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Philadelphia Network Vision/LTE Deployment schedule update


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by Robert Herron

Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

Sunday, July 1, 2012 - 12:56 PM MDT

 

The next market in our Network Vision/LTE deployment schedule update series is the City of Brotherly Love...Philadelphia. The Philadelphia Metro market has yet to be announced by Sprint, but is expected to be announced in the near future. Perhaps around the time of the first market launches.

 

The Sprint Philly market encompasses all of Southeastern Pennsylvania. Including the Philly Metro area, up toward the Lehigh Valley (Allentown/Bethlehem/Easton) and over toward Reading and Pottstown. In does not include the Jersey suburbs, which are in the Southern Jersey market. Sprint's Network Vision OEM Alcatel/Lucent is scheduled to be mobilizing their subcontractors around the market now. Completed Network Vision sites are scheduled to start coming online this month.

 

Philadelphia Metro Market Launch

 

It was Sprint's original plan to launch markets when they reached 50% of sites converted to Network Vision. However, it has now been determined that Sprint will move up launches sooner than 50% completion in several markets. This is likely to maintain a Mid 2012 launch in markets that have already been announced. However, in an unannounced market like Philly, we don't know if they will resume pushing back market launches to 50%, or if they will now settle on a 40% completion to be the new normal for market launches.

 

If Sprint waits for 50% completion to launch this market, it would make the launch approximately January (should the OEM stay on schedule). If they plan on a 40% market completion for launch, that would be December. You may think that 40% - 50% site completion is not enough to launch LTE service, but it would provide pretty good coverage. Even Verizon doesn't launch on all sites in a market initially. Usually less than 50%, then filling in with more and more sites every few months.

 

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Anticipated Sites Complete at Market Launch. According to the Network Vision schedules that S4GRU has reviewed, if Sprint launched the market in December, these are the anticipated sites that would likely have LTE complete at that time. This would provide fairly good LTE coverage over many parts of the market.

 

Schedule details and the bottom line

 

We currently do not have a date that Sprint will formally "launch" LTE service in Philadelphia. It is difficult to try to pick a date now this far out, but we will take a stab at it. In looking at the schedule as of today, it would indicate a December or January market launch (going on a 40% - 50% completion for launch). But there is no way to know if AlcaLu and their subcontractors will actually hit their schedule dates this early in the deployment for this market. We will be able to gauge better after a few months of production.

 

Alcatel/Lucent will need to hit a production rate of 50 sites per month to stay on schedule. This is an achievable rate in our opinion. If properly prepared and equipped and if backhaul is ready timely, this market shouldn't have problems staying on time.

 

S4GRU has examined the schedule in great detail in this market and sees that most of the sites will be complete by July 2013. However, there may be a few sporadic sites that will linger past the completion.

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Photo of the Philadelphia skyline provided courtesy of Wikimedia Commons.

 

NOTE: S4GRU Sponsor Members can track regular updates of

Network Vision sites completed nationwide. Completed sites are shown in an interactive Google Maps interface. Information about sponsorship can be found here: S4GRU Sponsorship

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I have 5 lines and i reach almost 25 GB i have no problem with sprint. Recently 3g is slow due to Network Vision still i can stream Netflix or Hulu with no hiccups.......

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Hey all, for what it is worth, I asked a customer rep today and asked when will Philadelphia have the 4G LTE network. She responded, "The end of November." So, hopefully by then we'll be rocking some faaaaaaaast interwebs.

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Hey guys, any update on the Philadelphia progress? I have a iPhone 5 coming Friday and I am really looking forward to some 4G LTE!!!!

 

Thanks!!

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Hey guys, any update on the Philadelphia progress? I have a iPhone 5 coming Friday and I am really looking forward to some 4G LTE!!!!Thanks!!

 

We are hearing some info from members in the Philly market that they are starting to see some activity at Sprint sites in the area. So it appears work has started. You will likely see sporadic LTE signals start coming live in your market around Mid November. Sprint said last week that they are working to have enough service to launch the market before the end of the year.

 

Robert

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since couple days i'am getting great speeds, here it follows

 

Test Date: Sep 28, 2012 12:31:50 pm

Connection Type: Ehrpd

Server: Philadelphia, PA

Download: 1755 kbps

Upload: 992 kbps

Ping: 91 ms

External IP: 66.87.83.83

Internal IP: 29.96.51.83

Latitude: 39.92540

Longitude: -75.11618

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Any ideas if the Philly market will cover Mt Laurel area?

 

No. That's in the Southern Jersey market.

 

Robert

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I can confirm, NV Towers are active in the Center City West & University City Area.

 

My network type is listed eHRPD now .vs EVDO Rev A.

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I can confirm, NV Towers are active in the Center City West & University City Area.My network type is listed eHRPD now .vs EVDO Rev A.

 

eHRPD is not deployed on only Network Vision sites. It has to be deployed on any site adjacent to them to for handoff purposes. The appearing of eHRPD is a good sign for the future, but having eHRPD does not mean that the specific site you are connected to has been converted. eHRPD is just a software upgrade and very easy to install.

 

Thanks for the notification of eHRPD in your area. :tu:

 

Robert

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I travel From Camden NJ to Landsdale PA everyday‚ network shows EHRPD all the way and thru. There is a drastic increase in the speed ‚i can stream Netflix and hulu with no buffering or hiccups . I go through couple sprint towers on my way and its an active work zone.

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Hi, guys. Have a question. My fiance just got a Sprint iPhone5. We live in center city and the 3G speeds are borderline unbearable. What kind of speeds can we expect when the LTE is up and running?

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Hi, guys. Have a question. My fiance just got a Sprint iPhone5. We live in center city and the 3G speeds are borderline unbearable. What kind of speeds can we expect when the LTE is up and running?

 

LTE performance is very signal strength dependent, no matter which LTE carrier you are using. If you have a strong Sprint LTE signal, peak speeds of 25-37Mbps are common. Moderate signals will produce 10-15 Mbps, and weaker LTE signals will still produce 2-10Mbps.

 

Robert

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The link in the article above for the 'Network Vision sites completed nationwide' (http://s4gru.com/ind...sites-complete/) asks for a password... am I missing something? Or am I just the odd man out, lol?

I was wondering the same. I thought I wasn't logged in at 1st.

 

The completed maps are in the S4GRU Sponsor section. You can become a Sponsor of S4GRU and access our interactive maps that not only show all the completed sites to date, but all the Sprint sites in the country. As well as other great content.

 

You can find out more about becoming a Sponsor here: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1195-information-about-s4gru-sponsorship-levels-and-how-to-become-a-sponsor/

 

Robert

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