Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread

[avb]

And none of this matters unless Spotify, Apple Music, Google Play Music all start losing customers in droves to Tidal.  But that's not happening because people don't care.

[derrph]

And none of this matters unless Spotify, Apple Music, Google Play Music all start losing customers in droves to Tidal. But that's not happening because people don't care.

I agree Tidal is not a threat to any of those services(paid users). I can't speak on Google Play subs. I think the problem with Tidal started with that press release with all those artists on stage pretty much saying "y'all need to pay is more for our music" it's was like a undercover boohoo fest.

 

They just aren't forcing people hand with their music staying strictly on their service and not to be listened or bought from other digital outlets. I would consider subscribing to them if they fixed that crap interface and had a radio feature.

 

 

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[kg4icg]

Well I think there may be a Android powered BlackBerry coming to Sprint.

 

https://fccid.io/2ACCJN010

 

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[Tengen31]

Well I think there may be a Android powered BlackBerry coming to Sprint.

 

https://fccid.io/2ACCJN010

 

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How does that show Sprint? Could be VZW

 

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[kg4icg]

Since when did Verizon have full band 26 LTE? There is no Verizon frequencies in this phone.

 

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[Arysyn]

There certainly are a lot of different forms of lossless. Tidal, from what I've read online, is preparing to begin streaming MQA, which I've also read is going to reduce bandwidth. There are those who think if Tidal can be successful with this, or that in general HD audio streaming demand grows, other streaming services such as Apple, etc., may begin offering HD audio streams, whether flac, alac, among others.

 

If this happens, perhaps carriers will need to look on how it might impact their networks compared with mainstream mp3 audio streaming. Despite my own support and hope that HD audio streaming grows, I do have to wonder about the general need for this. I certainly hear the difference, particularly with a good dac/amp, and believe others will too, but really what this growth needs is a strong music market, and that is the weak link in this growth.

 

There is very little going on in music nowadays as it is. Nothing really exciting going on anymore. Things have really changed from the 50s, 60s,70s, 80s, and 90s with the internet and other technologies changing society, and while there are those who appreciate music, it isn't such the force in society that it once was, and for what it is, most people are happy enough with mp3. I certainly acknowledge that, despite hoping for some convergence to a higher standard. Yet, the general drive towards it isn't there being driven by the music industry, for sure. My hope is, and as I believe will be driven by the technology industry to get these standards up.

[Arysyn]

Well I think there may be a Android powered BlackBerry coming to Sprint.

 

https://fccid.io/2ACCJN010

 

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Hopefully for Blackberry's sake they do. Blackberry now having a third party involved with their smartphones seems to be on its last run now, in my opinion.

[tyroned3222]

How can sprint achieve more carriers this year? Someone said they can do six this years

 

 

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[Tengen31]

How can sprint achieve more carriers this year? Someone said they can do six this years

 

 

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Six this year no. The 4th isn't even planned. Only plans more B41 towers that don't have it, small cells hopefully macro sites. Along with B41 3XCA possible B25 CA. 4x4 mimo 256 qam.

 

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[caspar347]

How can sprint achieve more carriers this year? Someone said they can do six this years

 

 

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8T8Rs support up to 6 carriers. They just have to do testing for each additional carrier. Sprint has more than enough spectrum for 6 Band 41 carriers in most of the top 50 markets IIRC. But this does NOT mean 4x or 5x or 6xCA. That won't happen for a while, as 8T8Rs can't do 4x/5x/6xCA without current software.

 

But unless plans have changed recently, they're going to stop at 3 carriers for most sites and add more as needed site-by-site. i.e. 3 carriers will be the default and they can do up to 6 if the site is heavily used (middle of a city, single site covering an airport or mall, etc).

 

They won't do 6 on all sites because the backhaul is twice as expensive and the vast majority of sites will never need 400+gbps of capacity. 3 carriers offer ~200gbps max per sector and they can always go back and add carriers as needed.

 

As far as timeline goes, I kinda doubt they can test another 3 carriers across 3 sets of B41 gear in one year if the last 3 take as long as the first 3.

[tyroned3222]

8T8Rs support up to 6 carriers. They just have to do testing for each additional carrier. Sprint has more than enough spectrum for 6 Band 41 carriers in most of the top 50 markets IIRC.

