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Here's what I would like to know: In rural areas where high band spectrum is used I.e 1900mhz, what percentage of area covered can be increased by increasing the power level or the RRU's? I know it won't be anywhere near what SMR will travel, but how much can it be increased with NV and power increase?

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Here's what I would like to know: In rural areas where high band spectrum is used I.e 1900mhz, what percentage of area covered can be increased by increasing the power level or the RRU's? I know it won't be anywhere near what SMR will travel, but how much can it be increased with NV and power increase?

 

Increasing power at the base station may not have any appreciable effect because mobiles are generally quite power limited. And without uplink reception at the cell site, downlink reception at the mobile is worthless.

 

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Here's what I would like to know: In rural areas where high band spectrum is used I.e 1900mhz, what percentage of area covered can be increased by increasing the power level or the RRU's? I know it won't be anywhere near what SMR will travel, but how much can it be increased with NV and power increase?

 

Here is my experience. It may not be typical. I got a boost in service that was much more than I expected.

I am 3 miles from the cell site. The cell site is on elevated ground. In the winter when there are no leaves on the trees, I can actually see the cell site with binoculars. A garage is attached to my home and it is in-between the cell site and my normal work area in my home.

 

BEFORE network vision - I had a -103 level and if I moved around, the signal would drop to -105. At -105, the call was gone.

AFTER network vision - I have a -98 and it is steady. No lost call ever. And I have LTE with a 10 meg download speed.

 

This is much better than I expected. Maybe the new antennas are better?? Maybe they are aimed better?? Maybe the old radios at the cell site were not putting out full power??? Who knows.

Concerning the signal going the other direction - Again, maybe a better antenna at the cell site is helping. Having the RRU's beside the antennas helps too. The RRU can capture the incoming signal without having any loss between the antenna and the RRU. Before network vision, the antenna captured the incoming signal but there was loss in the cable going down to the radios in the ground mounted cabinet.

 

I had a very good experience. However, your experience mighty be different. Distance from the cell site matters. Height of the cell site and the aiming of the antennas matters. Construction of your home matters(Brick, Block, Stone, low E windows, aluminum siding all tend to be a signal killer.)

Heavy trees, hills & other homes or businesses that block the signal between the cell site and your home matter.

I have quite a few cell sites in the area that are upgraded. I see improvements everywhere.

It can be very dangerous to predict just what you will experience. You will see some improvement, but it may only be minimal at best. 800 SMR is going to fix even more issues but I have not experienced that yet.

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Here is my experience. It may not be typical. I got a boost in service that was much more than I expected.

I am 3 miles from the cell site. The cell site is on elevated ground. In the winter when there are no leaves on the trees, I can actually see the cell site with binoculars. A garage is attached to my home and it is in-between the cell site and my normal work area in my home.

 

BEFORE network vision - I had a -103 level and if I moved around, the signal would drop to -105. At -105, the call was gone.

AFTER network vision - I have a -98 and it is steady. No lost call ever. And I have LTE with a 10 meg download speed.

 

This is much better than I expected. Maybe the new antennas are better?? Maybe they are aimed better?? Maybe the old radios at the cell site were not putting out full power??? Who knows.

Concerning the signal going the other direction - Again, maybe a better antenna at the cell site is helping. Having the RRU's beside the antennas helps too. The RRU can capture the incoming signal without having any loss between the antenna and the RRU. Before network vision, the antenna captured the incoming signal but there was loss in the cable going down to the radios in the ground mounted cabinet.

 

I had a very good experience. However, your experience mighty be different. Distance from the cell site matters. Height of the cell site and the aiming of the antennas matters. Construction of your home matters(Brick, Block, Stone, low E windows, aluminum siding all tend to be a signal killer.)

Heavy trees, hills & other homes or businesses that block the signal between the cell site and your home matter.

I have quite a few cell sites in the area that are upgraded. I see improvements everywhere.

It can be very dangerous to predict just what you will experience. You will see some improvement, but it may only be minimal at best. 800 SMR is going to fix even more issues but I have not experienced that yet.

 

It could be a mix of everything you said, but your post is what I would like to see mirrored across the country. That experience is what Sprint is striving for.

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BEFORE network vision - I had a -103 level and if I moved around, the signal would drop to -105. At -105, the call was gone.

AFTER network vision - I have a -98 and it is steady. No lost call ever. And I have LTE with a 10 meg download speed.

 

 

That is what I am hoping for. My hope is for timely texting and stable voice. Data would be cool, but I will use wifi anyway.

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That is what I am hoping for. My hope is for timely texting and stable voice. Data would be cool, but I will use wifi anyway.

Don't get your hopes up for timely texts. All towers around my house are upgraded and I get delays

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