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How to Spot Clearwire TDD-LTE / Wimax Antennas & RRUs (Samsung)

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Looks just like the panels vzw uses in most of michigan(excluding the old alltel areas) for evdo and 1x on 850. 

 

Could possibly be metro. I doubt its clearwire.

The panels I'm trying to ID are these:

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I apologize for off topic.

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The panels I'm trying to ID are these:

 

 

 

I apologize for off topic.

Those were what I was referring to, sorry for the confusion.

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So, is the official consensus that Samsung that is going to deploy the TD-LTE RRUs for Alcatel-Lucent markets?

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Saw another TD-LTE base station in Bellefontaine Neighbors, MO.

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Saw another TD-LTE base station in Bellefontaine Neighbors, MO.

 

TD-LTE and WiMax base stations look the same.  They are not switching out the WiMax base cabinets.  They can LTE to them just fine.

 

Robert

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TD-LTE and WiMax base stations look the same.  They are not switching out the WiMax base cabinets.  They can LTE to them just fine.

 

Robert

Oh i didnt know that

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Can I get an expert opinion on this Clearwire(maybe) site.

 

It is in Osseo, MN and about 1.5 weeks ago I spotted some workers up on what I believe is the Clearwire rack.

Can any of you experts help identify if these are the new Dual Mode rru's?

 

I apologize for the lack of detail in the pictures, my camcorder has an amazing zoom but doesn't take greatly detailed pictures.

 

I hope this works, I have never uploaded pictures before. :)

 

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Can I get an expert opinion on this Clearwire(maybe) site.

 

It is in Osseo, MN and about 1.5 weeks ago I spotted some workers up on what I believe is the Clearwire rack.

Can any of you experts help identify if these are the new Dual Mode rru's?

 

I apologize for the lack of detail in the pictures, my camcorder has an amazing zoom but doesn't take greatly detailed pictures.

 

I hope this works, I have never uploaded pictures before. :)

 

 

 

Yep.

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Yep.

So to verify, you are saying that these are td-lte and wimax rtus. If so that is great because this site is really close to my work. I pull a - 76 dbm signal on wimax from this site at my desk.

 

Now bring on the triband phones since I am upgrade eligible. :-)

 

 

 

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So to verify, you are saying that these are td-lte and wimax rtus. If so that is great because this site is really close to my work. I pull a - 76 dbm signal on wimax from this site at my desk.

 

Now bring on the triband phones since I am upgrade eligible. :-)

 

 

 

Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 4

 

Yep. You can not mistake the new Samsung dual mode TD-LTE RRUs unless they're in close proximity with Samsung network vision equipment.

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Here is another site with the mysterious panel (on the right) and what appears to be ClearWire's 2.6Ghz band antenna. I'm guessing WiMax? 

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Here is another site with the mysterious panel (on the right) and what appears to be ClearWire's 2.6Ghz band antenna. I'm guessing WiMax? 

 

 

Most likely. Interesting RF filter they have on that one. 

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What's going on with this site? (pics taken Oct 19th) There was a week where I was only getting -113 to -125dBm and my phone was heating up, in contrast with the usual -90 to -100 dBm. Now it's a nicer -80 to -90dBm.

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I know these pics are not the greatest but I was wondering if anyone would be able tell if this site has been upgraded?Posted ImagePosted Image

 

 

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Looks like a ground mount site for Network Vision, but it doesn't look like TD-LTE antennas on any of the antenna racks. 

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Goodby Huawei. Hello Samsung? http://imgur.com/a/XBJpw

I think you are right, only Samsung and Huawei has 4 ports from the Radio Unit.  What market is this?

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Goodby Huawei. Hello Samsung? http://imgur.com/a/XBJpw

 

Protection or co located site?

 

Where was this taken?  Those look like PCS only wide beam NV panels, and not Band 41 only panels.  I say that because Band 41 should only have one RRU per panel.  Whereas a Samsung high capacity site can have two panels per sector with two RRU's per panel.

 

Robert

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Sorry that was my crap browser not operating the quote button correctly, I was asking the same where, what, and how from a couple posts up.

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Where was this taken?  Those look like PCS only wide beam NV panels, and not Band 41 only panels.  I say that because Band 41 should only have one RRU per panel.  Whereas a Samsung high capacity site can have two panels per sector with two RRU's per panel.

 

Robert

 

I'm guessing it's a high capacity site, it has a very good vantage point  to a very large area.  It's not broadcasting Sprint PCS according to the site maps. When I lived in that area and took the pictures, my Sprint signal strength was bad enough to need an Airrave to hold calls.

 

https://www.google.com/maps?q=29.526259,-98.323048&num=1&t=h&z=19

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Where was this taken? Those look like PCS only wide beam NV panels, and not Band 41 only panels. I say that because Band 41 should only have one RRU per panel. Whereas a Samsung high capacity site can have two panels per sector with two RRU's per panel.

 

Robert

That's Clearwire with legacy Samsung Wimax rru. You can see it in some of the pics if you zoom in. It's a very thin rru.

 

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

 

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That's Clearwire with legacy Samsung Wimax rru. You can see it in some of the pics if you zoom in. It's a very thin rru.

 

Sent from my Nexus 5

That's why I wanted to know where it was at. So I could rule out it being a Samsung NV area.

 

Robert via Samsung Note 8.0 using Tapatalk Pro

 

 

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I'm guessing it's a high capacity site, it has a very good vantage point  to a very large area.  It's not broadcasting Sprint PCS according to the site maps. When I lived in that area and took the pictures, my Sprint signal strength was bad enough to need an Airrave to hold calls.

 

https://www.google.com/maps?q=29.526259,-98.323048&num=1&t=h&z=19

TX is a samsung and Mot market.  Given it's a 4 ports radio unit, it should be Samsung updating it's RRU or some other reasons.  The replacement site has a longer antenna which means it's a PCS band antenna.

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I live out in the country.  15 miles east of the nearest decent size city that has a population of about 37,000 (Richmond, Indiana).  I didn't think Sprint was adding Band 41 to rural areas that weren't densely populated.  However, last week I saw a rope hanging from CI33-----C050.  It was getting dark so I could not see the antennas very well.  Today, I took my new DSLR camera with me and the top image below is what I observed.  The antenna on the right has been there since July 2013.  The wider antenna on the left is new.
 
The bottom image is what it looked like in July 2013 after NV antenna was added, but before legacy was removed.
 
In addition, this week, I spoke to and verified a contractor for Time Warner has been running new fiber to the tower for Sprint.
 
So, am I correct in thinking this is new addition is a Band 41 antenna on this tower? (Band 25 & 26 run through the same antenna, and B41 requires an additional antenna, correct?)

 

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