Network Vision Explained
#41
Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:00 AM
To be honest, I'm pretty happy with my 3G service, and I'm more interested in having LTE replace my home DSL (7 Mbps down, peaks around 12 Mbps). Close, but not enough, for HD video streaming. I'd gladly pay for a solution for that.
I haven't been trying to follow any pricing, but I don't expect LTE to be tiered, any more than WiMax was, so I'm otherwise interested just to know what to expect with new handsets, at first. I see people posting LTE SpeedNet test results on Verizon and I'm more than skeptical of the values reported, and far from able to see the point for a phone.
In any case, I expect throughput to decrease as load increases, and if we're pariticipating (by paying our monthly subscriptions) in a buildout that will ensure high-speed downloads and good mobile service no matter where I travel in the US, I am more than all for that.
#42
Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:58 AM
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#43
Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:33 PM
He might be using Sprint WiMax unless WiMax wasn't deployed in San Antonio. If that is the case, then he found a way to spoof his IP address to make it look like Sprint. Those speeds are too good to be true. Someone find that phony and beat him up for this.
Not Wimax as their ip addresses are not under sprint I'm pretty sure...
To be honest after checking the ip to be in sprints range and then seeing his other videos I just chalked it up to good trickery on his part and dismissed the whole thing...seriously, watch some of his other videos....the guy is a nut.
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#44
Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:43 PM
...seriously, watch some of his other videos....the guy is a nut.
lol. No kidding, and that's putting it lightly.. turn the vol up and listening to him explains it all.
#45
Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:44 PM
lol. No kidding, and that's putting it lightly.. turn the vol up and listening to him explains it all.
The video of the fastest internet or whatever he titled it was a trip to watch.
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#46
Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:47 PM
The video of the fastest internet or whatever he titled it was a trip to watch.
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and pr0n galore... should really close some windows and history before posting videos like that.
#47
Posted 16 April 2012 - 03:11 PM
...seriously, watch some of his other videos....
Yeah. No. Gonna take a pass on that.
#48
Posted 16 April 2012 - 04:01 PM
Yeah. No. Gonna take a pass on that.
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I'll pass too. He was too crazy in the one that was linked here.
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#49
Posted 16 April 2012 - 06:44 PM
I'll pass too. He was too crazy in the one that was linked here.
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I think I linked to that one two.... dang.
#50
Posted 21 May 2012 - 03:35 PM
#51
Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:58 AM
I'm not going to lie, snot flew out of my nose at 1:02.Check out this Sprint Network Vision Video. It is really interesting to watch.
Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ejv9Ud9Uw
#52
Posted 22 May 2012 - 12:13 PM
I'm not going to lie, snot flew out of my nose at 1:02.
You'd be surprised what iDEN customers have complained about in terms of their devices.
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#53
Posted 22 May 2012 - 01:02 PM
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#54
Posted 22 May 2012 - 02:16 PM
I'm not going to lie, snot flew out of my nose at 1:02.
Okay I did lie a little bit.. Sorry, I was looking at how much time was left in the video. It was around :46 when the snot rocket launched.You'd be surprised what iDEN customers have complained about in terms of their devices.
And Floridaland.looool. Stop paying for internal videos to be produced and finish Chicagoland.
#55
Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:10 PM
Hurry up to the biggest and best city in the US please
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#56
Posted 31 May 2012 - 07:46 AM
2- iden footprint is 30% bigger than CDMA, nationwide ... they shutdown the map in sprint.com, still up in boostmobile.com
As it is right now they are upgrading current CDMA cells to network vision, making it all CDMA 800/1900 AND LTE all together , while shutting down iDEN cell sites.... therefore making the footprint 30 % smaller, leaving entire towns without one wireless competitor, FCC must be informed about this... soon..
No wonder Mr Hesse is informing investors in advance of the huge amount of current iden suscriber churn... He didn't mentioned, many cannot be migrated to direct connect even if they wanted to... THERE WON'T BE NATIVE CDMA COVERAGE...
Do you guys have any different information ?
#57
Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:12 AM
Sprint needs to explain better how Sprint network vision project will affect their customers... Prepaid customers in particular boost mobile iden customers...and those sprint customers to be kick out because of excessive roaming as they leave complete citie.. offnetwork... ie. Bainbridge, Georgia.. Decatur County. Population 30,000
2- iden footprint is 30% bigger than CDMA, nationwide ... they shutdown the map in sprint.com, still up in boostmobile.com
As it is right now they are upgrading current CDMA cells to network vision, making it all CDMA 800/1900 AND LTE all together , while shutting down iDEN cell sites.... therefore making the footprint 30 % smaller, leaving entire towns without one wireless competitor, FCC must be informed about this... soon..
No wonder Mr Hesse is informing investors in advance of the huge amount of current iden suscriber churn... He didn't mentioned, many cannot be migrated to direct connect even if they wanted to... THERE WON'T BE NATIVE CDMA COVERAGE...
Do you guys have any different information ?
The FCC is well aware. Sprint is not in violation of any FCC policies with how it is using 800 SMR spectrum. In fact, the FCC is bending over backwards to help Sprint reuse the spectrum. The FCC considers Sprint's revised 800 footprint with CDMA and LTE to be a much better use than a dying technology like iDEN, even with a greater coverage area. And I think most of the world agrees with that.
Likely only affected customers would disagree. However, would it be helpful for you to continue to have useless 2G iDEN in these areas indefinitely? Not likely.
