Jump to content
prophead

Everything 800mhz (1xA, LTE, coverage, timeline, etc)

Recommended Posts

If it is still using the 2xxx then it will not connect to 800SMR at all.

Do we know if the Note 2's issue with 1x 800 is hardware or software?

 

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Do we know if the Note 2's issue with 1x 800 is hardware or software?

 

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4

 

No idea, no one at Sprint that you can get a hold of knows the answer or even understands what is currently in place with 2xxx.  I've only see a handful of people say they had issues and they were Shentel market folks and also it fits right in with when the national PRL had the Shentel 800SMR SID added.  I'm surprised it has gone on this long and has not been corrected. 

 

It doesn't bother me those as I just run another PRL with 800SMR and roll with it but unfortunately Ericsson has been dragging their feet in my area on 800SMR.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No idea, no one at Sprint that you can get a hold of knows the answer or even understands what is currently in place with 2xxx.  I've only see a handful of people say they had issues and they were Shentel market folks and also it fits right in with when the national PRL had the Shentel 800SMR SID added.  I'm surprised it has gone on this long and has not been corrected. 

 

It doesn't bother me those as I just run another PRL with 800SMR and roll with it but unfortunately Ericsson has been dragging their feet in my area on 800SMR.

 

Yeah Ericsson's 800mhz rollout has been disappointing at best.  I think there are only 3 towers in Florida that are accepted for 800mhz and none of them are actually broadcasting it yet :/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah Ericsson's 800mhz rollout has been disappointing at best. I think there are only 3 towers in Florida that are accepted for 800mhz and none of them are actually broadcasting it yet :/

I believe the few 800 acceptances in Florida were from over eager inspectors wanting to sign off on all the equipment. It may have even been one inspector. Because they all started being accepted at the same time, then stopped. As if someone was corrected. "Hey man, we're not accepting the 800 yet!"

 

Robert via Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 using Tapatalk

 

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have the authority to make CDMA1X 800 acceptance reports and have made plenty in my home state.  So, if you want more CDMA1X 800 acceptance reports, all you need to do is pay me to come to your town because I have the spectrum analyzer, engineering screen know how, and S4GRU street cred.

 

AJ

Ha ha, yes, then come to Atlanta!  Can I pay you in fried chicken and/or waffles??  But, seriously, if I'm connected to 800 and running signal check (lite), then my screen should display the signal strength on line #1 for "1x800" instead of "1xRTT," right?  Because right now it's showing "1xRTT."  

 

To be clear, if I'm connecting to 800 then signal check (even this lite version I'm running) would tell me, correct?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

But, seriously, if I'm connected to 800 and running signal check (lite), then my screen should display the signal strength on line #1 for "1x800" instead of "1xRTT," right? Because right now it's showing "1xRTT."

 

To be clear, if I'm connecting to 800 then signal check (even this lite version I'm running) would tell me, correct?

Yep, exactly.. the "1xRTT" will change to "1X 800".

 

-Mike

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks man. I see that means no 1x800 here yet. Oh well...in time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

really? Like if a tower is near the interstate, Lol it puts the dot right on the interstate. But it's within 10 ft of being accurate here. It's 99% accurate.

 

I'm not even sure what that means. There's some random letters in the middle of the sentence. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No idea, no one at Sprint that you can get a hold of knows the answer or even understands what is currently in place with 2xxx.  I've only see a handful of people say they had issues and they were Shentel market folks and also it fits right in with when the national PRL had the Shentel 800SMR SID added.  I'm surprised it has gone on this long and has not been corrected. 

 

It doesn't bother me those as I just run another PRL with 800SMR and roll with it but unfortunately Ericsson has been dragging their feet in my area on 800SMR.

I should flash ur PRL on my mothers Note 2. I know before the 2000 prl, she was connecting to 800 just fine

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm not even sure what that means. There's some random letters in the middle of the sentence. 

