Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread

[payturr]

From my experience the b41 doesn't work well here. Not sure if it can't travel due to poor equipment or the hilly topography of the region.

 

My argument is the other carriers can make it work...

 

Now I know other carriers don't have b41.

 

 

 

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AT&T has WCS, which is 2.3GHz. Close enough.

[mardukeme]

From my experience the b41 doesn't work well here. Not sure if it can't travel due to poor equipment or the hilly topography of the region.

 

My argument is the other carriers can make it work...

 

Now I know other carriers don't have b41.

 

 

 

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Exactly that's why he didn't understand why they had set up one in the middle of nowhere in the mountainous woods. Where there are congested cities that actually needed it still don't have it.

 

I don't remember all the details it was one those nights at a bar. I think he did say it was the number crunchers that are making the decisions here.

 

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[greenbastard]

From my experience the b41 doesn't work well here. Not sure if it can't travel due to poor equipment or the hilly topography of the region.

 

My argument is the other carriers can make it work...

 

Now I know other carriers don't have b41.

 

 

 

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It doesn't work in Texas, but I have had a better experience with Band 41 in Las Vegas and others claim the same in New York and other Yankee areas. Its all about location and network management, which isn't consistent throughout the Sprint Network.

 

B41 Indoor coverage should also improve with 3GPP REL 14. Unfortunately, the increase in power still won't guarantee indoor coverage everywhere. It will definitely help, but at the end of the day the rule of physics still applies to the 2.5/2.6 GHz bands. With VoLTE being the future, Sprint needs more low band spectrum and it may regret skipping the 600 and 700 MHz auction in the near future.

[Ascertion]

This is just a question.  According to @Sprintcare on twitter, this site was to begin work early November and be LTE ready on B25/B26 by the end of March.  When I asked about it prior to leaving Sprint early this year, their executive team didn't give a reason.  It is still broadcasting legacy 3G only.  Anyone have access to Sprint's Glance to see what the status is now? 

[Deval]

This is just a question.  According to @Sprintcare on twitter, this site was to begin work early November and be LTE ready on B25/B26 by the end of March.  When I asked about it prior to leaving Sprint early this year, their executive team didn't give a reason.  It is still broadcasting legacy 3G only.  Anyone have access to Sprint's Glance to see what the status is now? 

 

Something to keep in mind is that some of the dates are very tentative, and could slip relatively easily. 

[Ascertion]

Something to keep in mind is that some of the dates are very tentative, and could slip relatively easily. 

I understand delays, but almost an entire year since they began work?? Something must have really kept them from continuing the upgrade, whether it was permit status or lack of backhaul.  I'm hoping someone that has access to Glance can shed an update.

[RedSpark]

Sprint has officially announced Unlimited Freedom Premium, which can be added on a per-line basis for $20/month. As the press release says, some people don't mind "mobile optimization" for certain content based on their usage habits, while others do.

[Ascertion]

Sprint has officially announced Unlimited Freedom Premium, which can be added on a per-line basis for $20/month. As the press release says, some people don't mind "mobile optimization" for certain content based on their usage habits, while others do.

Did anyone else notice it says up to 1080p for videos while the T-Mobile one says up to 4K?  Seems like they're still limiting the amount of bandwidth for video, just enough for 1080p.  Not saying 4K isn't overkill, just an observation. 

 

Interesting AT&T's unl data plan requires a minimum $50 DirecTV plan. 

[Scott]

Did anyone else notice it says up to 1080p for videos while the T-Mobile one says up to 4K?  Seems like they're still limiting the amount of bandwidth for video, just enough for 1080p.  Not saying 4K isn't overkill, just an observation. 

Yep. According to the Verge article about the Unlimited Freedom Premium plan, video is capped at 1080p, audio is throttled at 1.5 Mbps and gaming is throttled at 8 Mbps.

[Johnner1999]

Not to set off a powder keg- but.

 

So with the network optimization in place on the new $60 plan. Does that mean everything is going through a proxy service Like cricket does?

 

 

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[bigsnake49]

Did anyone else notice it says up to 1080p for videos while the T-Mobile one says up to 4K?  Seems like they're still limiting the amount of bandwidth for video, just enough for 1080p.  Not saying 4K isn't overkill, just an observation. 

 

Interesting AT&T's unl data plan requires a minimum $50 DirecTV plan. 

 

I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference between 4K and 1080p. Plus I don't see a hell of a lot of 4K video available out there. Don't say Netflix because their 4K looks as good as good as Apple's 1080p.

[Johnner1999]

I doubt you'd be able to tell the difference between 4K and 1080p. Plus I don't see a hell of a lot of 4K video available out there. Don't say Netflix because their 4K looks as good as good as Apple's 1080p.

Idk

 

I still think 540p or 480p look just fine.

 

 

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[Ascertion]

Not to set off a powder keg- but.

 

So with the network optimization in place on the new $60 plan. Does that mean everything is going through a proxy service Like cricket does?

 

 

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Definitely packet sniffing. Not sure how much that'll increase latency.

[RedSpark]

Not to set off a powder keg- but.

 

So with the network optimization in place on the new $60 plan. Does that mean everything is going through a proxy service Like cricket does?

 

 

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Here's how it works.

[Arysyn]

Sprint has officially announced Unlimited Freedom Premium, which can be added on a per-line basis for $20/month. As the press release says, some people don't mind "mobile optimization" for certain content based on their usage habits, while others do.

 

Two Lines at $140 per month, wow!

