Jump to content
mrknowitall526

Netgear 4G LTE Router Gateway/New Plans

Recommended Posts

I've had the new router for a week.  Where I keep it, LTE Signal strength averages between -103 and -106 RSRP on band 25 (shows one bar on the signal strength indicator), and I'm averaging between 6.5 and 10 Mbps.  Have not dropped signal even once.  Very satisfied with speed and performance considering conditions, and I cannot complain.  Being a tri-band device, I can only see it getting even better once the build out is complete in my area and I can see what it is really capable of.

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've had the new router for a week.  Where I keep it, LTE Signal strength averages between -103 and -106 RSRP on band 25 (shows one bar on the signal strength indicator), and I'm averaging between 6.5 and 10 Mbps.  Have not dropped signal even once.  Very satisfied with speed and performance considering conditions, and I cannot complain.  Being a tri-band device, I can only see it getting even better once the build out is complete in my area and I can see what it is really capable of.

 

How does the signal strength of the router compare with your phones at the same location?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Can someone please get me the FCC ID number off their Netgear 4G LTE Router? Thanks!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How does the signal strength of the router compare with your phones at the same location?

I live in between two towers, the one closest to me has no NV work done and the other one further away is NV complete and broadcasting band 25.  My phone picks up LTE from the tower further away once in a blue moon, but most of the time is latched onto the closer no NV tower. My router has a constant connection to band 25 on the more distant tower.

 

 

Can someone please get me the FCC ID number off their Netgear 4G LTE Router? Thanks!

 

The FCC ID on the router is PY313200235.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I live in between two towers, the one closest to me has no NV work done and the other one further away is NV complete and broadcasting band 25. My phone picks up LTE from the tower further away once in a blue moon, but most of the time is latched onto the closer no NV tower. My router has a constant connection to band 25 on the more distant tower.

 

 

 

The FCC ID on the router is PY313200235.

Thanks!

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5S using Tapatalk 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ALERT: I received a letter in the mail from Sprint thanking me for being a loyal customer and notifying me of my new 2 yr. contract on the gateway with a $200 ETF.  On the website, the only option is to purchase for $199 outright with no contract...which is what I thought that I had signed up for.  Obviously they had made a mistake, I called customer service and a very pleasant person named Ruby was able to correct the situation with help from a supervisor.  She said it was a glitch and was surprised that it happened.  All is good now :tu:

I am not using this gateway as my primary ISP, as I do not want to be a bandwidth abuser.  I merely purchased the gateway and the service because I am a Sprint junkie and wanted to experience tri-band in all its glory without having to ditch my iPhone to do so.  Good times ahead...

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ALERT: I received a letter in the mail from Sprint thanking me for being a loyal customer and notifying me of my new 2 yr. contract on the gateway with a $200 ETF. On the website, the only option is to purchase for $199 outright with no contract...which is what I thought that I had signed up for. Obviously they had made a mistake, I called customer service and a very pleasant person named Ruby was able to correct the situation with help from a supervisor. She said it was a glitch and was surprised that it happened. All is good now :tu:

I am not using this gateway as my primary ISP, as I do not want to be a bandwidth abuser. I merely purchased the gateway and the service because I am a Sprint junkie and wanted to experience tri-band in all its glory without having to ditch my iPhone to do so. Good times ahead...

Thanks for the update. I'm sure if anyone else has the same thing happen, we'd have jumped out of our skins.

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5S using Tapatalk 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

$199 for router; $79/mo (30 gb)  +$50 activation; on the surface it seems like a better deal

data wise than getting the Zing with a Peplink 4G router (which I have); but then you can put the Zing

in your pocket when a Starbucks need arises..does this new router have a much better RF

radio than the Zing?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

$199 for router; $79/mo (30 gb) +$50 activation; on the surface it seems like a better deal

data wise than getting the Zing with a Peplink 4G router (which I have); but then you can put the Zing

in your pocket when a Starbucks need arises..does this new router have a much better RF

radio than the Zing?

Good question. I'll have to do some research when I have the time and compare the 2. Do you have the FCC ID for the zing so I can look it up easier?

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5S using Tapatalk 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

$199 for router; $79/mo (30 gb)  +$50 activation; on the surface it seems like a better deal

data wise than getting the Zing with a Peplink 4G router (which I have); but then you can put the Zing

in your pocket when a Starbucks need arises..does this new router have a much better RF

radio than the Zing?

