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#1 lilotimz

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Posted 10 August 2016 - 06:33 PM

Airspan AirHarmony 1000 / 4000 / 4400


A large subset of small cell deployments will be undertaken by Airspan utilizing the AirHarmony series of small cells.These small cells are capable of 40 MHz IBW for 2xCA over Band 41. More here.

 

 

Airspan iRelay 460 LTE B41 UE Relay Antenna

 

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AirHarmony 1000 B41 Pico 

 

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AirHarmony 4000 B41 Mini Macro

 

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 12:25 PM

That's actually a pretty attractive and tidy setup compared to the other small cells I've seen. The whole thing could be pretty easily confused for a coax splice box and an oddly-mounted transformer by a layperson.


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#3 lilotimz

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 01:50 PM

That's actually a pretty attractive and tidy setup compared to the other small cells I've seen. The whole thing could be pretty easily confused for a coax splice box and an oddly-mounted transformer by a layperson.

 

About the par. Nokia ones are a bit more compact. 



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 04:08 PM

Is the cylinder part of the setup?

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 04:17 PM

Is the cylinder part of the setup?

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Posted 11 August 2016 - 07:38 PM

I noticed these were named small cells vs Nokia mini macros. Do these provide less coverage than the Nokia?



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:24 PM

I noticed these were named small cells vs Nokia mini macros. Do these provide less coverage than the Nokia?

 

Small cells is a category and can include pico cells, femto cells, DAS setups, and "mini macros" which are small cell type units with the power output of a macro radio. 

 

The Airspan 1000's are low powered pico cells (2x5w) while  Airspan 4000's can be considered "mini macros" as they can do 2x20w like the Nokia Mini Macro 2x20w. So I just named it small cells to cover both types. 



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 09:32 PM

Small cells is a category and can include pico cells, femto cells, DAS setups, and "mini macros" which are small cell type units with the power output of a macro radio. 

 

The Airspan 1000's are low powered pico cells (2x5w) while  Airspan 4000's can be considered "mini macros" as they can do 2x20w like the Nokia Mini Macro 2x20w. So I just named it small cells to cover both types. 

 

That's good to know. I was only concerned because the person on Reddit said they saw four of these in a three block area, which seems excessive in a town under 20k. 



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:03 PM

That's good to know. I was only concerned because the person on Reddit said they saw four of these in a three block area, which seems excessive in a town under 20k. 

 

There's actually close to a dozen. :)

 

Also just because they can broadcast high power doesn't mean they have to. Just like a wifi router, you can set the Tx power at whatever you want given the hardware and government limits. 



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:13 PM

There's actually close to a dozen. :)

 

Also just because they can broadcast high power doesn't mean they have to. Just like a wifi router, you can set the Tx power at whatever you want given the hardware and government limits. 

 

Wow! Talk about endless capacity. Rent must be cheap for those poles, then. I was thinking they were going to blast them to somewhat replicate needed band 41 macros to minimize rent costs - but that works for me, too!



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Posted 11 August 2016 - 10:20 PM

Wow! Talk about endless capacity. Rent must be cheap for those poles, then. I was thinking they were going to blast them to somewhat replicate needed band 41 macros to minimize rent costs - but that works for me, too!

Actually..... That's what they're doing with the Huawei clearwire sites that they must completely decommission by the end of this year... ....

But yeah. They just negotiate for mass approval with the city municipal entities. Easy pz.


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Posted 16 August 2016 - 05:53 AM

Nicceee. I'm in a Sammy market and can't wait to see these start to pop up in Columbus, OH!!


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Posted 16 August 2016 - 06:01 AM

In which these are a lot less expensive then a full blown cell site, which explains why they reduced cap ex but are still able to expand coverage

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Posted 19 August 2016 - 07:33 AM

It only expands coverage in the existing footprint. in Roaming only areas is doesn't. regular cell towers will be needed for that. Small cells are LTE only and, most are band 41 only.



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Posted 31 January 2017 - 12:47 AM

I believe this belongs here.  Construction drawing of small cells they wanna build in lacrosse WI.  

 

NOTE :  It is a pdf download. 

 

http://cityoflacross...5C-0540BF0D6C34



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Posted 31 January 2017 - 01:16 AM

I believe this belongs here.  Construction drawing of small cells they wanna build in lacrosse WI.  

 

NOTE :  It is a pdf download. 

 

http://cityoflacross...5C-0540BF0D6C34

 

Wonder why Mobilitie can't get permits approved? 

 

76 feet wooden pole in urban land where most telephone / electrical wooden poles are less than 30-40 feet. 



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Posted 26 February 2017 - 02:09 PM

Don't forget that poles are measured in their entirely.  You have to add what is buried to what you see above ground to get pole length.

 

These small cells also appear to be deployed on the opposite side of the street from the power poles.  This is also true for Verizon small cells in most cases.



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Posted 01 March 2017 - 12:04 AM

Just a teeny update of pics. 



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 12:12 PM

I'm wondering if this site in Willmar is the reason why I get B41 at my house. There is only 1 B41 tower in town that has been broadcasting for 2 years now, and just a few months ago I started getting B41 in one room in my house. It's a -110 to -122db connection, so really slow speeds. If I can get a location as to where it is, I can get more speedtests and pictures of the setup!



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Posted 03 March 2017 - 06:51 PM

Don't forget that poles are measured in their entirely. You have to add what is buried to what you see above ground to get pole length.
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ANSI standard setting for a 75 ft. wood pole is about 10 ft. So, you're still looking at about 65 ft. above ground.

I stopped by a proposed Mobilitie site in Los Angeles, and I can't imagine the neighbors are going to be very happy when they find out there's a 75 foot pole going up in their front yards. I want these small cells badly, but someone isn't using common sense with some of these proposed sites.




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