Okay, let me dumb it down for you lol. I'll open signalcheck/netmonitor and click the address below the connection type and it will take me to google maps and it will show a red dot for where the tower is and a blue dot for my current location. When I go to the red dot, the tower is within ten to thirty feet within that red dot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I should flash ur PRL on my mothers Note 2. I know before the 2000 prl, she was connecting to 800 just fine

 

I would advise against that as you could connect to a testing 800SMR site.  I would put the regular stock PRL on there for LTE Worldphones.  Think it's 55xxx if I remember right.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Okay, let me dumb it down for you lol. I'll open signalcheck/netmonitor and click the address below the connection type and it will take me to google maps and it will show a red dot for where the tower is and a blue dot for my current location. When I go to the red dot, the tower is within ten to thirty feet within that red dot.

 

:rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  <_<  :wall:

 

No duh. Every time you insert a 'lol' into a sentence, it makes it unreadable. 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

 

Additionally, you happen to be in one of the few markets where Sprint towers actually broadcast their locations. You seem dumbfounded by the fact that that doesn't work in most other markets. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

:rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  <_<  :wall:

 

No duh. Every time you insert a 'lol' into a sentence, it makes it unreadable. 

 

I like this better:

 

okay, letm e u mit down for ypou lpol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11~~~~~ olollolololololo 1l7 open signa7cheX0r/netmonitor and cliX0r teh afdress below th3 conncrt1on type and it will tAKe me to goofle maps and it will show a r3d dot for where teh to\\\\////\\\\////ar si aand a blue dot for My current location!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11~~~~~ lollololololololololo~~~ when i go to teh red dot, teh otwer si within ten to thirtyf ee tw1thi nthat Redd dot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1~~~~~~

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Okay, let me dumb it down for you lol. I'll open signalcheck/netmonitor and click the address below the connection type and it will take me to google maps and it will show a red dot for where the tower is and a blue dot for my current location. When I go to the red dot, the tower is within ten to thirty feet within that red dot.

LOL!

 

-Mike :P

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

:rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  <_<  :wall:

 

No duh. Every time you insert a 'lol' into a sentence, it makes it unreadable. 

Then don't read it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd imagine that it should work in every location after NV.. Lol

 

Nope.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lolz

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd imagine that it should work in every location after NV.. Lol

 

Let me pinch you to wake up from that dream...

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Let me pinch you to wake up from that dream...

IF my market can, Why can't others?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

IF my market can, Why can't others?

There are all kinds of weird magical inconsistencies like this in the NV roll out - the only people who might know are the people doing the actual installs.

 

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are all kinds of weird magical inconsistencies like this in the NV roll out - the only people who might know are the people doing the actual installs.

 

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4

You'd think that the markets would at least communicate about small details. Or do they not talk at all with each other?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are all kinds of weird magical inconsistencies like this in the NV roll out - the only people who might know are the people doing the actual installs.

 

Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4

 

It isn't so much an inconsistency, it is chaotic however.  The only folks that have up to the minute answers are the executives of the company contracted to do installation.  Even then there is NO single person that has all answers even within a given market as so many variables exist, backhaul, permits, crew availability. If i called James or Brian up neither would give me a specific date as to when they would be out on it, the crews themselves may not even know where to report until 10 PM the night before. 

You'd think that the markets would at least communicate about small details. Or do they not talk at all with each other?

Markets don't communicate on the contractor level, Unless you have a contractor that has crews deployed over several markets.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I understand the 'chaotic' nature of a massive nationwide rollout that, despite what some people think, is very fast-paced considering the scale of the project.  I work with many different communications contractors at worksites quite often, and most of them don't receive their assignments until they show up for work that morning.  Don't forget, while there are only three vendors responsible for different geographical areas, there are many many smaller contractors doing the actual work.  And some sites probably have more than one company doing different pieces of the puzzle.

 

However, do find it a little surprising that a specification such as how to set the base station coordinates wasn't explicitly given on either a national or at least "Big 3" level.  It's a piece of programming you would expect to be on a checklist somewhere.  I would somewhat understand if offsets were an Alcatel-Lucent thing and actual locations were an Ericsson thing.. but it just seems to be random, with pockets of true coordinates in scattered areas, and offsets in others.

 

From a technical standpoint, I believe each site's true coordinates are configured somewhere for E-911 purposes, correct?  Perhaps there is a "publicly broadcast offset location" bit somewhere that some contractors enable, and some don't?

