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Boston Network Vision/LTE Deployment is charging full steam ahead with 20 sites now confirmed complete

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by Robert Herron

Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

Friday, March 16, 2012 - 2:58 PM MDT

 

Exciting breaking news from the S4GRU.com News Desk! Since our Central Jersey story broke on March 6th, we have received information from three separate sources about Network Vision upgrades that have been complete in the Boston market.

 

Now S4GRU.com can confirm that 20 sites have been upgraded in the Sprint Boston market (see map below) to Network Vision. What is really exciting about this, is it is further confirmation of the validity of our inside sourced material. If you recall, Sprint hasn't even announced the Boston market yet. But we announced it as a First Round market back on February 20th! And now work is coming to pass as we said.

 

The initial tip was for four sites complete out on Cape Cod. That expanded to a dozen all over the outer parts of the market, and now it's up to 20. All in 10 days time. I am not certain whether that this deployment in Boston is showing that sites are being deployed outside of the cluster sequence here, or if we are looking at work appearing in several scattered clusters (which is the most likely explanation).

 

This is an exciting update for our Bay Staters! 20 sites down, 920 more sites to go. Network Vision is rolling out steadily now. If you live in any of these areas or want to travel to one of these sites to check things out, send me a PM. I will send you a zoomed in map of any one of these sites. You can then drive over, run some performance tests and take some photos for us. You can be featured right here at Sprint 4G Rollout Updates.

 

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Sites Complete in Boston market. Just over 2% of all Boston Network Vision sites have been overhauled. 20 of 940 down. Click on map to enlarge.

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BOOM! Lets get some NV action in the Lowell, MA area next because I don't want to drive an hour to get to the nearest NV site!

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I also am working on some confirmation reports in the Austin market. This is particularly exciting because Austin is a Second Rounder. Stay tuned for that story!

 

Robert

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If you ever get info like this for KC I would volunteer to drive around doing test.

 

I would love to get the info for KC. But I only have what I am given. Stay tuned!

 

Robert

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If you get info like this for the LA Metro market, I would gladly volunteer to drive around and do speedtests.

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If you get info like this for the LA Metro market, I would gladly volunteer to drive around and do speedtests.

 

Eric, I am counting on you and others every time I can put together a list of completed sites for you all to go verify some/all of them. Thanks for the offer.

 

Now if we can just get some folks in this area to go do some verification. I think Kevster is within 20 to 30 minutes from one or two of these.

 

Robert

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Robert, I live here in Orange Count, CA and would be glad to be a volunteer for you for this area since I drive all over OC here recording Sprint & Roaming towers on my Blackberry Bold 9930 using Signal Loc.

 

I also travel the country here and have a trip planned for April to AR/TX that if you need me to report if Sprint has changed anything along there I can for the site here?

 

Let me know.

Shaun

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Robert, I live here in Orange Count, CA and would be glad to be a volunteer for you for this area since I drive all over OC here recording Sprint & Roaming towers on my Blackberry Bold 9930 using Signal Loc.I also travel the country here and have a trip planned for April to AR/TX that if you need me to report if Sprint has changed anything along there I can for the site here?Let me know.Shaun

 

Thanks for the offer Shaun. If I have something come up in your area, I will PM you. Send me a PM before you travel and I will let you know of things that you may be able to look for on your itinerary.

 

Robert

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Robert:

 

I've been checking your site every other day for updates on network vision an you have provided great info and updates. Please keep up the great work. I live in NYC in the county of Queens which is one of the 5 boroughs. If you get any info regarding sites that are up an running, let me know and i'll for sure take a drive around and do some tests. I wish I could go to boston and try for myself the 3G speeds and coverage.

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Robert: I've been checking your site every other day for updates on network vision an you have provided great info and updates. Please keep up the great work. I live in NYC in the county of Queens which is one of the 5 boroughs. If you get any info regarding sites that are up an running, let me know and i'll for sure take a drive around and do some tests. I wish I could go to boston and try for myself the 3G speeds and coverage.

 

Thanks for the offer! And :welcome: to the site!

 

Robert

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Robert once you announce OKC and have maps of the towers, I will gladly drive around town and take pictures lol. Trying to decide if I want to get the GN or wait to see what Moto offers with LTE so I can keep my lapdock.

