at least help with some of the rural Georgia ex-Alltel areas, although interestingly enough they seem to be a data-only provider; they have no voice network at all, although they do offer VoIP over LTE.

 

Public Service Telephone was a full service wireless provider via its Public Service Cellular subsidiary until 2005, when it sold its wireless assets to Alltel.

 

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The Nexus 5 is close, though it is missing band 12.

I believe that the current iPhone 5c and 5s support many of the bands and actually lists some of the signed carriers on the supported LTE Network page that use the same Sprint models: https://www.apple.com/iphone/LTE/ Edited by AppleFanBoy
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Yes there are. At least it appears there will be, as there are some partners who are data only providers and some that have no CDMA networks and likely never will. eCSFB becomes an issue and there are some technical hurdles. Sprint may be able to do a VoIP like solution on phones to use with partners who have no CDMA. And eventually VoLTE.

 

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With VoLTE coming in early 2015, I imagine that's the long term solution. Until then they could always use the incumbent CDMA partner for voice then the CCA partner for data. (For example, Verizon CDMA voice with Comnet LTE).

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With VoLTE coming in early 2015, I imagine that's the long term solution. Until then they could always use the incumbent CDMA partner for voice then the CCA partner for data. (For example, Verizon CDMA voice with Comnet LTE).

No, unless circumstances have changed, dual network e/CSFB is not close to being ready. So, that will not work with current single RF path handsets.

 

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And iPhone 6 will probably be the 2nd.

 

Change that "probably" to "possibly."  Many of you guys seem quite sanguine that iPhone 6 will cover all of the bases this year.  However, historically, that has not been the case.  Especially in iPhone variants for Sprint, Apple has always left out something for next time -- or just left out forever.

 

Now, maybe you will get lucky this time.  You already lost out with the Category 4 MDM9625 baseband, losing any hope of band 41 carrier aggregation, so maybe that will be the only compromise.  But do not be surprised if band 41 misses the cut again.  Or the Sprint variant piggybacks off an international variant and gets band 8, band 20, or band 28 instead of band 12.

 

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According to a "source" the Sprint iPhone 6 is missing AWS LTE support. I'm not clear on which band they are referring to yet.

 

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I don't think the iPhone 6 will be missing AWS LTE because 3 carriers are using it. I would see it missing AWS 3, since the auction for it hasn't occurred yet. And I do think that the iPhone will be split into 2 models for the US market again, so hopefully Verizon AWS LTE will be included.

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I don't think the iPhone 6 will be missing AWS LTE because 3 carriers are using it. I would see it missing AWS 3, since the auction for it hasn't occurred yet. And I do think that the iPhone will be split into 2 models for the US market again, so hopefully Verizon AWS LTE will be included.

I couldn't care less about whether or not the Sprint variant of the iPhone 6 supports Verizon's AWS LTE. That's absolutely no use to me (as far as I know).

 

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I couldn't care less about whether or not the Sprint variant of the iPhone 6 supports Verizon's AWS LTE. That's absolutely no use to me (as far as I know).

 

-Anthony

I think one member of the RRPP uses AWS.

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As I am not familiar with the matter, how is AWS LTE split up, band wise? Is there only one AWS band, or are there multiple bands for AWS?

 

-Anthony

I know of AWS 1 and AWS 3. I'm not sure about AWS 2. AJ can answer that.

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I don't think the iPhone 6 will be missing AWS LTE because 3 carriers are using it. I would see it missing AWS 3, since the auction for it hasn't occurred yet. And I do think that the iPhone will be split into 2 models for the US market again, so hopefully Verizon AWS LTE will be included.

Apparently Sprint has a special version all their own. I can't verify that, nor do I totally trust this person, but they claim to be testing it for Sprint and Apple. They also claim Spark won't be supported off the bat, bit that's getting a bit off topic.

 

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Apparently Sprint has a special version all their own. I can't verify that, nor do I totally trust this person, but they claim to be testing it for Sprint and Apple. They also claim Spark won't be supported off the bat, bit that's getting a bit off topic.

 

Sent from my LG G3

 

So what does that mean? I thought spark just ment tri band. How could it not support it off the bat? Either it has the three bands or it doesn't.

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I know of AWS 1 and AWS 3. I'm not sure about AWS 2. AJ can answer that.

AWS-2 H block. It is technically not PCS.

 

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So what does that mean? I thought spark just ment tri band. How could it not support it off the bat? Either it has the three bands or it doesn't.

It means that Apple just tolerates Sprint, only partially accommodates Sprint. You should know that by now.

 

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