 

Two lines of unlimited data with AT&T is that exact rate, well with subscription to at least a $20 monthly television package, but with AT&T there are easy ways of getting that money back through discounts and gift cards. Even if AT&T works out to be a tiny bit more, you're getting a much better network in most places and television service to go with it. No offense to Sprint by this, but that is the way of things currently with its network versus AT&T. Plus, if people are willing to spend some time getting the Freelancers Union (thanks again to gusherb for the information!), people can save 22% off of that, which pretty much pays for the television service, in terms of cost, plus a little more beyond that.

 

At one line, Sprint's offer still is a much better deal than T-Mobile, and its good for that reason, plus by Sprint not giving such a steep second line discount, which means more fairness to those just needing individual lines, that is good too. However, I'm thinking Sprint could have made this plan a bit better in general, despite being better and more fair of a rate than what T-Mobile is doing. Something akin to $55 non-premium and $75 premium - 1 line, then $95 non-premium and $120 premium - 2 lines.

 

Overall though, I like where this is going regarding the plan concept here, just the pricing could be better still. Although, neither Sprint nor T-Mobile has a better deal than the AT&T unlimited plan, in my opinion. I wonder if Verizon is going to be forced to respond somehow to this, as their new data bucket plans, along with AT&T's, don't even compare in value to Sprint and T-Mobile - more than ever at this point with the new plans.

[Johnner1999]

Here's how it works.

Thanks

 

So it's basically a more open version of Binge On.

 

 

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[utiz4321]

Two Lines at $140 per month, wow!

 

Two lines of unlimited data with AT&T is that exact rate, well with subscription to at least a $20 monthly television package, but with AT&T there are easy ways of getting that money back through discounts and gift cards. Even if AT&T works out to be a tiny bit more, you're getting a much better network in most places and television service to go with it. No offense to Sprint by this, but that is the way of things currently with its network versus AT&T. Plus, if people are willing to spend some time getting the Freelancers Union (thanks again to gusherb for the information!), people can save 22% off of that, which pretty much pays for the television service, in terms of cost, plus a little more beyond that.

 

At one line, Sprint's offer still is a much better deal than T-Mobile, and its good for that reason, plus by Sprint not giving such a steep second line discount, which means more fairness to those just needing individual lines, that is good too. However, I'm thinking Sprint could have made this plan a bit better in general, despite being better and more fair of a rate than what T-Mobile is doing. Something akin to $55 non-premium and $75 premium - 1 line, then $95 non-premium and $120 premium - 2 lines.

 

Overall though, I like where this is going regarding the plan concept here, just the pricing could be better still. Although, neither Sprint nor T-Mobile has a better deal than the AT&T unlimited plan, in my opinion. I wonder if Verizon is going to be forced to respond somehow to this, as their new data bucket plans, along with AT&T's, don't even compare in value to Sprint and T-Mobile - more than ever at this point with the new plans.

AT&T unlimited plan isn't 140. It is 140 plus uverse or Dtv. You can do a simple price comparison of the two plans. Plus any discount applies to the 60 data cost. 22 percent of that would 19.20, I don't know of a tv plan that almost covers.

 

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[Johnner1999]

AT&T unlimited plan isn't 140. It is 140 plus uverse or Dtv. You can do a simple price comparison of the two plans.

 

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He mentioned that

 

 

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[Arysyn]

I forgot to mention in my last reply Sprint has the pricing information on the AT&T Unlimited Plan incorrect. The beginning cost is $20 monthly for television service, not $50 monthly, but you do have to negotiate a bit to get the beginning cost, which with Uverse, is called the U-basic plan. Still, once factoring in negotiated discounts, gift cards for the bundling, you get a rate just slightly higher than Sprint's, but with no speed restrictions, and again if someone gets the Freelancer's Union membership, that takes the price down 22%, which is under Sprint's rate.

 

Definitely going in the right direction though.

[dnicekid]

I forgot to mention in my last reply Sprint has the pricing information on the AT&T Unlimited Plan incorrect. The beginning cost is $20 monthly for television service, not $50 monthly, but you do have to negotiate a bit to get the beginning cost, which with Uverse, is called the U-basic plan. Still, once factoring in negotiated discounts, gift cards for the bundling, you get a rate just slightly higher than Sprint's, but with no speed restrictions, and again if someone gets the Freelancer's Union membership, that takes the price down 22%, which is under Sprint's rate.

 

Definitely going in the right direction though.

I thought sprint allowed a $5 corporate discount on these plans

And 5gb of hotspot?? Does att really offer 22% of ul bundle???

[Arysyn]

I thought sprint allowed a $5 corporate discount on these plans

And 5gb of hotspot?? Does att really offer 22% of ul bundle???

 

I'm not sure about discounts on Sprint, though if a business offers it, then great. Discounts on wireless service are good to have.

 

The 22% off discount on AT&T service I found out about through S4GRU member gusherb, who mentioned it here somewhere on the forums some time ago. In order to get the discount, there is an organization online called the Freelancers Union, The membership is free and it gives members a wide variety of discounts to many different services, including AT&T.

[Arysyn]

This is the direct link to the Freelancers Union AT&T discount page :

 

https://www.freelancersunion.org/discounts/detail/ATT

[trug]

Here's how it works.

What if providers don't "work with Sprint to identify respective traffic keys" and just send encrypted data streams?  Since the plans are unlimited won't that mean that people just get unlimited full speed video streaming?

[Deval]

That AT&T requirement for DTV is huge for people like myself who live in NYC and can't get satellite TV, since that drives the purchase consideration.

 

If I had a house it would look appealing, otherwise it's not a fair comparison. 

[Ascertion]

This is the direct link to the Freelancers Union AT&T discount page :

 

https://www.freelancersunion.org/discounts/detail/ATT

Just curious...is this off the entire plan or just a certain portion?