RedSpark Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Yes. You're right about this. Sprint was likely asking Apple for HPUE as early as 2015. As for why Apple didn't include it, Apple has to give upgraders a reason to upgrade again. That's just what they do. It happened with the lack of Band 41 on the iPhone 5s/5c. So we'll likely see HPUE and 4x4 MIMO on next year's iPhones. T-Mobile will also get 600 MHz support... and the Apple people will upgrade as expected. I'm curious about the time on LTE and time on Band 41 test data for the iPhone 7/8/X vs an HPUE device like the S8 on Sprint. If there's not an appreciable difference between these figures, we're not missing out on as much as it seems perhaps. Perhaps this be the last year for Qualcomm Modems in iPhones? Intel has this: https://www.pcmag.com/news/351878/intels-7560-modem-could-push-next-iphone-to-1gbps Or perhaps we see a Qualcomm x20 in next year's models alongside it....again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dean Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 1 hour ago, WiWavelength said: No, you are playing fast and loose (sidenote: Steve Dean, see the correct use of the word "loose") with the timeline. Sprint and 3GPP did not hatch HPUE out of thin air in December 2016. It was in the pipeline prior to then, a known commodity. Apple could have planned accordingly. LG and Samsung certainly did on handsets released months before the 2017 iPhone cohort. The most accurate thing you said is your final statement: "just Apple being Apple." The iPhone historically has been a generation behind in the latest RF technology. And until Apple settles its kerfuffle with Qualcomm or Intel gets its modem technology up to speed -- neither of which appears imminent -- iPhone will continue to be behind, even intentionally so. AJ Sorry AJ. Meant to type lose. Typing and working at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 "Loose" = "lose" is an Internet pandemic. Sad. AJ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dean Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 15 hours ago, WiWavelength said: "Loose" = "lose" is an Internet pandemic. Sad. AJ So "irregardless" could be an epidemic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 20 hours ago, RedSpark said: I'm curious about the time on LTE and time on Band 41 test data for the iPhone 7/8/X vs an HPUE device like the S8 on Sprint. This is what I would want to see. Personally I simply don't see a difference between HPUE and a phone that does not have it. If there is a difference it's not very big and probably won't make much of a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexgencpu Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 5 hours ago, Terrell352 said: This is what I would want to see. Personally I simply don't see a difference between HPUE and a phone that does not have it. If there is a difference it's not very big and probably won't make much of a difference. I advice against using the GS8 as an example. Moto Z2 is considerably better at holding a signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Steve Dean said: So "irregardless" could be an epidemic? "Irregardless" has been a problem regardless of medium, long before the Web existed. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I used to have an irregardless problem. But I never did unthaw my meat, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I could care less about your problems, Robert. AJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmachine Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 This thread is becoming inflammable, but definitely not flammable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic13 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Can't forget "defiantly", though autocorrect is partly to blame for that one. I'm thinking I'll stick with my 6S+ for now, as much as I'd like to upgrade. I had the 4S without LTE, the 5S without B41, and I'm not sure if the 6S cycle missed anything important. But I don't want another new (and expensive) device that feels a generation behind in terms of wireless tech. I'm not too keen on the FaceID thing, I likely wouldn't use it. And the lack of a headphone jack is something I'd have to get used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 12 hours ago, Sonic13 said: Can't forget "defiantly", though autocorrect is partly to blame for that one. I'm thinking I'll stick with my 6S+ for now, as much as I'd like to upgrade. I had the 4S without LTE, the 5S without B41, and I'm not sure if the 6S cycle missed anything important. But I don't want another new (and expensive) device that feels a generation behind in terms of wireless tech. I'm not too keen on the FaceID thing, I likely wouldn't use it. And the lack of a headphone jack is something I'd have to get used to. The iPhone 6/6 Plus added Band 41. The 6S/6S Plus support 2CA. Added Band 12. The 7/7 Plus supported 2CA at first and then received an OTA update to enable 3CA support. Qualcomm X12 Modem, but detuned to match Intel Modem in other model. The 8/8 Plus support 3CA. Qualcomm X16 Modem, but detuned to match Intel Modem in other model. Also, no HPUE and no 4x4 MIMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Gimped. The word is gimped. Apple gimped the Qualcomm baseband modem to maintain parity with the Intel baseband modem. Bring out the gimped modem. Gimped modem's sleeping. Well, I guess you're gonna have to go wake it up now, won't you? AJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tajustin95 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Did Sprint release 4X4 or 256 QAM on their network yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 5 hours ago, WiWavelength said: Gimped. The word is gimped. Apple gimped the Qualcomm baseband modem to maintain parity with the Intel baseband modem. Bring out the gimped modem. Gimped modem's sleeping. Well, I guess you're gonna have to go wake it up now, won't you? AJ Haha! Nice. So next year's iPhone could either contain a gimped-as-necessary Qualcomm X20 to match whatever Intel is offering at that point, most likely the Intel 7560... or if Apple decides to drop Qualcomm altogether... then Intel for everybody I guess... "Gigabit Class", HPUE (perhaps), and 4x4 MIMO.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Dean Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 On 9/17/2017 at 0:12 AM, WiWavelength said: Gimped. The word is gimped. Apple gimped the Qualcomm baseband modem to maintain parity with the Intel baseband modem. Bring out the gimped modem. Gimped modem's sleeping. Well, I guess you're gonna have to go wake it up now, won't you? AJ Heck, since I have been butchering the English language, even with spell check, we can substitute gimped with gumped in this case since you do not know what modem you will receive in the phone: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Steve Dean said: Heck, since I have been butchering the English language, even with spell check, we can substitute gimped with gumped in this case since you do not know what modem you will receive in the phone: The Gimp got gumped at the 1994 Academy Awards. AJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrph Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Has there been any info as to the RF on the 8/8+ and X? I wonder if its the same/ better or worse than last years iPhones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 hours ago, derrph said: Has there been any info as to the RF on the 8/8+ and X? I wonder if its the same/ better or worse than last years iPhones. I wonder if the new glass back has any impact on antenna performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrph Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, RedSpark said: I wonder if the new glass back has any impact on antenna performance. I hope so and for the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiseGuy321 Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 Does anyone have an Apple Watch with LTE? Can you make calls using Sprint's network? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 4 minutes ago, WiseGuy321 said: Does anyone have an Apple Watch with LTE? Can you make calls using Sprint's network? I myself don't, but the answer is yes based on everything I've read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 47 minutes ago, WiseGuy321 said: Does anyone have an Apple Watch with LTE? Can you make calls using Sprint's network? I don’t have an Apple Watch, but to answer your question, yes you can make calls over Sprint’s network. Calls are VoIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Don't forget our iPhone Progressive Raffle: http://s4gru.com/index.php?/forums/topic/7762-enter-to-win-a-new-iphone-8-or-maybe-iphone-x-and-help-support-s4gru/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnner1999 Posted October 4, 2017 Share Posted October 4, 2017 Has anyone with an iPhone 8 - noticed improvement with RF? Seeing that its now glass backed vs metal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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