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Moto X 2014 (was "Motorola IHDT56QA1")


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Band 7. Not sure what operators use it but certainly none around here. And there can't be that many that use both 7 and 17.
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Band 7. Not sure what operators use it but certainly none around here. And there can't be that many that use both 7 and 17.

 

Blame Canada.

 

AJ

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What do you guys think? Truth or they just dont know anything about it?

 

 

Jessica: Hi, I’m a live Sprint chat specialist. Would you like any help today?
You: Yes , Im unable to find the new moto x You: when is it coming to sprint ?
Jessica: I'm glad to assist you with our phones.
Jessica: This device is coming soon! A specific release date has not yet been announced, but please feel free to visit our Newsroom atNewsroom.Sprint.com to stay up-to-date on the latest release information.
You: Great! You: Im glad to hear that about the New Moto X
Jessica: Are there any other questions I may assist you with?
Jessica: You're welcome. Jessica: Are there any other questions I may assist you with?
You: that would be all, thanks again

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What do you guys think? Truth or they just dont know anything about it?

 

 

Jessica: Hi, I’m a live Sprint chat specialist. Would you like any help today?

You: Yes , Im unable to find the new moto x You: when is it coming to sprint ?

Jessica: I'm glad to assist you with our phones.

Jessica: This device is coming soon! A specific release date has not yet been announced, but please feel free to visit our Newsroom atNewsroom.Sprint.com to stay up-to-date on the latest release information.

You: Great! You: Im glad to hear that about the New Moto X

Jessica: Are there any other questions I may assist you with?

Jessica: You're welcome. Jessica: Are there any other questions I may assist you with?

You: that would be all, thanks again

It's hard to say. Last we heard, Sprint and Motorola stated that the 2014 Moto X won't be coming to Sprint.

 

 

Sent from Josh's iPhone 6+ using Tapatalk

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What do you guys think? Truth or they just dont know anything about it?

 

 

Jessica: Hi, I’m a live Sprint chat specialist. Would you like any help today?

You: Yes , Im unable to find the new moto x You: when is it coming to sprint ?

Jessica: I'm glad to assist you with our phones.

Jessica: This device is coming soon! A specific release date has not yet been announced, but please feel free to visit our Newsroom atNewsroom.Sprint.com to stay up-to-date on the latest release information.

You: Great! You: Im glad to hear that about the New Moto X

Jessica: Are there any other questions I may assist you with?

Jessica: You're welcome. Jessica: Are there any other questions I may assist you with?

You: that would be all, thanks again

That's the answer they gave me when I contact them about the nexus 6. I believe that rep has the two mixed up.

 

Sent from my Nexus 5

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Maybe this opens up the possibility of white listing this device on Sprint considering they basically are a Sprint MVNO.

 

Hmmmm...  If this somehow does make its way to Sprint then I would be grabbing this over the N6 I think...  Interesting. 

 

Not going to get my hopes up, but maybe I'll hold onto my iPhone 6 a while longer.

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I think AJ may have been onto something with his comment located in the wall post:

 

 



No, it is not a typographical error.

 

The LTE band table is just an illustration and comes from the Part 22/24/27 test documents.  In FCC regulations, those three parts cover Cellular 850 MHz, PCS 1900 MHz, AWS-1 1700+2100 MHz, Lower 700 MHz, and BRS/EBS 2600 MHz.

 

Note the absence of SMR 800 MHz, which falls under Part 90.  For that reason, band 26 typically has two sets of test results -- the Cellular 850 MHz segment under Part 22 and the SMR 800 MHz segment under Part 90.  The former is depicted in the aforementioned LTE band table.

 

But I found something interesting this morning.  I checked the separate Part 90 test and noticed that the results were for band class 10 CDMA2000 only.  In other words, this 2014 Moto X variant was not tested for the SMR segment of band 26, or those test results were not submitted to the FCC.  And there is possibly the smoking gun -- the reason why this variant is reportedly not headed to Sprint.

 

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AJ

 

I went to Republic Wireless' site and went to the technical specs comparison between the Moto X 1st gen and 2 gen.  Attached I have a screenshot showing the difference in the network specs.  Long story short, it looks like CDMA in the SMR 800 range isn't supported:

 

motox.PNG

 

Further more, if you look at the page with just the Moto X 2nd gen specs it shows:

 

motox2.PNG

 

so it looks like it would be the "Sprint" variant that they are using - if it ever was released to Sprint that is.

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I think AJ may have been onto something with his comment located in the wall post:

 

No, probably not.  As I recall, I dug deeper and ultimately found the Part 90 SMR portion of the band 26 test results.  For some strange reason, they were not disclosed right away but buried dozens, if not hundreds of pages into the FCC OET filing.

 

AJ

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If someone is able to get the new Moto X whitelisted on Sprint, I would consider picking one of these up to replace my Nexus 5.  I just can't get excited about the N6.

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According to a (supposed) Republic Wireless employee, they are in fact using the IHDT56QA3

 variant.  He said the model number was XT1094.

 

http://www.reddit.com/r/republicwireless/comments/2nhcyd/new_moto_x_coming_to_republic/cmdqs7p?context=10000

 

S4GRU staff could be incorrect, but that is not the model number we projected.  We paired the FCC ID IHDT56QA3 with the model number XT1092.  I would not be surprised if Republic is using a regional operator variant, not the originally expected Sprint variant.

 

AJ

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S4GRU staff could be incorrect, but that is not the model number we projected.  We paired the FCC ID IHDT56QA3 with the model number XT1092.  I would not be surprised if Republic is using a regional operator variant, not the originally expected Sprint variant.

 

AJ

 

Out of curiosity, how did you arrive at XT1092 as the model number?  I saw that mentioned in the S4GRU article, but I couldn't find any other evidence of that model number corresponding to IHDT56QA3 online.  Is there some system/scheme involved for mapping them?

 

Edit: Also, wouldn't it be possible that they're still using IHDT56QA3, but they just gave it a new model number (XT1094) to reflect the fact that Republic Wireless-specific firmware is used?

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Out of curiosity, how did you arrive at XT1092 as the model number?

 

Honestly, I do not recall how we came to that determination.  It was several months ago, and staff routinely has to wade through MBs or even GBs of info.  We are correct about 95 percent of the time, but we may not be correct this time.

 

AJ

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According to the Moto X website, the US Cellular Version is compatible with Sprint's Band 25 and CDMA.

 

USC (XT1093):

GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1800, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25)

 

https://www.motorola.com/us/motomaker?pid=FLEXR2#moto-x+1-story-specs

 

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So the republic wireless phone would be unable to use any of the 800 band technology and Can only use the 1900

 

Networks

WiFi: 802.11a/b/g/n/ac, 2.4GHz/5GHz

Cellular (Sprint): CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz), 4G LTE (B12, B25, B26, B41)

 

Acoording to Tech Specs from WR.

 

https://community.republicwireless.com/docs/DOC-2138

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