djw39 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Hi everyone, first time poster. Here is an article I found about seamless wifi-3g handoff. http://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/3g-wifi-seamless-offload.pdf The case in which this is useful is, turn on ESPN radio or NPR streaming, then go walk the dog. When I get out of range of home Wifi, stream breaks and I have to go into the app and restart it. I understand NV will bring LTE-to-3g seamless hand off (huge improvement over current situation with Wimax). What about Wifi? Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 They need to figure out how to get the new EVO to pick up a 3g connection after leaving a WiFi area first. Right now you have to reboot the phone if you forget to turn off WiFi before you leave the area. Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw39 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Also see http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/05/cable-companies-to-allow-wifi-roaming-across-50000-hotspots/, the cable wifi hot spot thing will be pretty useless if it breaks your connection every time you go from one to another. Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannible Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 They need to figure out how to get the new EVO to pick up a 3g connection after leaving a WiFi area first. Right now you have to reboot the phone if you forget to turn off WiFi before you leave the area. Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge I leave my wifi on almost every time i leave the house and have never had an issue getting 3G. It as never been an issue on either my original EVO and the EVO LTE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irev210 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I would love seamless handoff. I am another one of those live stream users... love the perfect hand-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 I leave my wifi on almost every time i leave the house and have never had an issue getting 3G. It as never been an issue on either my original EVO and the EVO LTE. Happens just about everyday for me. Data falls on its face about twice a day now it seems requiring a reboot. The phone was great for the first few days but now it has gone to pot. I think mine has an issue of leaving WiFi and the airave at the same time. Going to call sprint tomorrow and have them send me a new airave with the 3g on it otherwise this phone is going back to the store. Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyroscott Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Happens just about everyday for me. Data falls on its face about twice a day now it seems requiring a reboot. The phone was great for the first few days but now it has gone to pot. I think mine has an issue of leaving WiFi and the airave at the same time. Going to call sprint tomorrow and have them send me a new airave with the 3g on it otherwise this phone is going back to the store. Sent from my C64 w/Epyx FastLoad cartridge Maybe because your wifi covers half the neighborhood? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Maybe because your wifi covers half the neighborhood? LOL I think I saw a pic of digiblur's Wi-Fi antenna in another thread. Yeah, here it is... http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/176-expansion-is-there-any/page__view__findpost__p__22100 AJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pii100 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Let's just say there's going to be technical issues getting an IP stream to hand-off between a wifi network and a wireless carrier. The best solution would be for the application to prebuffer the stream and reconnect before the buffer is empty.. Or just turn off your wifi before you start the stream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw39 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 Let's just say there's going to be technical issues getting an IP stream to hand-off between a wifi network and a wireless carrier. The best solution would be for the application to prebuffer the stream and reconnect before the buffer is empty.. Or just turn off your wifi before you start the stream. Thanks, did you read the article in the first post? It details a technical solution to the problem. I am asking if Sprint is implementing that or a similar solution. Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw39 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Share Posted June 13, 2012 The Qualcomm document indicates that some form of this is part of 3GPP Release 8. Where does Network Vision fit in with 3GPP, 3GPP2 etc. ? Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digiblur Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Maybe because your wifi covers half the neighborhood? LOL I do run another wireless stream from another router for guests that's on a different VLAN than everything else in the house. It's your typical residential wireless range from 802.11n. I'll have to try hooking up to it and see what happens. As it happened again this morning when I left the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 The Qualcomm document indicates that some form of this is part of 3GPP Release 8. Where does Network Vision fit in with 3GPP' date=' 3GPP2 etc. ? Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk 2[/quote'] I don't recall ever seeing any specific "3GPP" Release numbers in any Network Vision docs I have seen. Robert via Kindle Fire using Forum Runner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pii100 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 Yes, I read the document, they are planning on overcoming the technical issues by routing all of your traffic through a box/boxes owned by the wireless carrier that would act as a proxy for your device. This makes me nervous. I'm not sure anyone will implement this due to cost, not to mention how upset would you be if that box stopped working and you could no longer use wifi or 3G/4G to connect. Its a lot of overhead for a very small benefit. IPv6 already has mechanisms for this type of hand-off built in and I see that getting implemented before this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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