danielholt Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 anyone see the latest message on inside sprint now? anyone still want to give him "beer money"? FML. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 anyone see the latest message on inside sprint now? anyone still want to give him "beer money"? FML. The same thing could happen to us too. I intentionally never post documents that have Sprint copyright or confidential disclosures. And most Sprint documents do. So I avoid them like the plague. Robert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielholt Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 maybe he could rename it from beer money to law defense fund, cause he might need it soon. rob i would expect at the very least a cease and desist, but you can hire a lawyer for $100 to respond and keep your site afloat, ive been down this road in other ventures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielholt Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 the guy is going to get hosting overseas and keep the site going... (which is stupid).... heres a copy of sprints notice to him: http://insidesprintnow.blogspot.com/2012/06/dmca-takedown-notice-from-sprint.html?spref=tw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 the guy is going to get hosting overseas and keep the site going... (which is stupid).... heres a copy of sprints notice to him: http://insidesprintn...t.html?spref=tw Yeah, I read it earlier today. He cannot fight the request, because he would have to reveal his identity. And he would be terminated. Which makes you wonder why he'd do it. Eventually they are going to start giving out misinformation to small groups of people inside Sprint to start narrowing down when and where it pops out. You can smoke out a mole easily if you are looking for one. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Did he really post something that was that bad? Was it the videos on youtube? Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielholt Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 it wasn't the galaxy 3 videos, it takes time to get a court order to shut a website down, and those videos were new.... it was the mass amounts of employee confidential information on his site, screenshots of terminals, inside bulletins... etc. he's a moron, he went about it all wrong. Sprint will get his ID when a court ordered IP address lookup gets results. This site is different as messageboards are protected FOR THE MOST PART. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH4RO Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I really enjoyed his site, as I do this one, but I agree that he should not risk his employment over it. Do you really think they will go that far if he goes away quietly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielholt Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 I really enjoyed his site, as I do this one, but I agree that he should not risk his employment over it. his employment is over. its just a matter of time until they catch up to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I was talking about the two hours of videos from the lucent conference calls. It doesn't take much to send out a DMCA letter especially when you have lawyers on the payroll. I can guarantee you they have them ready to go and just slap the name on them. I figure those videos probably pissed them off but they really weren't Sprint. But it was talking about their network and contractor. Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH4RO Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I hope and would think they have bigger fish to fry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 it wasn't the galaxy 3 videos, it takes time to get a court order to shut a website down, and those videos were new.... it was the mass amounts of employee confidential information on his site, screenshots of terminals, inside bulletins... etc. he's a moron, he went about it all wrong. Sprint will get his ID when a court ordered IP address lookup gets results. This site is different as messageboards are protected FOR THE MOST PART. It's my understanding it is not a court order. It was just a written complaint from Sprint corporate counsel to WordPress. WordPress shut down the site in response to the complaint. WordPress then turned on their client and asked him to prove he did not infringe (when it should be the other way around). I believe WordPress also said they will allow him to re-set up his account if he removes the infringing documents and videos in question, or proves they are not in violation. However, they are clearly in violation. He has posted documents that I have rejected to post because I saw the copyrights and passed on them. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcharles718 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I sure the site can keep flowing in one form or another. I think it has less to do with the public knowing of the information, but the public accessibly of internal documents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielholt Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 It starts as a cease and desist. Then court order and lawsuits. Sprints money is bigger than beer money. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Forum Runner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Sprints money is bigger than beer money. I laughed when I read this, because it is a funny quip. But it is a very true statement too. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deval Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 And this is why I don't mess with the policies of Sprint (see signature ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halcyoncmdr Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Sprint most definitely has an easy way of figuring out who it is. I have seen Sprint Corporate Security at our store on several occassions for issues. Most of them were just scare tactics honestly to kick people back in line again, but there have been a couple times where terminations just about on the spot. Leaked internal information is taken extremely seriously at Sprint when it is stuff they don't want out there. The fact ISN stayed active for so long means that they didn't really care about most of his stuff, probably because most was already info that was about to be released anyway, it wasn't worth persuing it since any Care rep may have given that info out over the phone anyway on accident since they already read it. Like before Any Mobile, Anytime was announced officially but Care had the info a few days in advance and it leaked out before the announcement through those channels. Something he posted got their attention, and there probably isn't a way to save himself from it now. Everything is monitored, everything is tracked. I have seen it, EVERYTHING. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgguy Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Working for a Sprint affialted company there have been plenty of times I want to post information and have to step back and say it's not worth it. Not worth losing my job, not worth the hassle and most definitely not worth the massive lawsuit that could ensue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 You guys sure aren't giving any of our sources any confidence with these posts. Robert 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irev210 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 You guys sure aren't giving any of our sources any confidence with these posts. Robert HUGE difference in structure. You are a non-affiliated blogger vs. insidesprintnow which is an employee posting up info. Big difference between you getting info and reporting it vs. an employee reporting his own info. It's like the separation of church and state. I was talking about the two hours of videos from the lucent conference calls. It doesn't take much to send out a DMCA letter especially when you have lawyers on the payroll. I can guarantee you they have them ready to go and just slap the name on them. I figure those videos probably pissed them off but they really weren't Sprint. But it was talking about their network and contractor. Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge Without a doubt it was those videos. I think it draws a pretty clear line in the sand what sprint will tolerate being leaked and what they wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twospirits Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 anyone see the latest message on inside sprint now? anyone still want to give him "beer money"? FML. As Darth vader would say 'I find you lack of faith disturbing" the guy is going to get hosting overseas and keep the site going... (which is stupid)... let me play Devils Advocate here, what if he does? Can they still go after him? You guys sure aren't giving any of our sources any confidence with these posts. Robert So true. HUGE difference in structure. You are a non-affiliated blogger vs. insidesprintnow which is an employee posting up info. Big difference between you getting info and reporting it vs. an employee reporting his own info. That is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielholt Posted June 21, 2012 Author Share Posted June 21, 2012 this is what i call "messing with sasquatch"... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroscott Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 this is what i call "messing with sasquatch"... Nothing like poking the bear. Sent from my CM9 Toro using Forum Runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fifth313ment Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I think this guy should be applauded for doing customer service the way it should be done. He is not an idiot for trying to do a job Sprint hides from. I would give him money in a second to help his new site! You guys are crazy for saying he doesn't know what he is doing. He has had that blog site for I think two years but it could be a little shorter. He has always posted tons of cool Sprint info but it wasn't until the EVO LTE issue that his site started getting a huge amount of coverage and hits. I wish this site was more like his! 5th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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