 

-Mike

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I understand the 'chaotic' nature of a massive nationwide rollout that, despite what some people think, is very fast-paced considering the scale of the project. I work with many different communications contractors at worksites quite often, and most of them don't receive their assignments until they show up for work that morning. Don't forget, while there are only three vendors responsible for different geographical areas, there are many many smaller contractors doing the actual work. And some sites probably have more than one company doing difference pieces of the puzzle.

 

However, do find it a little surprising that a specification such as how to set the base station coordinates wasn't explicitly given on either a national or at least "Big 3" level. It's a piece of programming you would expect to be on a checklist somewhere. I would somewhat understand if offsets were an Alcatel-Lucent thing and actual locations were an Ericsson thing.. but it just seems to be random, with pockets of true coordinates in scattered areas, and offsets in others.

 

From a technical standpoint, I believe each site's true coordinates are configured somewhere for E-911 purposes, correct? Perhaps there is a "publicly broadcast offset location" bit somewhere that some contractors enable, and some don't?

 

-Mike

Network location is usually handled at the device level for 911. Is there any pattern for the offsets? More at the coasts, less in the middle of the country?

 

Sent from my EVO LTE

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Network location is usually handled at the device level for 911. Is there any pattern for the offsets? More at the coasts, less in the middle of the country?

 

I know the device reports its location for 911, but I believe the sites do as well.. something must report the location of the site, because (at least in MA) I know the 911 system can triangulate the position of a wireless caller on an older non-GPS device.

 

In MA and NH, every Sprint site I have found uses the offset.  Every US Cellular site I have roamed on in NH reports the exact location, so I know it's not me or my app :)

 

-Mike

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • large.unreadcontent.png.6ef00db54e758d06

  • gallery_1_23_9202.png

  • Similar Content

    • By EmeraldReporter
      IBEZ will be solved SOONER, rather than later.
       
      Which is a good thing. I would have liked for SoftBank to join the fight, because EVERYONE knows that their roaming rates are going to be abysmal with Sprint customers traveling to Mexico.
       
      Is this a raw deal? Your thoughts?
       
      Via GigaOM:
      https://gigaom.com/2015/01/26/att-to-buy-nextel-mexico-continuing-continental-expansion/
    • By BlackBerryRulez
      The closest Sprint tower to my house is about 3.5 miles away. In between are hills, trees, a handful of houses, and fields. However, I do have line of sight. I can see the blinking light of the tower in the distance at night. I do not think Sprint has deployed any LTE at this tower. When they do, is it possible that the LTE signal would reach my house?
       
      Right now I have a Moto X, but I may go back to the Q10. I do pick up eHRPD at my house. What frequency is that on? I'm thinking Sprint's 800ish mhz LTE band might. Not sure about 1900 though..
       
      Thanks
    • By burnout8488
      With the extremely fast ramp-up of band 26 deployment in the recent months, a lot of the US is now covered by it. Some markets have been optimized, some haven't. 
       
      For those markets that have seen band 26 optimization, what's your story? Did you used to get a weak 3G connection indoors, and now enjoy a usable 1-2 bar LTE connection? 
       
      Is your 800Mhz LTE connection stronger, the same, or slightly weaker than 3G now? 
       
      Let's try to keep this focused only on stories about areas that have seen a definite coverage improvement as a result of a fully optimized band 26 LTE deployment, not a thread that focuses on where optimization hasn't taken place yet. Perhaps we can boost morale and give us non-optimized folks something to look forward to. :-) 
       
    • By jamescrr
      I'm James from OpenSignal. We're trying to map international rollout of LTE, but very few phones can report the band and bandwidth used, so we're hoping people can help us by firing up field test mode and submitting the data to our map - all the data can be downloaded.
       
      We've already got a great map of South Korea and China, there's a lot of 10 MHz and 20 MHz bands there, which explains why they're clocking some of the fastest LTE speeds on the planet.
       
      You actually need to use "service mode" on Android to do this: 
      Type
      *#0011#
      Into a dialer. 
       