 

If you could find a Zing on e-bay or somewhere so you don't have to get it on contract, you could do the same thing with the Zing.  I've been looking around a bit and thinking this might be the better option.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

$199 for router; $79/mo (30 gb)  +$50 activation; on the surface it seems like a better deal

data wise than getting the Zing with a Peplink 4G router (which I have); but then you can put the Zing

in your pocket when a Starbucks need arises..does this new router have a much better RF

radio than the Zing?

Last I heard, the 30 gig plan was $109....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Last I heard, the 30 gig plan was $109....

 

They are using an mnvo not sprint for the service.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I guess since this device, that Washington state company will have a lot more business

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok. I finally looked at the FCC docs for the Gateway. And they did it this way. It's a router utilizing a wireless module using a different FCC ID. That's why I never discovered this device until after Sprint announced it. :scratch: Talk about secrecy.

 

Anyway, the Max Conducted power is 23.49 dBm for Band 41 with an Antenna Gain of 9.5 dBi. Band 25 is 24.76 dBm with Antenna Gain of 8 dBi, and Band 26 is 24.92 dBm with Antenna Gain of 7.9 dBi.

 

CDMA side of things is:

 

Band Class 1 (PCS) 24.76 dBm average

Band Class 10 (SMR) 24.84 dBm average

Band Class 0 (Cellular) 24.69 dBm average (based on 1xRTT roaming)

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, if I'm interpreting your numbers correctly, 8 db gain for Band 25 (the most prevalent band currently) in a fringe or

edge area like my house might succeed in connecting to a faint LTE signal....no?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, if I'm interpreting your numbers correctly, 8 db gain for Band 25 (the most prevalent band currently) in a fringe or

edge area like my house might succeed in connecting to a faint LTE signal....no?

 

I'm not sure. I don't really know how antenna gain works. But I would think so. I'm not thrilled about the max conducted power on the LTE modem. It's kinda limiting if you ask me, but if antenna gain helps a lot, then it counteracts mediocre RF.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How do these numbers compare to my Zing?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How do these numbers compare to my Zing?

I need the FCC ID of the Zing so I can look it up. I always forget to write things down like that.

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5S using Tapatalk 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanx..Josh...if you find the Zing ID let us know..otherwise back-burner it..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Zing performance

 

Average Conducted:         Antenna Gain:

Band 25-   23.5 dBm             3 dBi

Band 26-   23.5 dBm             5 dBi

Band 41-   23.5 dBm             5 dBi

 

CDMA BC0 - 23.5 dBm         5 dBi

CDMA BC1 - 23.5 dBm         3 dBi

CDMA BC10- 23.5 dBm        5 dBi

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So basically we're looking at a 4.5db gain difference on B41, 6db on B25 and 3db on B26. Plus slightly more Tx power on lower bands. Nothing phenomenally impressive, but enough to bump modulation up a tier in middling reception areas, and definitely the difference between zero service and passable (but not great) in fringe areas, at least for B25 and B41.

 

One thing that these specs don't show offhand is the receive sensitivity for a given modulation type for the devices. Having more room to work with in the desktop router could allow for more sensitive electronics, holding onto a better modulation at a given RSRP. This is independent of the antenna gain difference that I just mentioned.

 

Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but hopefully Sprint increases the data allotments on its $50 and $80 tiers as they get more B41 coverage. Compared to VZW HomeFusion, (which works on 700MHz so it's not like they have tons of spectrum to play with) Sprint's 30GB plan is $10 cheaper per month for the same data allotment. But its other plans are $10 cheaper for 40% less data. Granted, Sprint isn't differentiating price-wise between the home router and its mobile hotspots with these plans right now, so that's part of it, but they probably should.

 

If they're holding out for a T-Mobile merger to become competitive here (if the home router silently packs AWS LTE I wouldn't be that taken aback) then that's kind of a shame...unless they're going to really leave VZW and AT&T's LTE home broadband products in the dust with newer plans (remember that Sprint + T-Mobile would be able to drop 10x10 LTE on PCS in a fair number of places, in addition to 5x5 in PCS G and H+/CDMA...that's why I didn't say B4-only or B41-only).

