irev210 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 So true. Until LTE is rolled out on every site in a market, there is going to be mass confusion about LTE performance. People are going to wonder what the problem is when they think they have full bars of LTE that is pulling down less than 3Mbps. They are going to assume that Sprint is already experiencing LTE congestion. When in reality they just have a really weak LTE signal and just have no idea that it's weak because they have full bars in their strength indicator. I am constantly having to explain this over and over. I am going into detail about it in my Waco FIT article so I will have a reference doc to refer people to about it. Robert It made me realize that perhaps my judgement of 2.5GHz propagation was too harsh. I think the bigger issue was clearwire's deployment. For example, in the downtown area of Boston, Sprint has 17 native sites while Clearwire only has 11. Out of the 11 sites, 10 overlap with Sprint (the 11th site is close to Sprint just across the street). It's just amazing how indoor coverage is impacted yet outdoor coverage is fine. I am seeing this even more clearly with the Sprint 4G LTE rollout. If I could turn off 3G radios all together and just keep the 4G radio on, I could do even more testing. Edit: using *#*#4636#*#* to just keep 4G on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikan Havok Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Not west of Springfield, yet. The Pittsfield area will be one of the last parts converted in the Boston market. Robert So the Springfield area has some LTE sites? Cool, I didn't think this area was on the face of this earth. Chicopee, Holyoke, , et are just a few miles from . Lots of happy people come d day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 So the Springfield area has some LTE sites? Cool, I didn't think this area was on the face of this earth. Chicopee, Holyoke, , et are just a few miles from . Lots of happy people come d day. There are currently 3 sites complete with LTE improvements in the Springfield area. More will be added in the coming weeks. We track completed NV/LTE sites in our NV Sites Complete thread that gets updated every week. It is in our Sponsor section. For more information about becoming a Sponsor, you can visit this thread: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1195-information-about-s4gru-sponsorship-levels-and-how-to-become-a-sponsor/ Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesinclair Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 It will technically be able to work on Verizon. However, will Verizon let unlocked phones from the Sprint network on theirs is the million dollar question? There is no reason for them not to. But it's not known at this time. You could sell it on eBay and then buy a used VZW iPhone 5 in its place. Robert Verizon tech support can allow sprint phones to work on their system, but most phone reps are not aware of that or how its done, so you have to call multiple times to get someone who knows how to do it. So true. Until LTE is rolled out on every site in a market, there is going to be mass confusion about LTE performance. People are going to wonder what the problem is when they think they have full bars of LTE that is pulling down less than 3Mbps. They are going to assume that Sprint is already experiencing LTE congestion. When in reality they just have a really weak LTE signal and just have no idea that it's weak because they have full bars in their strength indicator. I am constantly having to explain this over and over. I am going into detail about it in my Waco FIT article so I will have a reference doc to refer people to about it. Robert Doesnt wimax 4g status thing show signal strength? Why not do that with lte? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Wimax in ics doesn't show a separate bar. Maybe dual signal bars was patented by Apple. Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpeatridge Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Not west of Springfield, yet. The Pittsfield area will be one of the last parts converted in the Boston market. Robert There's a reason it's called PITTSfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpeatridge Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 So the Springfield area has some LTE sites? Cool, I didn't think this area was on the face of this earth. Chicopee, Holyoke, , et are just a few miles from . Lots of happy people come d day. Also the LTE core is in Springfield that's why it was one of the first places to get LTE. Otherwise I agree I wouldn't have expected it either. I would have assumed that western ma would have been on the end of the Boston rollout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm1104 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I am currently in Deerfield, IL which is a part of Lake County and I have not had a 4g lte signal as of yet. I will keep you posted when I do get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Also the LTE core is in Springfield that's why it was one of the first places to get LTE. Otherwise I agree I wouldn't have expected it either. I would have assumed that western ma would have been on the end of the Boston rollout From what I remember the 4G core location does not indicate tower rollout locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 From what I remember the 4G core location does not indicate tower rollout locations. I have not seen a correlation. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92EG8 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Speedtest down the street from my house Sent From EVO LTE 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irev210 Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Speedtest down the street from my house Sent From EVO LTE That signal is incorrect. Check signal using ##DEBUG# or under settings, about, network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevster1321 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 So on the 21st Sprint say that they'll turn on LTE in the Boston market will it be only the 4G complete sites or are they going to turn on LTE on the 3G only sites also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 So on the 21st Sprint say that they'll turn on LTE in the Boston market will it be only the 4G complete sites or are they going to turn on LTE on the 3G only sites also They essentially will just stop blocking complete LTE sites. Robert via Samsung Galaxy S-III 32GB using Forum Runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevster1321 Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 There's not to many 4G complete sites in Boston market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 There's not to many 4G complete sites in Boston market Yes, but it would be good to use what is complete. Robert via Samsung Galaxy S-III 32GB using Forum Runner 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevster1321 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yes, but it would be good to use what is complete. Robert via Samsung Galaxy S-III 32GB using Forum Runner i just hope the 3G only sites turn in to 3G/4G sites soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassStash Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 One could only hope.... ~Viper4g 1.0.0 LTEvo; Enoch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 i just hope the 3G only sites turn in to 3G/4G sites soon Almost all of the new 4G sites in the Boston market every week were previously 3G only. Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassStash Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That is awesome! Great info ~ TF101 on Revolver4.2.1 Currently OC'ed to 1.4, with Guevor's v22.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irev210 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 There's not to many 4G complete sites in Boston market I am loving my limited 4G. Better to have limited 4G vs. noG? It's nice when I go to areas that are covered that I benefit from faster speeds instead of going to an area that is actually 4G but stuck on 3G - just seems silly when everything is ready to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abepilot Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I have been getting eHPRD signals in the Park Ridge//Des Plaines//Niles area for the first time. Sometimes I am getting 1.7 down and 0.6 mbps up. The other half I get the typical low data rates. Is this the beginning of turning on the switch on 9.21.12 for the towers that have been completed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphkaz Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So true. Until LTE is rolled out on every site in a market, there is going to be mass confusion about LTE performance. People are going to wonder what the problem is when they think they have full bars of LTE that is pulling down less than 3Mbps. They are going to assume that Sprint is already experiencing LTE congestion. When in reality they just have a really weak LTE signal and just have no idea that it's weak because they have full bars in their strength indicator. I am constantly having to explain this over and over. I am going into detail about it in my Waco FIT article so I will have a reference doc to refer people to about it. Robert Yes, it might get ugly and Sprint might once again get a really bad rap for it. I got my first LTE connection (on SGS3) this Saturday during my kids soccer games in Gilberts (NW Suburb of Chicago). Full bars showing 4g connection - and let's just say the performance was a bit underwhelming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yes' date=' it might get ugly and Sprint might once again get a really bad rap for it. I got my first LTE connection (on SGS3) this Saturday during my kids soccer games in Gilberts (NW Suburb of Chicago). Full bars showing 4g connection - and let's just say the performance was a bit underwhelming! [/quote'] And you probably really had zero bars of LTE. Either two signal strength indicators is needed or they should have it switch to read LTE signal strength when a LTE connection is made. Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphkaz Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 And you probably really had zero bars of LTE. Either two signal strength indicators is needed or they should have it switch to read LTE signal strength when a LTE connection is made. Robert via CM9 Kindle Fire using Forum Runner yeah, they need to sort out the signal strength meter problem ASAP or customers are going to be really upset... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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