      You should see
       
       

       
       
      Here you can read the LTE stats easily. The Band is 7 (around 2600 MHz), and the LTE Bandwidth for download (LTE DL BW) is 15 MHz. Actually the Earfcn_dl gives a more precise reading of the band, 2825, so if this available use this.
       
       
      You can fill in the form here: Google docs form
      Your data will appear on a map here: LTE bandwidth map.
       
      This won't work for all Android phones, I'm yet to find any other codes that can bring up this info (field test modes & service modes are implemented differently on different devices.  
       
      On iOS try:
      *3001#12345#*[/size]
       
       
      Btw if any admin has the permissions, you can embed the form and map right here:
      Form:
      If that works fill out this form and your information will be automatically mapped:
      Loading…
      All the information is public, and responses are mapped immediately below – you will probably need to refresh this page before your data becomes visible. If it doesn’t appear after that there may be a problem geocoding please email me James (@ opensignal.com) with your observation and we’ll get it up.

      Map of LTE bandwidth. Click on a dot to see the observation. Get the raw data here.
  • Posts

    • A great article by Jim Patterson on rcrwireless.com. Some nuggets format 2.5GHz: “Braxton, Mike and John have authorized me to do some work at risk this year in getting ourselves ready to deploy the 2.5 gigahertz spectrum as soon as the deal closes. Nobody is more impatient for this thing to close than me. I wish I was deploying 2.5 radio on the network right now, but we’ve done work at low cost in terms of securing, permitting, and authorization to deploy 2.5. So as soon as this deal closes, we’re in a position where we can start laying down 2.5 radio on the new T-Mobile network.” Enterprise:   T-Mobile inherits not only a trough of spectrum with the Sprint acquisition, but hundreds of seasoned enterprise sales executives.  As Mike Sievert recently acknowledged in his appearance at the Citi conference a month ago, T-Mobile is under-indexed in enterprise.   Sprint’s enterprise roots are significant, having commanded close to 20% of the enterprise data market as recently as 2006.  There are many sales executives who cut their teeth with fleet management solutions (Nextel and Sprint), wireless access solutions (Clearwire and Sprint) and IP MPLS (Sprint).  *Without going through all of the details it’s important to note that the Apple iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 (and their variants) have the 2.5 GHz band already installed in the GSM (T-Mobile) version, and that the CDMA (Sprint) version of these devices already has T-Mobile’s Low Band 700 MHz spectrum, a.k.a. Band 12 (and Band 66 in the case of iPhone 😎 already enabled.  The CDMA version of the iPhone SE also has Band 12 enabled. Bottom line: there is the potential for backwards compatibility within the current handsets. And the iPhone XS (and variants) and iPhone 11 (and variants) are universal devices and include T-Mobile’s 600 MHz band which will be have a big benefit for Sprint customers. https://www.rcrwireless.com/20200216/analyst-angle/the-sunday-brief-new-t-mobile-cat-5-hurricane  
    • Good.  I bought shares in Shentel (SHEN) and US Cellular (USM) a year or two ago when their stock prices went down.  Waiting for a business consolidation event that causes their value to double or more.
    • Nice.  All three of my 4G Sprint phones are ready or near ready for upgrade.  I will wait until the "attractive offers" start.
    • I believe this has been discussed here, but is there a way to force the MB to latch onto B25 instead of B41? Where mine is located, it latches on to a VERY weak B41 signal instead of B25. None of my phones can get B41 at this location so the signal is very, very weak. The problem with latching on to B41, I get a decent download speed from the MB (close to 20 Mbps) but upload is less than 1 Mbps. This is with 1 user. I notice that if I run a speedtest on the MB, during the upload segment, the MB will actually fall offline (lose all LTE data activity). No data throughput when connected to the MB for 2-3 minutes after/during an upload speedtest. Would the MB phone support team be able to force the MB on to B25?
    • Those people that think that T-Mobile does not need to offer attractive offers to upgrade the handsets just imagine what kind of offers AT&T and Verizon will start offering to Sprint customers. A brand new iPhone on us or an attractive trade-in offer if you bring your number to us and you won't have to worry about these integration pains. Oh and these attractive per month plans. They will try to poach each and every Sprint customers. So T-Mobile will have to fight for each and every customer. They better come prepared.
  • Recently Browsing

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...