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The Boogah King small cell is now live and boy what a difference in coverage and speeds it is.  From barely 1-2 mbps on B25 / 26 at -110s range to 20-30s on B41 in the -80s to 100s range. 

 

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Side note to all the folks around -- stay safe and wear those N95 masks! 

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Found 3 more Sprint Airspan small cells (Florin/Freeport, downtown, & loaves and fishes area) and the first noted Clearwire 2.5 conversion to Sprint triband 800/1.9/2.5 in Elk Grove!

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[[[[[[nimbyism intensifies]]]]]]]

 

I rather not get into the politics of cell sites and health but a significant number of cell sites in the very flat central valley colocated on school grounds due to the presence of available structures like stadium lights or land available to build something inconspicuous like a flag pole.

 

A lot of sites are cleverly hidden out in the wild and most people won't notice them unless lookin for something to blame.

 

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Sure it's not just the water? Or radon? Lol we live amongst cell towers. Can't wait for the push to have them all removed due to health concerns. Then everyone complains that they can no longer access Facebook oh Californians

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NIMBY people piss me off.  But I will say that I really did feel strange when I took pics of the last mimo antenna in the PHX thread.  I dunno if I'm extra sensitive or because the tower is only 40-50 feet high. But I personally notice a different feeling.  

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17 hours ago, lilotimz said:

[[[[[[nimbyism intensifies]]]]]]]

 

I rather not get into the politics of cell sites and health but a significant number of cell sites in the very flat central valley colocated on school grounds due to the presence of available structures like stadium lights or land available to build something inconspicuous like a flag pole.

 

A lot of sites are cleverly hidden out in the wild and most people won't notice them unless lookin for something to blame.

 

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I agree with you.

What’s a feasible alternative for this site?

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4 hours ago, RedSpark said:

I agree with you.

What’s a feasible alternative for this site?

Make it look like a native tree species rather than a flagpole site. 

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I've made a discovery about my home's network setup and would appreciate some advice.

Using my new Cradlepoint COR-IBR1700 for connection to the internet via a cellular connection, the local ethernet port on the IBR1700 can be set.  The factory default has it on AUTO, which  it reports running at 10Mbps.  That speed was horrible.  My house is wired for gigabit and all of my switches are gigabit. So I manually set the IBR1700 to 1000, which also necessitated full-duplex (since there is no such thing as 1000 half-duplex).  That speed was also horrible also. 

So then I set the IBR1700's ethernet port to 100 half-duplex, and now I get 30 Mbps from  speedtest.net  and  fast.com    Changing to 100 full-duplex drops back down to 1 Mbps.  So clearly, my Sprint connection to the IBR1700 doesn't like full-duplex at any speed.

Note that I'm not changing the setting from the IBR1700 to Sprint (I don't seem to have access to that), I'm changing the connection from the IBR1700 wired ethernet connector to the rest of my home.

I think that most cell radios are half-duplex (I'm on Sprint's 4G LTE here in Patterson).  I'm just surprised that there isn't a big recommendation somewhere that says to run at half-duplex when connecting to cell.

Can anyone confirm or deny?  This was a big surprise to me; but I'm pleased with the 30x speedup between half-duplex and full-duplex.

Thanks,

Scott

 

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4 minutes ago, 645824 said:

I've made a discovery about my home's network setup and would appreciate some advice.

Using my new Cradlepoint COR-IBR1700 for connection to the internet via a cellular connection, the local ethernet port on the IBR1700 can be set.  The factory default has it on AUTO, which  it reports running at 10Mbps.  That speed was horrible.  My house is wired for gigabit and all of my switches are gigabit. So I manually set the IBR1700 to 1000, which also necessitated full-duplex (since there is no such thing as 1000 half-duplex).  That speed was also horrible also. 

So then I set the IBR1700's ethernet port to 100 half-duplex, and now I get 30 Mbps from  speedtest.net  and  fast.com    Changing to 100 full-duplex drops back down to 1 Mbps.  So clearly, my Sprint connection to the IBR1700 doesn't like full-duplex at any speed.

Note that I'm not changing the setting from the IBR1700 to Sprint (I don't seem to have access to that), I'm changing the connection from the IBR1700 wired ethernet connector to the rest of my home.

I think that most cell radios are half-duplex (I'm on Sprint's 4G LTE here in Patterson).  I'm just surprised that there isn't a big recommendation somewhere that says to run at half-duplex when connecting to cell.

Can anyone confirm or deny?  This was a big surprise to me; but I'm pleased with the 30x speedup between half-duplex and full-duplex.

Thanks,

Scott

 

Try adjusting your MTU metric in LAN settings from 1500 to 1438. This is a common occurrence with Sprint service on embedded LTE radios. Is your data provisioned through Sprint or third party?

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13 minutes ago, belusnecropolis said:

Try adjusting your MTU metric in LAN settings from 1500 to 1438. This is a common occurrence with Sprint service on embedded LTE radios. Is your data provisioned through Sprint or third party?

My service is through Sprint (not a third party on the Sprint network).

Setting my Cradlepoint COR-IBR1700 as follows;  reported by speedtest.net:

  • MTU=1500, 100Mbps, half-duplex:  30 Mbps
  • MTU=1500, 100Mbps, full-duplex: 2 Mbps
  • MTU=1438, 100Mbps, half-duplex: 28 Mbps
  • MTU=1438, 100Mbps, full-duplex: 3 Mbps
  • MTU=792, 100Mbps, half-duplex: 27 Mbps
  • MTU=792 100Mbps, full-duplex: 2 Mbps

fast.com  produces consistent numbers.