Also, the 30% greater coverage you reference is in square miles, not in customers. The last estimate I did was the Nextel only coverage areas only had two million people in them. And how many of these people are iDEN subscribers? Very small. Maybe 50,000?
I have been critical of Sprint in the past on this subject. I believe Sprint could service all of the current iDEN coverage areas with 1,000 CDMA/LTE sites. And they should keep these. However, Sprint's decision here is not personal, its financial. They cannot afford a Network Vision scope larger than they have committed to now. And that leaves me disappointed. However, it is an informed and intelligent decision. I just disagree with it.
Complaining to the FCC now is pointless. They have approved Sprint's 800 plans in two decisions this year. There are no hurdles left. If anything, the FCC have been accomplices. The FCC could have made the condition that they cannot reduce 800 coverage as a condition of approval. Yet, they didn't. Probably because they can see Sprint cannot afford to do it.
One silver lining to all of this is that once Network Vision is complete, Sprint should start returning toward profitability. And network expansion will start to reoccur again. Especially in areas with high roaming usage.
If you live in an area where you will lose iDEN service, but never regain CDMA/LTE service, then Sprint is not going to be the carrier for you. Sprint is allowing iDEN customers to leave ETF free. I can understand your frustrations, as I would not want to lose Sprint service either. And, by my quick calculations, about 50k customers out of Sprint's 50M+ are in your situation.
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#58
Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:39 AM
The FCC is well aware. Sprint is not in violation of any FCC policies with how it is using 800 SMR spectrum. In fact, the FCC is bending over backwards to help Sprint reuse the spectrum. The FCC considers Sprint's revised 800 footprint with CDMA and LTE to be a much better use than a dying technology like iDEN, even with a greater coverage area. And I think most of the world agrees with that.
Likely only affected customers would disagree. However, would it be helpful for you to continue to have useless 2G iDEN in these areas indefinitely? Not likely.
Also, the 30% greater coverage you reference is in square miles, not in customers. The last estimate I did was the Nextel only coverage areas only had two million people in them. And how many of these people are iDEN subscribers? Very small. Maybe 50,000?
I have been critical of Sprint in the past on this subject. I believe Sprint could service all of the current iDEN coverage areas with 1,000 CDMA/LTE sites. And they should keep these. However, Sprint's decision here is not personal, its financial. They cannot afford a Network Vision scope larger than they have committed to now. And that leaves me disappointed. However, it is an informed and intelligent decision. I just disagree with it.
Complaining to the FCC now is pointless. They have approved Sprint's 800 plans in two decisions this year. There are no hurdles left. If anything, the FCC have been accomplices. The FCC could have made the condition that they cannot reduce 800 coverage as a condition of approval. Yet, they didn't. Probably because they can see Sprint cannot afford to do it.
One silver lining to all of this is that once Network Vision is complete, Sprint should start returning toward profitability. And network expansion will start to reoccur again. Especially in areas with high roaming usage.
If you live in an area where you will lose iDEN service, but never regain CDMA/LTE service, then Sprint is not going to be the carrier for you. Sprint is allowing iDEN customers to leave ETF free. I can understand your frustrations, as I would not want to lose Sprint service either. And, by my quick calculations, about 50k customers out of Sprint's 50M+ are in your situation.
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Thanks for the reply.. I'm not complaining about the iDEN shutdown , Not replacing it , it's a different story, 1 competitor less in thousands of small towns , less competition, higher prices, , so how come SPRINT does not inform customers, communities, cities, about this... ? what cities and towns they are abandoning ?
#59
Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:46 AM
Sprint needs to explain better how Sprint network vision project will affect their customers... Prepaid customers in particular boost mobile iden customers...and those sprint customers to be kick out because of excessive roaming as they leave complete citie.. offnetwork... ie. Bainbridge, Georgia.. Decatur County. Population 30,000
2- iden footprint is 30% bigger than CDMA, nationwide ... they shutdown the map in sprint.com, still up in boostmobile.com
As it is right now they are upgrading current CDMA cells to network vision, making it all CDMA 800/1900 AND LTE all together , while shutting down iDEN cell sites.... therefore making the footprint 30 % smaller, leaving entire towns without one wireless competitor, FCC must be informed about this... soon..
No wonder Mr Hesse is informing investors in advance of the huge amount of current iden suscriber churn... He didn't mentioned, many cannot be migrated to direct connect even if they wanted to... THERE WON'T BE NATIVE CDMA COVERAGE...
Do you guys have any different information ?
You can read more about the shutdown of the Nextel iDEN Network at http://nextelnetwork.sprint.com and http://newsroom.spri...article_id=2296.
Actually you can still view the Nextel iDEN Coverage Map at http://coverage.sprint.com/IMPACT.jsp? and under Direct Connect, select Nextel.
#60
Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:48 AM
Thanks for the reply.. I'm not complaining about the iDEN shutdown , Not replacing it , it's a different story, 1 competitor less in thousands of small towns , less competition, higher prices, , so how come SPRINT does not inform customers, communities, cities, about this... ? what cities and towns they are abandoning ?
Sprint has been saying they are completely shutting down the iDEN network for a few years now. All iDEN customers are affected and need to find other service. Sprint CDMA is just one option. And for 50,000 customers, it wont be an option at all.
If you want to see which communities will not have the option of commuting to Sprint CDMA service, you can compare the iDEN coverage maps to the CDMA coverage maps.
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