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Good catch! I meant 115932/119932. Edited my original post I've noticed the same thing lately and have just assumed that they're skipping it now because they're finally able to deploy mmWave small cells.
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New T-Mobile site went live earlier this year at 5 W 86th St, just off of Central Park. It's not a Sprint conversion so I hope this means more new builds are gonna stop popping up in areas that need coverage the most. — — — — — Also spotted a unicorn (mapped a new AT&T site) in Greenpoint. It's eNB ID 115932/119932. I spotted the permit a super long time ago but it looks like it finally went live earlier this month. That makes 5 new AT&T sites in Brooklyn in the past 2 years. — — — — — Noticed that I touched a Sprint conversion site while mapping today. It has been live since at least December and is already on the keep site map. Sprint eNB 74215 -> T-Mobile gNB 1371628 Located at: 40.767977371545726, -73.96146218469505 Still a bunch more we've found that don't have any decommission permits submitted yet. — — — — — Adding a bunch of gig+ sites I haven't reported yet. eNB 44076 Located at 40.72513188568983, -73.95130108843207 eNB 44110 Located at 40.78671665921442, -73.97831748836762 eNB 47002 Located at 40.71818871096234, -73.97553242675835 eNB 48023 Located at 40.70014576627346, -73.95511802661758 eNB 129912/130917 Located at 40.71727220756978, -73.95652417532955 eNB 875917 Located at 40.72274052431834, -73.84403351784677 eNB 49849 Located at 40.72181611705532, -73.86627810663067
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Here in NYC I don’t think NextWave even has any clients. By my count they only have about two dozen sites deployed across the entire city. It’s pretty much a network only put up to try to pressure T-Mobile into buying them by forcing T-Mobile to switch their n41 configuration from 140MHz to 80MHz over a growing portion of the city. That’s not competitive with Verizon who has 160MHz citywide. I hope we get to the point soon where T-Mobile decides it’s worth it to just buy out NextWave, take over their leases, and finally have a full 190MHz across the city.
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NextWave is complaining about interference from T-Mobile's network again. It's super annoying considering the area where T-Mobile operates a full 150MHz of BRS/EBS shrank significantly in late 2023. In a place as dense as NYC, have two operators with such split holdings of this band doesn't make sense. Interference seems nearly inevitable. Next Wave has only submitted permits for 22 sites so far, they honestly should just sell. https://www.lightreading.com/5g/redzone-nextwave-also-complain-of-interference-from-t-mobile-s-5g
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Yeah they definitely have 160MHz live but no idea if SCP reports properly. I only have Cellmapper on my Android device and only map AT&T and T-Mobile at the moment. Also no standalone on Verizon here.
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There's a permit for a new 47 story building at 205 Montague St in Downtown Brooklyn. The problem is that T-Mobile eNB 48352 is on the building next door and this new building will block two out of 3 sectors of the site. For reference, the new building will be roughly as tall as 16 Court St which is right across the street. This site is the primary site covering Cadman Plaza so I wonder what the plan is. Will they just try to change sector placement, move to a different building, or will this just speed up the conversion of the Sprint site at 25 Monroe Place?
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Official Tmobile-Sprint merger discussion thread
Paynefanbro replied to Nextel49's topic in T-Mobile Merger/5G NR Deployment
I'm confused. The screenshot in the post shows a 90MHz secondary carrier and a 20MHz n25 carrier, not a third 10MHz n41 carrier. -
Network Vision/LTE - Central and South Jersey Markets
Paynefanbro replied to mrradic's topic in Markets
Mapped a bit of Perth Amboy since it seemed undermapped on Cellmapper. There are no Sprint conversions in the city however I did map a new build and one older site that had never been mapped before. The part that stood out to me while mapping the city is T-Mobile's site density in comparison to AT&T specifically since those are the two networks that I map. T-Mobile has 10 sites within city limits in comparison to AT&T's 4 sites. AT&T still performs great there thanks to their combo of C-band and DoD spectrum. I got max speeds of about 650Mbps right under a site but those speeds quickly drop off the farther you go from the site. In some parts of the city I couldn't get any more than ~40Mbps on AT&T because I was at the edge of the C-band cell and I'm certain most of the throughput was coming from the lowband I was aggregating with. T-Mobile on the other hand couldn't get the peak speeds that AT&T had because of NextWave encumbering them. They only have 40+40 n41 but had much more consistent 300-400Mbps speeds virtually everywhere I went and a much stronger signal. The only area where they struggled in terms of speed was around Five Corners where T-Mobile has a site on top of the Perth Amboy National Bank Building but it hasn't been upgraded just yet. They only have n71 and n25 on that site. I got speeds of about 150-200Mbps under that site which isn't bad but it's also the busiest area of the city so they definitely could use the capacity. -
T-Mobile eliminated the 10MHz Band 41 carrier in Suffolk County and is now running 150MHz n41. Here's a screenshot of the 50MHz second carrier. I'm guessing it'll make its way west toward NYC in the coming weeks.