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Thanks for the offer Shaun. If I have something come up in your area, I will PM you. Send me a PM before you travel and I will let you know of things that you may be able to look for on your itinerary.Robert

 

Anytime.

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So if 20 of them were done in 10 days, that's about 2 per day so if there are about 920 to go then that would be about 460 days left.

 

TS

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So if 20 of them were done in 10 days, that's about 2 per day so if there are about 920 to go then that would be about 460 days left. TS

 

They better pick up the pace, then!!! :hah:

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Im glad to see Sprints updating my area with 4G LTE but whats the deal with there phones? I just got a Photon 4G last weekend and Im reading lots of things that its wimax only. Can anyone confirm this? Ive read Sprint has no LTE phones yet and Ive read someone tested the Photon 4G from Sprint with a Verizon LTE sim card and connected to Verizons' LTE towers. I live right in between 2 of those towers in the Worcester area and work near another in Aubrun but I cant connect to 4G.

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Im glad to see Sprints updating my area with 4G LTE but whats the deal with there phones? I just got a Photon 4G last weekend and Im reading lots of things that its wimax only. Can anyone confirm this? Ive read Sprint has no LTE phones yet and Ive read someone tested the Photon 4G from Sprint with a Verizon LTE sim card and connected to Verizons' LTE towers. I live right in between 2 of those towers in the Worcester area and work near another in Aubrun but I cant connect to 4G.

 

The Photon is a WiMax only phone. It is impossible for any Sprint WiMax device ever built to run on Verizon LTE. Verizon LTE runs on 700MHz, which no Sprint WiMax device can do.

 

If you don't have WiMax coverage now, you may want to return your WiMax device now and wait until 4/15 for a LTE device. LTE is being deployed in the Boston market (including Worcester), even as I type this.

 

Robert, S4GRU.com

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Im glad to see Sprints updating my area with 4G LTE but whats the deal with there phones? I just got a Photon 4G last weekend and Im reading lots of things that its wimax only. Can anyone confirm this? Ive read Sprint has no LTE phones yet and Ive read someone tested the Photon 4G from Sprint with a Verizon LTE sim card and connected to Verizons' LTE towers. I live right in between 2 of those towers in the Worcester area and work near another in Aubrun but I cant connect to 4G.

 

Wow, I don't know what site you were at to read such a thing so I will say this, just hang out here and you will have any question you can think of answered accurately and timely.

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Great everything is rolling fast. I see a cell tower couple blocks from my house. How can I tell if it belongs to Sprint?

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Wow, I don't know what site you were at to read such a thing so I will say this, just hang out here and you will have any question you can think of answered accurately and timely.

 

Sprint forums ... link where I read about the Verizon sim being tested in the Photon ... http://community.spr.../message/400000

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Ok so browsing the web I came across this... Sprint says all devices will be LTE compatible or they will replace with a LTE device. (I doubt it)

http://www.acsyndica...te-is-this-tru/

 

After reading I decided to get in a chat with a Sprint Rep and see what I could find out. See the conversation below:

 

Sprint: We received your information and will connect you with a Chat Specialist soon.

 

Gil P.: Thank you for contacting Sprint. I am happy to help you. Please hold a moment while I access your account.

 

Gil P.: Eric, can you please elaborate more on the question.

 

You: I just recently got upgraded to a Photon 4G ... Ive been doing alot of research online and see Sprint is switching to 4G LTE and have read mixed answers on wether or not the Photon 4G, a wimax device, will be able to get a LTE signal...

 

Gil P.: Thanks for the information.

 

Gil P.: yes, absolutely, in no way it will effect your phone, your phone will get the LTE signal as well.

 

Gil P.: Eric, any thing else you wish to know about the network.

You: will an update be required to be able to receive the signal?

 

Gil P.: No, it would be automatically be set up so that it does not hinder in using your phone.

 

You: is there any timeline for when the 4G LTE will be available in my area? ive read that Sprint has already began deploying it

 

Gil P.: Can I have your zip code to check this for you.

 

You: 01605

 

Gil P.: Thank you.