 

At the risk of going to far afield, unlimited home LTE service isn't out of the question in areas where wireline isn't available. It'd have to be speed-capped of course...my parents' latest ISP sells 4M down, 1M up...but that ISP has made the conscious decision to not use LTE in their 700-lower-B (5x5) license for mobile traffic, and as a result they can keep everyone at a better link budget and have closer to the theoretical capacity on the cell. Which lets them offer unlimited LTE with not much spectrum. *shrugs*

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

...if the home router silently packs AWS LTE I wouldn't be that taken aback...

They wwan module built into the home router doesn't contain AWS LTE, unfortunately. :( at least, not from what was on the FCC docs.

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5S using Tapatalk 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They wwan module built into the home router doesn't contain AWS LTE, unfortunately. :( at least, not from what was on the FCC docs.

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5S using Tapatalk 2

 

I still hold out hope. Remember that the Nexus 4 wasn't FCC cert'd for LTE in band 4 either (then again, it never got re-cert'd).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I still hold out hope. Remember that the Nexus 4 wasn't FCC cert'd for LTE in band 4 either (then again, it never got re-cert'd).

Based on the module, it looks to be changeable in the factory if they didn't solder it to the home router board, so that's the other option for it.

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 5S using Tapatalk 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I just purchased one on Saturday. I am looking for a backup to our T1's in a remote office location that has no other option for a data connection. I installed today and before pluging it into our network router I was logged into the interface of the Netgear LTE router some how it used 25 MB of data, not sure if there was some setting that it needed to pickup from Sprint but I thought this to be a bit extreme.

 

After the install I set as our main data route for about an hour to see how it would handle. With 1 bar of service on the Netgear and 3 bars on my Galaxy S3, my data speed seemed good and similar. I was around 6 meg up and down. I only used about 40 meg in an hour with about 28 PC's and 8 servers. It handled the traffic with no problem. I don't want to run the company on this connection just wanted to check how it would perform for us. I have since set it to load balance for the next two day and then I will have it sit until our main connection goes down. (Easy monthly money for Sprint).

 

I have been over this router top to bottom for settings and configurations. If anyone has questions I will be more than happy to answer.

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Posts

    • Yes the site at the Mountlake exit off 520 broadcasts 5 L2500 carriers. Many sites in the area do nowadays. The B12 is T-Mobile/AT&T roaming. If it's displaying as Sprint, it's T-Mobile roaming and it's unlimited and unthrottled. 
    • Saw a 5 carrier B41 on the 520 by UW. Also, have noticed B12 showing up on my phone as Sprint. Sent from my LG-LS998 using Tapatalk
    • This is a follow-up to my posts of Sept 7 and Sept 20. Well, things haven't worked too well with the Sprint MiFi8000.  After a promising start, things degraded quickly and I started to experience the spontaneous reboot problem that Sprint MiFi 8000 and Verizon MiFi 8800L users have reported.  Originally I thought that it was related to the signal level -- but in the end I decided it was some thermal issue.  The units do get warm...  So I sent my 4 MiFi 8000 units back to Sprint. And I was never happy with the Peplink/Pepwave Max On-The-Go (OTG) unit.  I had several problems with it and the support folks weren't very supportive.       So I bought a second HTC 5G hub (now I have two).  Attached is a photo of the two units.  I got my old Cradlepoint COR-IBR1700 out of the closet and am presently using its load balancing capability.  The 1700 has 5 ethernet ports; 4 of which can be assigned as WAN or LAN and the 5th is set to WAN.  So I set those as 1 LAN and 4 WAN ports -- the LAN port ties into my house ethernet, and two of those WAN ports go to the ethernet ports on the back of each HTC 5G hub.  But the 1700 seems to be in Round-Robin mode even though I have it set to Device Usage mode (balanced usage) -- well, it clearly isn't doing that.  The one on the right is 75.51 GB while the one on the left is 116 MB. At this point I've been very happy with this setup and the internet has worked continually for the past 3 weeks since I brought this system up.  No spontaneous reboots (e.g. MiFi 8000), no blank web-interface screens (e.g. Peplink MAX OTG), and no internet dropouts.  Scott  
    • When will Wi-Fi backhaul be enabled for the magic box? Mine is not connecting. 
  • Recently Browsing

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...