 

But unless plans have changed recently, they're going to stop at 3 carriers for most sites and add more as needed site-by-site. i.e. 3 carriers will be the default and they can do up to 6 if the site is heavily used (middle of a city, single site covering an airport or mall, etc).

 

They won't do 6 on all sites because the backhaul is twice as expensive and the vast majority of sites will never need 400+gbps of capacity. 3 carriers offer ~200gbps max per sector and they can always go back and add carriers as needed.

 

As far as timeline goes, I kinda doubt they can test another 3 carriers across 3 sets of B41 gear in one year if the last 3 take as long as the first 3.

what set up do you see here

 

 

 

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Edit by moderator: These photos have already been posted in this thread and in an additional thread (NM/ El Paso Thread) with discussion and identification. 

Edited January 16, 2017 by Dkoellerwx
Removed unnecessary photos.

[lilotimz]

Six this year no. The 4th isn't even planned. Only plans more B41 towers that don't have it, small cells hopefully macro sites. Along with B41 3XCA possible B25 CA. 4x4 mimo 256 qam.

 

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 The 4th B41 carrier has actually been found and confirmed in the wild. 

[Terrell352]

The 4th B41 carrier has actually been found and confirmed in the wild.

lets see it! ????

 

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[caspar347]

Oh, and it's super important to keep in mind that (IIRC, Tim please correct me if I'm wrong) 8T8Rs can't do more than 3xCA. So you won't see individual speeds higher than what we've seen so far.

 

...until future software updates happen.

[caspar347]

what set up do you see here

 

 

 

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A normal B25+26 and 8T8R install?

[tyroned3222]

A normal B25+26 and 8T8R install?

so the site does have 8T8R install on it

 

 

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[lilotimz]

lets see it!

 

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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6929-sf-bay-market-nv-20-spreadsheetmap-and-discussion/?p=493425

 

 

Oh, and it's super important to keep in mind that (IIRC, Tim please correct me if I'm wrong) 8T8Rs can't do more than 3xCA. So you won't see individual speeds higher than what we've seen so far.

 

Future software updates needed. 

 

 

 

so the site does have 8T8R install on it

 

 

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....

 

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/5657-how-to-spot-sprint-8t8r-td-lte-rrhs-nokia-networks/

[caspar347]

so the site does have 8T8R install on it

 

 

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I'm in an ALU/Nokia-A market so I'm not great at recognizing non-ALU 8T8Rs, but I'm pretty sure the lower right antenna in the first image is an 8T8R.

[lilotimz]

I'm in an ALU/Nokia-A market so I'm not great at recognizing non-ALU 8T8Rs, but I'm pretty sure the lower right antenna in the first image is an 8T8R.

 

>>>>> http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/5657-how-to-spot-sprint-8t8r-td-lte-rrhs-nokia-networks/

[tyroned3222]

I'm in an ALU/Nokia-A market so I'm not great at recognizing non-ALU 8T8Rs, but I'm pretty sure the lower right antenna in the first image is an 8T8R.

Nice! Which this site even tho not approved yet here includes band 26 equipment

 

 

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[caspar347]

Nice! Which this site even tho not approved yet here includes band 26 equipment

 

 

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I'm actually not sure about that (the 26 antenna ports don't look hooked up) but that's hard to tell from the pictures. But yeah those are 8T8Rs.

[tyroned3222]

I'm actually not sure about that (the 26 antenna ports don't look hooked up) but that's hard to tell from the pictures. But yeah those are 8T8Rs.

Ya, El Paso is not approved yet for 800mhz... so I wouldn't expect them to be hook up, but at least knowing the equipment is up their makes it a whole lot better

 

 

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[Tengen31]

The 4th B41 carrier has actually been found and confirmed in the wild.

So far I don't see anything that proves a 4th carrier.

 

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[lilotimz]

So far I don't see anything that proves a 4th carrier.

 

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4 unique EARFCNs from the same site with the same serving cell and nearly identical RSRP levels. With one of them being 100 MHz separated from the three contiguous carriers (39926 vs 40978+41176+41374).

 

Did you even click the post link?

 

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[Tengen31]

4 unique EARFCNs from the same site with the same serving cell and nearly identical RSRP levels. With one of them being 100 MHz separated from the three contiguous carriers (39926 vs 40978+41176+41374).

 

Did you even click the post link?

 

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Yes but, I don't see it?

 

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