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As others have pointed out, this is a business decision on Verizon/Sprint's part; they will not activate unknown ESNs. The LTE parts of their networks are different and run off the SIM card, as does the GSM support which is why you can put an ATT or some other SIM in your Sprint/VZW iPhone 5 and use it on another network. I suspect you can even use a Verizon SIM in your Sprint iPhone and it would connect over LTE, though you certainly won't get voice coverage.

 

Apple only makes 2 physical models, then solders one of three flash chip configurations onto the board, then slaps that in one of two case colors. The number of phones available on each carrier is determined by how many phones the carrier has ordered from Apple compared to the overall number rolling off the assembly line... the SIM from that carrier is inserted right before it gets boxed and the computer systems tell Apple what serial # got what SIM, and in turn Apple transmits that info to the carrier so they know what ESN (for CDMA carriers), SIM, and Serial number go together. When you activate it downloads a config file that sets up stuff like personal hotspot enabled/disabled, etc. IIRC this file comes directly from Apple - the carriers interface with Apple's gateway to configure the phones but they can't touch them directly.

 

Sprint committed to a large ($15 billion) purchase of iPhones. You could say that they made the commitment to ensure adequate supply for their customers ;) but I suspect it is simply that Sprint has fewer customers; I will note that Sprint.com shows them shipping in 3-4 weeks and Apple.com says the same, so they may have just been slower to reallocate inventory from stores to online orders for Sprint; that's always a dynamic process.

 

Apple also allocates a certain percentage to stores no matter what to make sure they have stock on-hand for replacements, exchanges, etc. If fewer phones have come in for replacement then the store will have more on-hand for that carrier.

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Let's assume that each device is ESN-locked which means that Apple is allocating production output among the Big 3 -- thus Sprint's market share is essentially determined by Apple's produciton allocations, as this will force more buyers to buy Sprint iPhones if they cant buy any of the others. So we really wont know how competitive Sprint is and how successful it can be against the other guys since its iPhone market share is somewhat arbitrary and has been pre-determined by Apple.

 

 

Maybe more folks being introduced to the Now Network based upon how Apple wants customers to split the volumes. :-)

 

 

That's not how Apple allocates production. The carriers agree to a minimum purchase volume and pay a percentage up-front. The more they agree to buy and pre-pay, the larger their share of the initial production run. I suspect Apple also sets certain minimum targets for certain larger carriers, but no one outside that circle knows for certain.

 

What we do know is Sprint committed to a $15 billion deal for a lot of iPhones... that entitles them to a certain slice of the initial production runs. I've heard a few folks here and there taking a look at Sprint in LTE launch markets, partly due to unlimited data and partly due to availability. Sprint states 40%+ of iPhone customers are new to Sprint so I believe it.

 

If you are an early adopter and just have to have it and Sprint means walking away today, but ATT/VZW mean a 2 week wait... that's nothing but good news for Sprint :)

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Sprint's website says the iPhone 5 32GB ships in a week, but I ordered it online yesterday from Sprint's website and got it today!

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I can tell you that the Iphone 5 16GB delay on Verizon is just over 3 weeks currently.

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I really need to stop opening threads and forgetting to check them. As most of you know, I have my iPhone now. I've had it for over a month now. I was told 3 weeks, but recieved it on October 1st. I ordered on the 23rd. My local Sprint Store still has no stock, not even one to put on display. Apple Store has plenty, they have like 15 on display. Thanks for all the replies!

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