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WiWavelength Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 This is my hot thread. I do what I want. AJ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansltx Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 25+26 CA would be useful in more rural areas where B41 doesn't make sense quite yet, partially due to lack of density (which beamforming probably won't resolve). There will be plenty of areas within range of a single B25 carrier and a single B26 carrier, so CA would be quite handy, particularly with the new Netgear router that Sprint's launching now (assuming it supports CA). Gives the same effective 10x10 of spectrum that VZW uses for HomeFusion, so Sprint won't lag speed-wise in areas where B41 won't be for awhile. As probably noted already, the AT&T Unite hotspot supports CA. So that's where Big Blue is starting in Chi-town. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Kudo Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 25+26 CA would be useful in more rural areas where B41 doesn't make sense quite yet, partially due to lack of density (which beamforming probably won't resolve). There will be plenty of areas within range of a single B25 carrier and a single B26 carrier, so CA would be quite handy, particularly with the new Netgear router that Sprint's launching now (assuming it supports CA). Gives the same effective 10x10 of spectrum that VZW uses for HomeFusion, so Sprint won't lag speed-wise in areas where B41 won't be for awhile. As probably noted already, the AT&T Unite hotspot supports CA. So that's where Big Blue is starting in Chi-town. Only one of them does, the Unite Pro. The regular Unite does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Only one of them does, the Unite Pro. The regular Unite does not. What about the model for dyslexics? The Untie shotpot? Robert 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 What about the model for dyslexics? The Untie shotpot? I thought those people stayed up all night wondering if there is a dog. AJ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newyorker Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Only one of them does, the Unite Pro. The regular Unite does not. So the Sprint hotspots like the Netgear Zing doesn't support CA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Kudo Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 So the Sprint hotspots like the Netgear Zing doesn't support CA? Sadly, no. It would have been awesome if Sprint released the first TDD CA device, but it hasn't yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milan03 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I'm at the Chicago Intl Airport with spectrum analyzer, no signs of AWS in C block, nor Leap's D block. They also don't have B2 live either at this location... The only LTE presence AT&T has at this location is B17... Meanwhile Verizon is not joking around here... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashed Ixnay Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 134 down and 30 up?!? Holy moly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXLINE Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Not bad at all for a congested airport Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deval Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Not bad at all for a congested airport Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk That's just...crazy. I'm assuming you were on Verizon's AWS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowman82 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 This is from T-Mobile LTE-A im guessing 20x20? Sent from my LG-LS995 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milan03 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 That's just...crazy. I'm assuming you were on Verizon's AWS? Yeah Band 4, 20Mhz channel. Clearly, Carrier Aggregation is completely unnecessary for Verizon in Chicago. All contiguity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deval Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Yeah Band 4, 20Mhz channel. Clearly, Carrier Aggregation is completely unnecessary for Verizon in Chicago. All contiguity. So here is a question for you, how many of Verizon's existing devices can connect to that band? Or is it something that has to be forced on certain devices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynyrd65 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'm surprised no one's asked why not aggregate two band 25 carriers. That makes a lot of sense to me when band 41 is a ways off for some areas where the single g block carrier doesn't cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony.spina97 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'm surprised no one's asked why not aggregate two band 25 carriers. That makes a lot of sense to me when band 41 is a ways off for some areas where the single g block carrier doesn't cut it.I wouldn't neccesarily call Carrier Aggregation a capacity thing, as I see it more as an E-Penis thing. Frankly, if one carrier get's filled up, you push devices to the next carrier. Combining those two carriers together would, as far as I know, only make the numbers look better (Which, don't get me wrong, would be a good thing, considering the not-as-intelligent public that only sees numbers will think to themselve's "oh, they have bigger numbers, I'm gonna sign with them"). But back onto your idea. The only problem with your idea is that Sprint doesn't necessarily have enough spare spectrum everywhere to launch another Band 25 carrier, which means they are still stuck with one carrier. -Anthony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milan03 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 So here is a question for you, how many of Verizon's existing devices can connect to that band? Or is it something that has to be forced on certain devices? If you mean how many Verizon AWS capable smartphones are on the market, the answer is only a handful, and only two Cat 4. Note 3 and LG G2. That said about 25% of Verizon's LTE subscribers are using AWS capable device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illest_ios Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'm at the Chicago Intl Airport with spectrum analyzer, no signs of AWS in C block, nor Leap's D block. They also don't have B2 live either at this location... The only LTE presence AT&T has at this location is B17... Meanwhile Verizon is not joking around here... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illest_ios Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Talk about overkill lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted March 10, 2014 Author Share Posted March 10, 2014 That said about 25% of Verizon's LTE subscribers are using AWS capable device. Milan, what is the source of that stat? It may very well be accurate, but I find it hard to believe. If true, one quarter of VZW subs have upgraded in the past year and chosen AWS capable handsets. Seems a bit of a stretch -- especially for the somewhat stolid VZW crowd. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milan03 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Milan, what is the source of that stat? It may very well be accurate, but I find it hard to believe. If true, one quarter of VZW subs have upgraded in the past year and chosen AWS capable handsets. Seems a bit of a stretch -- especially for the somewhat stolid VZW crowd. AJ AJ, I stand corrected, and thanks for pointing out. As per Neville Ray's recent Morgan Stanley presser, he states that 10% of Verizon's LTE sub base can access AWS band with compatible handsets. Not 25%. Not sure what are his sources. http://investor.t-mobile.com/calendar.aspx?iid=4091145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdk Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'm surprised no one's asked why not aggregate two band 25 carriers. That makes a lot of sense to me when band 41 is a ways off for some areas where the single g block carrier doesn't cut it. I wouldn't neccesarily call Carrier Aggregation a capacity thing, as I see it more as an E-Penis thing. Frankly, if one carrier get's filled up, you push devices to the next carrier. Combining those two carriers together would, as far as I know, only make the numbers look better (Which, don't get me wrong, would be a good thing, considering the not-as-intelligent public that only sees numbers will think to themselve's "oh, they have bigger numbers, I'm gonna sign with them"). But back onto your idea. The only problem with your idea is that Sprint doesn't necessarily have enough spare spectrum everywhere to launch another Band 25 carrier, which means they are still stuck with one carrier. -Anthony Two band 25 carriers would make more sense than a band 25 and band 26 carrier (I am assuming you can't aggregate a FDD & TDD carrier as well). While Sprint might not have enough spectrum in every market, I would suggest they could do it in a majority of the them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'm surprised no one's asked why not aggregate two band 25 carriers. That makes a lot of sense to me when band 41 is a ways off for some areas where the single g block carrier doesn't cut it. This does make sense. When Sprint starts doing LTE-A advanced devices for B41 CA, they should also include CA for B25 too. Right now, it would only be useful in a couple of places in Shentel land. However, there likely will be more this year. And anywhere there are two B25 carriers, why not use both carriers in aggregate? It would probably require an LTE version upgrade too. But they should plan for it and just do it. Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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