TCPoptimizer liked 792 the best, so I tried that also.  The values from 30 to 27 Mbps are probably just traffic related, so I see those as the same.  It is the dramatic difference between half-duplex and full-duplex that is my concern.

Thanks,

Scott

 

 

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12 minutes ago, 645824 said:

My service is through Sprint (not a third party on the Sprint network).

Setting my Cradlepoint COR-IBR1700 as follows;  reported by speedtest.net:

  • MTU=1500, 100Mbps, half-duplex:  30 Mbps
  • MTU=1500, 100Mbps, full-duplex: 2 Mbps
  • MTU=1438, 100Mbps, half-duplex: 28 Mbps
  • MTU=1438, 100Mbps, full-duplex: 3 Mbps
  • MTU=792, 100Mbps, half-duplex: 27 Mbps
  • MTU=792 100Mbps, full-duplex: 2 Mbps

fast.com  produces consistent numbers.

TCPoptimizer liked 792 the best, so I tried that also.  The values from 30 to 27 Mbps are probably just traffic related, so I see those as the same.  It is the dramatic difference between half-duplex and full-duplex that is my concern.

Thanks,

Scott

 

 

Indeed, Understood.

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May Clearwire sites Nokia Mini Macro 2.5 triband conversions begin / continue!

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I'm in Reno for a conference at the Silver Legacy Casino, and this is kind of weird.  I've not taken my T-Mobile or AT&T phones around yet, but I took my Verizon phone and, of course, my Sprint phone.  Verizon has a DAS spread across the three casinos (Eldorado, Silver Legacy, Circus Circus) with a different sector of GCI 009395xx for each casino.  Sprint is on the DAS as well, but only in Circus Circus (0AC1C312).  In the other two, my phone instead connects to a macro a few blocks away.

- Trip

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10 minutes ago, Trip said:

I'm in Reno for a conference at the Silver Legacy Casino, and this is kind of weird.  I've not taken my T-Mobile or AT&T phones around yet, but I took my Verizon phone and, of course, my Sprint phone.  Verizon has a DAS spread across the three casinos (Eldorado, Silver Legacy, Circus Circus) with a different sector of GCI 009395xx for each casino.  Sprint is on the DAS as well, but only in Circus Circus (0AC1C312).  In the other two, my phone instead connects to a macro a few blocks away.

- Trip

Yesh. They're mostly upgrades to legacy repeater systems. I don't think Reno had that many DAS / Repeater systems that last time I checked. A good number of macro all upgraded with 8T8R 2.5 (or even M-MIMO) though!

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I just find it strange that the three buildings are connected--without going outside--and yet the Sprint DAS is only in one of them.  Meanwhile, Verizon is in all three.  I'll follow-up when I know about T-Mobile and AT&T.

- Trip

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T-Mobile and AT&T are in at least Silver Legacy and Eldorado.  Just Sprint is isolated to Circus Circus only.

- Trip

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I lived in Reno 16 years.  Love that town.  I recommend the mushroom ravioli at the Eldorado buffet and lunch at Cafe DeThai.  Have fun!

Robert

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Thanks.  I'm home now.  Ate in the hotel/casinos on Wednesday evening and Thursday, then breakfast and lunch were provided by the conference on Friday and Saturday, dinner Saturday as well, and Friday we went to Carson City to "Red's Old 395 Grill" which others raved about but I wasn't as keen on. 

At least I managed to get some TV and cell data!

- Trip

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14 hours ago, Trip said:

Thanks.  I'm home now.  Ate in the hotel/casinos on Wednesday evening and Thursday, then breakfast and lunch were provided by the conference on Friday and Saturday, dinner Saturday as well, and Friday we went to Carson City to "Red's Old 395 Grill" which others raved about but I wasn't as keen on. 

At least I managed to get some TV and cell data!

- Trip

Did you make it up to Tahoe?  Yeah, Red's is just average.  Nevada isn't really known for its BBQ.  However, if you are ever there on Labor Day weekend, there is the Best of the West Rib Cookoff in Downtown Sparks.  It is the biggest rib festival on the west coast, and it is highly recommended.  :imo:

Robert

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No, didn't make it to Tahoe.  We had a (very tardy) van take us to Carson City for dinner, and other than that, I spent my entire time in the casino.

I don't know what it is about people and barbecue--a lot of people seem to rave about bad barbecue.  Maybe it's because I've lived in a part of the country with really good barbecue, but here in DC, a lot of people rave about this BBQ place in DC that, despite being there several times, I can't find anything particularly great about.  The person I know best who likes it is from Florida and then went to school in Georgia, too, so he really should know better.  I don't really know what to make of it.

- Trip

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On 5/14/2019 at 10:43 AM, Trip said:

No, didn't make it to Tahoe.  We had a (very tardy) van take us to Carson City for dinner, and other than that, I spent my entire time in the casino.

I don't know what it is about people and barbecue--a lot of people seem to rave about bad barbecue.  Maybe it's because I've lived in a part of the country with really good barbecue, but here in DC, a lot of people rave about this BBQ place in DC that, despite being there several times, I can't find anything particularly great about.  The person I know best who likes it is from Florida and then went to school in Georgia, too, so he really should know better.  I don't really know what to make of it.

- Trip

Would this happen to be the Hill Country BBQ in DC?: https://www.hillcountry.com

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