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Following up on this. I just went up to City Island and it looks like T-Mobile is giving them the Broad Channel treatment by adding a bunch of small cells throughout the island. I mapped three new ones today bringing them to a total of seven small cells. It's still not a replacement for actual macros though. They need to join Verizon and AT&T in adding at least one more site closer to the north end of the island. Also snapped a pic of the upgraded site. Gone is the old split sector antenna they had on the east facing sector. — — — — — I mapped a recently upgraded site in Cobble Hill earlier and noticed that the gNB IDs for n41 and n25/71 are separated by two. Maybe it's a sneak peak into the numbering scheme going forward? gNB ID 1089448 is n41 and 1089450 is n25/71. Maybe n66 or n77 will be given 1089449.
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New AT&T speed record for me. I encountered an AT&T site with upgraded backhaul in Crown Heights. I'm certain I can hit 1Gbps on this site off-peak.
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Dish Network/Boost Mobile cell/5G buildout thread
Paynefanbro replied to PythonFanPA's topic in General Topics
Dish marks 5G drive test milestone, validating its network speeds https://www.fiercewireless.com/5g/dish-marks-5g-drive-test-milestone And yet barely anyone can use it. That's probably the only reason why they're able to meet these network speed milestones. -
T-Mobile finally got a permit to decommission their old Band 66 site at 1 Carlton Ave across the street from the Brooklyn Navy Yard. It hasn't been active for a few months now so it's no surprise really. https://maps.app.goo.gl/mKapEnxkPdJuRLC96 Curious to see if they'll join move to another building or if they're content with just not having a site in that area. — — — — — For the folks that travel on the Grand Central Parkway, T-Mobile finally upgraded the site on top of Creedmoor Psychiatric Center, finally filling in that gap of weaker n41 coverage on the highway. I was wondering when they would get to this one. Really felt like it was never going to happen. — — — — — T-Mobile's only site on City Island also got upgraded just in time for the spring crowds. I haven't actually seen the site or been there to map but I was in Sands Point last weekend and noticed that I connected to a new Band 12 eNB that shared PCIs with the City Island site in an area where I used to connect to that weird old split sector Band 66 antenna.
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When I'm near the mini-macros performance is fine. They're pretty much like high powered small cells so they do have a place in the network. However in some areas T-Mobile has been using them instead of normal macros which introduces a ton of problems. They have terrible range, most can't cover more than a block, they're often 2x2MIMO as opposed to 4x4MIMO+ that you get on traditional macros, they take forever to upgrade because antenna manufacturers typically have trouble getting the newest technologies in a smaller form factor (at least initially), and more often than not they're 2-sector because they get installed on the facade at the corner of a building so they only provide coverage in two directions. A bunch of us in this thread have found some mini-macro sites that have been upgraded to NR but they are few and far between. The majority of them are still LTE only, some with Band 2/66 only and others with Band 2/12/66. The good news is, T-Mobile seems to be reevaluating their usefulness and decommissioning or converting them to full macros where possible. A good example of this is T-Mobile eNB 40003 which I posted a while back. Instead of just upgrading the small antennas, they moved to the roof of the building, installed regular antennas, and installed a third sector which has boosted coverage significantly.
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Looks like T-Mobile learned their lesson and is starting to wipe out those mini-macro sites with the antennas on the facade of buildings. Two permits in late February alone. These sites have already been turned off, the antennas just haven't been removed yet. The areas they are in are better served by the full macros/Sprint conversions in the area so it's nothing lost. The two sites are at: 515 Madison Ave, New York, NY 10022 222 Park Ave S, New York, NY 10003 Also recently mapped a new T-Mobile site (non-conversion) in Manhattan at 810 Broadway, New York, NY 10003. Looks like it was first mapped last November. This site replace one that used to be on 797 Broadway before that building got demolished.