 

Gil P.: Please allow me a few moments to check this for you.

 

You: ok thanks

 

Gil P.: Thanks for waiting.

 

Gil P.: The 4G LTE Coverage is not launched yet in your location, its in the process for launching, no exact date is launched yet.

 

You: sprint decided to stop carrying the photon by the end of april and it hasnt been out for even a year yet ... whats the reason for this? will this device still gets updates? possibly even android 4.0 ice cream sandwich?

 

Gil P.: Yes, as long as the phone is in stock and our Customer's are using the phone, there would be updates still available.

 

You: is the evo 4g also lte conpatible?

 

Gil P.: Yes, all the smart phones are LTE compatible.

 

Gil P.: Eric, any thing else I may assist you with/

 

You: why are they releasing a new evo 4g lte phone if the current phone is

lte compatible ... ? none of the fcc documents indicate anything about the current phones being 4g lte compatible?

 

Gil P.: No, Sprint is not releasing new evo with 4g lte, what I mean is that if the lte is launched, Sprint is ensuring that the phones work so that no one has any issues with the launching of lte.

 

You: sprint announced on april 4th i beleive the release of a Evo 4G LTE

 

Gil P.: The New phone set to launch is the LG Viper.

 

Gil P.: Not the EVO.

 

Gil P.: It would be for less then $100.

You: i know about the viper ... that and a nexues i beleive are supposed to be the first phones to use the 4g lte network, which makes me belive that older phone will not be able to use 4g LTE. the evo was introduced but no realease date set

 

Gil P.: Yes, Eric, you are right, Sprint will ensure that no issues occour so that you can use the phones with the presence of Lte networks.

 

You: im not concerned about issues using my phone once lte launches ... i want to know if my phone is LTE compatible> i understand my phone will still work on 3g and wi max once lte launches but I want to know if I will be able to connect to the new LTE network with my current phone.

 

Gil P.: Yes, Eric, your phone is compatible to LTE network and you will be able to operate the phone on this network.

 

You: so once LTE launches in my area i will be able to connect to 4g LTE network? and not be in the old wi max network?

 

Gil P.: Yes, absolutely you are correct.

 

You: well we will see what happens because ive talked to another agent and they said wi max devices will not be able to use the new 4g lte network

 

Gil P.: Please be assure, Eric, it will be working fine and you won't face any issues.

 

You: quote: Megan: Phones that are WiMAX capable will not run on the LTE network, however, WiMAX will coexist for years with LTS, so WiMAX phones will not become obsolete once we launch LTE. Separate devices created with the LTE specific chipset, antenna, and other hardware will be made available to use on the LTE network.

 

Gil P.: The Wimax phones will however work because Sprint is launching a software that enables the phone to work inspite of launching the LTE networks.

 

You: so this software will allow a wi max device to connect to LTE network and get LTE data speeds?

 

Gil P.: Yes, that's right.

 

You: ok, thank you for all you help

 

Gil P.: You're welcome!

 

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Ok so browsing the web I came across this... Sprint says all devices will be LTE compatible or they will replace with a LTE device. (I doubt it)http://www.acsyndica...te-is-this-tru/After reading I decided to get in a chat with a Sprint Rep and see what I could find out.

 

This is not accurate. This ACS post came out when Sprint said that all new devices being released from there forward will have LTE. So there must have been some wires crossed. Sprint has never said that they will support LTE on WiMax devices. And they can't make that claim. Because it is impossible.

 

Sprint's existing WiMax devices run on TDD in 2500MHz only. Sprint's LTE will run on FDD in 1900MHz. It is impossible to get WiMax TD-2500 devices to run on Sprint's FDD-LTE 1900 network. It cannot be done. WiMax device holders are at the end of the line technology wise. While it may be possible to get a WiMax device converted to maybe run on Clearwire's LTE network in the future, Clearwire will not have their LTE network running until Summer 2013 (and then your device will be so obsolete, that it won't matter).

 

As for the Sprint Rep you talked with, this is not the first time I have seen a misinformed rep say this. But I can tell you unequivocally that Sprint is not going to provide some magic OTA that will let WiMax devices run on the LTE network. That is the stuff of fairy tales.

 

Robert

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