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#1 lilotimz

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 06:33 PM

Airspan AirHarmony 1000 / 4000


Small cell deployments in Samsung vendor regions will be undertaken by Airspan utilizing the AirHarmony series of small cells.These small cells are capable of 40 MHz IBW for 2xCA over Band 41. More here.

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 12:25 PM

That's actually a pretty attractive and tidy setup compared to the other small cells I've seen. The whole thing could be pretty easily confused for a coax splice box and an oddly-mounted transformer by a layperson.


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#3 lilotimz

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 01:50 PM

That's actually a pretty attractive and tidy setup compared to the other small cells I've seen. The whole thing could be pretty easily confused for a coax splice box and an oddly-mounted transformer by a layperson.

 

About the par. Nokia ones are a bit more compact. 



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 04:08 PM

Is the cylinder part of the setup?

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 04:17 PM

Is the cylinder part of the setup?

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 07:38 PM

I noticed these were named small cells vs Nokia mini macros. Do these provide less coverage than the Nokia?



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:24 PM

I noticed these were named small cells vs Nokia mini macros. Do these provide less coverage than the Nokia?

 

Small cells is a category and can include pico cells, femto cells, DAS setups, and "mini macros" which are small cell type units with the power output of a macro radio. 

 

The Airspan 1000's are low powered pico cells (2x5w) while  Airspan 4000's can be considered "mini macros" as they can do 2x20w like the Nokia Mini Macro 2x20w. So I just named it small cells to cover both types. 



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:32 PM

Small cells is a category and can include pico cells, femto cells, DAS setups, and "mini macros" which are small cell type units with the power output of a macro radio. 

 

The Airspan 1000's are low powered pico cells (2x5w) while  Airspan 4000's can be considered "mini macros" as they can do 2x20w like the Nokia Mini Macro 2x20w. So I just named it small cells to cover both types. 

 

That's good to know. I was only concerned because the person on Reddit said they saw four of these in a three block area, which seems excessive in a town under 20k. 



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:03 PM

That's good to know. I was only concerned because the person on Reddit said they saw four of these in a three block area, which seems excessive in a town under 20k. 

 

There's actually close to a dozen. :)

 

Also just because they can broadcast high power doesn't mean they have to. Just like a wifi router, you can set the Tx power at whatever you want given the hardware and government limits. 



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:13 PM

There's actually close to a dozen. :)

 

Also just because they can broadcast high power doesn't mean they have to. Just like a wifi router, you can set the Tx power at whatever you want given the hardware and government limits. 

 

Wow! Talk about endless capacity. Rent must be cheap for those poles, then. I was thinking they were going to blast them to somewhat replicate needed band 41 macros to minimize rent costs - but that works for me, too!



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:20 PM

Wow! Talk about endless capacity. Rent must be cheap for those poles, then. I was thinking they were going to blast them to somewhat replicate needed band 41 macros to minimize rent costs - but that works for me, too!

Actually..... That's what they're doing with the Huawei clearwire sites that they must completely decommission by the end of this year... ....

But yeah. They just negotiate for mass approval with the city municipal entities. Easy pz.


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Posted 16 August 2016 - 05:53 AM

Nicceee. I'm in a Sammy market and can't wait to see these start to pop up in Columbus, OH!!


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Posted 16 August 2016 - 06:01 AM

In which these are a lot less expensive then a full blown cell site, which explains why they reduced cap ex but are still able to expand coverage

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Posted 19 August 2016 - 07:33 AM

It only expands coverage in the existing footprint. in Roaming only areas is doesn't. regular cell towers will be needed for that. Small cells are LTE only and, most are band 41 only.






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