Guest tuwsy Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Oh man, I knew this was true and it's still heartbreaking. Is cable included in "FTTH"? Comcast's 105mbps qualifies as "crazy fast enough" for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geesmill Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Is cable included in "FTTH"? Comcast's 105mbps qualifies as "crazy fast enough" for me. I believe Comcast is fiber to the node and then goes coax to the premise. DOCSIS 3.0 use of channel bonding allows for higher speeds. This is the reason the MSO's want to get rid of basic analog service and move users over to digital services so they can use their assets to offer higher speeds and capacities on their systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tuwsy Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I believe Comcast is fiber to the node and then goes coax to the premise. DOCSIS 3.0 use of channel bonding allows for higher speeds. This is the reason the MSO's want to get rid of basic analog service and move users over to digital services so they can use their assets to offer higher speeds and capacities on their systems.I know. I was implying that DOCSIS 3.0 is "good enough 'fiber'l. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I know. I was implying that DOCSIS 3.0 is "good enough 'fiber'l. Oh please! I can beat DOCSIS with wireless Real FTTH is around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Oh please! I can beat DOCSIS with wireless Real FTTH is around the corner. Could you explain that? Are you talking about your wireless stuff or actual FTTH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Could you explain that? Are you talking about your wireless stuff or actual FTTH? I can beat the performance of DOCSIS 3.0 equipment with fixed wireless. actual FTTH is 10x + faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I can beat the performance of DOCSIS 3.0 equipment with fixed wireless. actual FTTH is 10x + faster. Well yeah that makes sense because isn't fixed LTE supposed to be capable of 1 Gbps? Also I meant your comment about FTTH being around the corner (hence why I bolded it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Well yeah that makes sense because isn't fixed LTE supposed to be capable of 1 Gbps? Also I meant your comment about FTTH being around the corner (hence why I bolded it). I have 2 mass deployment FTTH methods to test this year. One of them is going to get picked. Wireless speeds are capable of Gbps rates if you have the spectrum to do so. My initial deployments will probably be between 80-140mbps. I should note however that even in 2 separate 20mhz TDD channels a heavy load will still drop the speeds for everyone on the sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 I have 2 mass deployment FTTH methods to test this year. One of them is going to get picked. Wireless speeds are capable of Gbps rates if you have the spectrum to do so. My initial deployments will probably be between 80-140mbps. Both those things are exciting. FTTH will be great for urban areas and fixed wireless could solve a lot of poor rural speed problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Both those things are exciting. FTTH will be great for urban areas and fixed wireless could solve a lot of poor rural speed problems. Well without spilling all the beans, everyone will have the option to receive FTTH eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Well without spilling all the beans, everyone will have the option to receive FTTH eventually Oh man, that would be so cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhammett Posted August 18, 2013 Author Share Posted August 18, 2013 It is a lot easier to split nodes in a FTTH deployment than fixed wireless. If we had a big piece of spectrum south of 5 GHz, we could compete a lot better with cable. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 It is a lot easier to split nodes in a FTTH deployment than fixed wireless. If we had a big piece of spectrum south of 5 GHz, we could compete a lot better with cable. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Do you have any 3GHZ licenses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhammett Posted August 18, 2013 Author Share Posted August 18, 2013 I have no exclusive licenses, only one for radio service NN. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobilesolutions Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Everyone. I can guarantee where I live that will never happen the road I live on is 2.5 mile's long with 3 house's and i'm at the far end the phone line on this road was put in around 1945. It may not be anytime soon. One day though the fiber infrastructure will be available to EVERYBODY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhammett Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Everyone. I can guarantee where I live that will never happen the road I live on is 2.5 mile's long with 3 house's and i'm at the far end the phone line on this road was put in around 1945. Heck fixed wireless all around me,none that will penetrate the wood's I live in. 700mhz has got me some service 850mhz to a point that is with external antenna and amp but anything higher is a no go. Then come's next year amp's will all be outlawed I will be shit out of luck.Build a tower above the trees. ;-) Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I am bit confused about this Sprint wireline talk. Does this mean that Sprint will upgrade its Sprintlink network to be fiber based nationwide? If so, does this have any impact on Sprint's wireless services in providing backhaul to Sprint towers in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsnake49 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I am bit confused about this Sprint wireline talk. Does this mean that Sprint will upgrade its Sprintlink network to be fiber based nationwide? If so, does this have any impact on Sprint's wireless services in providing backhaul to Sprint towers in the future? Sprintlink has been fiber for a little while, but Sprintlink is just a backbone network. Backhaul is the link between the site and the backbone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Sprintlink has been fiber for a little while, but Sprintlink is just a backbone network. Backhaul is the link between the site and the backbone. I see. Thanks for the clarification. Would it be extremely tough for Sprint to spend the capital to eventually expand Sprintlink to provide backhaul capabiltiies. I assume Verizon and ATT are backbone and backhaul providers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I see. Thanks for the clarification. Would it be extremely tough for Sprint to spend the capital to eventually expand Sprintlink to provide backhaul capabiltiies. I assume Verizon and ATT are backbone and backhaul providers? Depends on the area. I know CenturyLink is one of the main ones and I they also will use more local providers sometimes, like in Iowa they use MediaCom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhammett Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Sprint was one of the first fiber networks. It is completely unnecessary for them to build all of their own backhaul and very expensive too. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickel Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Sprint was one of the first fiber networks. It is completely unnecessary for them to build all of their own backhaul and very expensive too. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Do you know why some areas have such a hard time getting backhaul? Is Sprint just very low on some list or does it take a long time to set everything up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhammett Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Depending on the ILEC is never a good idea. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deval Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Do you know why some areas have such a hard time getting backhaul? Is Sprint just very low on some list or does it take a long time to set everything up? Getting circuits delivered is always a challenge, and having them properly handoff traffic is key. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhammett Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Getting circuits delivered is always a challenge, and having them properly handoff traffic is key.The backhaul is completely neutral to what rides on top of it. Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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