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"Magical Mystery Phone Tour"

Posted by WiWavelength , in Author: Josh McDaniel 08 April 2013 · 15,460 views

Sprint Samsung SPH-L500 mid-range FCC OET
"Magical Mystery Phone Tour" by Josh McDaniel
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On April 5, the mysterious Samsung SPH-L500 passed thru the FCC OET (Office of Engineering and Technology), indicating that it is now authorized for use in the US on the Sprint network. S4GRU can report only the details that are currently available, but we will update the article as more info emerges.

The phone measures roughly 5.24 inches tall by 2.68 inches wide, making it slightly smaller than the Galaxy S3 and S4 and slightly larger than the Galaxy S3 mini that it was originally rumored to be based off of, and comes with a 1.4 GHz dual core processor. As was previously noted from the Bluetooth SIG report in November, this phone has support for Bluetooth 4.0 and the following profiles: HFP1.5, HSP, OPP, A2DP, AVRCP, GAVDP, PAN, PBAP, HID, and MAP.

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As you can see from the antenna diagram, CDMA1X and EVDO share the same antenna path, so SVDO is not possible, but SVLTE is possible. The phone also supports simultaneous LTE and Wi- Fi tether on 2.4 GHz, but not on 5 GHz. Lastly, it is not capable of supporting simultaneous Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, as they also share the same antenna path.

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  • CDMA1X + EV-DO bands 0, 1, 10 (i.e. CDMA1X + EV-DO 850/1900/800)
  • LTE band 25 (i.e. LTE 1900; PCS A-G blocks)
  • LTE 5 MHz FDD channel bandwidth
  • SVLTE support, including SVLTE and simultaneous 802.11b/g/n 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi tether
  • Maximum RF ERP/EIRP: 21.45 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 23.11 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 23.12 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 22.20 dBm (LTE 1900)
  • LTE antenna configuration 1 uplink, 2 downlink (i.e. 2x2 downlink MIMO)
  • 802.11 a/b/g/n Wi-Fi
  • NFC with antenna built into battery
According to the HTTP header from cloud4sites.com, the SPH-L500 has Android 4.1.2. SXTPdevelopers.com member “sextape” rumored the specs on the phone to be a 4.65” screen with a resolution of 1280 x 720, 8 MP rear camera and 1.9 MP front facing camera, 1 GB RAM, 8 GB built-in memory, and microSD Card slot supporting up to 64 GB cards. The chipset is said to be the Qualcomm MSM8930AA, which is apparently the same chipset found in the new HTC First by Facebook and HTC. If the SPH-L500 is released with these specs, they are pretty decent for a mid-range phone, considering all mid-range Sprint LTE phones up until now have only had 5 MP rear cameras and 4” 480 x 800 resolution displays.

Sources: FCC, cloud4sites, SXTP




Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini?
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newgroundsguru
Apr 08 2013 02:52 PM
Why would they have wi-fi and Bluetooth on the same path? I connect to my houses wi-fi and play music through my Bluetooth speaker almost daily. O_o

Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini?


Actually, the S4 Mini is smaller than this phone.
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WiWavelength
Apr 08 2013 03:08 PM

Why would they have wi-fi and Bluetooth on the same path?


This is hardly uncommon. It is a limitation of many cellphones. Look at all of the FCC OET articles that I have written. Note in how many devices the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth antennas are shared.

AJ

This is hardly uncommon. It is a limitation of many cellphones. Look at all of the FCC OET articles that I have written. Note in how many devices the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth antennas are shared.AJ


Are there conflicting issues if the WiFi and Bluetooth antennas are shared? I guess in practical use, it shouldn't be a big deal right? Unless you plan to talk with your cell phone via bluetooth and use wifi at the same time?
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WiWavelength
Apr 08 2013 05:14 PM

Are there conflicting issues if the WiFi and Bluetooth antennas are shared?


Wi-Fi and Bluetooth share the same unlicensed ISM 2400 MHz spectrum. If Wi-Fi and Bluetooth operated simultaneously from different antennas within the same small device, they could cause catastrophic interference with one another.

AJ
If this is the same chipset as the HTC First for AT&T, then a Sprint version of the HTC First could be released later, am I right?

Actually, the S4 Mini is smaller than this phone.


The S4 Mini hasn't even been announced yet.

If this is the same chipset as the HTC First for AT&T, then a Sprint version of the HTC First could be released later, am I right?


It's possible. The Qualcomm MSM8930AA is a Snapdragon 400 Dual Core.

The S4 Mini hasn't even been announced yet.


I'm basing it off rumored specs. All rumors I've seen place it at 4.3" screen.
I'll take a stab at this one: it's an update of the Samsung Galaxy Victory. Significantly larger screen, but that's my best guess.

I'll take a stab at this one: it's an update of the Samsung Galaxy Victory. Significantly larger screen, but that's my best guess.


That's the 1st thing I thought of when I first saw it. Hopefully Sprint and Samsung won't keep us waiting too long.
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halcyoncmdr
Apr 10 2013 12:27 PM
Are you sure WiFi/BT sharing the same path means they can't be used all the time. I'm pretty sure that's not how that works. I have BT on ALL the time (pebble smartwatch, and WiFi on 90% of the day and have never had issues with either simultaneously (Galaxy S3). I think 99% of phones have them on the same path due to the spectrum use.
I read in the FCC docs that Simultaneous Bluetooth and Wi-Fi were not possible.
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halcyoncmdr
Apr 14 2013 07:39 PM

I read in the FCC docs that Simultaneous Bluetooth and Wi-Fi were not possible.



I read that as well but I don't understand how that would be possible given that just about every other device shares antenna paths with BT/WiFi, yet they work together just fine. Cases in point, the Galaxy S III or Galaxy Note II.

I read that as well but I don't understand how that would be possible given that just about every other device shares antenna paths with BT/WiFi, yet they work together just fine. Cases in point, the Galaxy S III or Galaxy Note II.


Hmm. I don't know. I just typed in what I read. Very strange they would say that though.
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WiWavelength
Apr 14 2013 08:51 PM
Guys, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. With a shared antenna, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth cannot both transmit at the same time. Think about it...

AJ
In other words, they have to wait for the one before the other can transmit?
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halcyoncmdr
Apr 16 2013 12:15 AM

Guys, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. With a shared antenna, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth cannot both transmit at the same time. Think about it...AJ


Still doesn't explain why the FCC docs specifically state this limitation for this model and no other phone that I can find.
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WiWavelength
Apr 16 2013 08:04 AM

Still doesn't explain why the FCC docs specifically state this limitation for this model and no other phone that I can find.


Actually, most other smartphones share this same limitation, and the FCC OET docs disclose it. For example, note the simultaneous transmission mode table in my HTC One article:

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/

Modes can incorporate either Wi-Fi or Bluetooth but simultaneous Wi-Fi + Bluetooth *transmission* is not supported.

AJ

Does anyone know what cellebrite is? It kinda confirms the existence of the the Samsung SPH-L500. It was added on 2/24/13.

Did we ever figure out what phone this is?

Nope. It's all still a mystery. My guess is it'll be released later this summer as a mid-range low priced phone right before the Tri-Band LTE flagships get released.

The 8gb of internal storage sounds a bit like the s4 zoom? almost the right size

The 8gb of internal storage sounds a bit like the s4 zoom? almost the right size

Can't be. The SPH-L500 was in testing before the Galaxy S 4 was submitted to the FCC. It's one of those phones they determined that just wasn't worth the time to release. It's already being replaced by the SPH-L520, which is rumored to be the Galaxy S4 mini, so the L500 could very well have been the Galaxy S3 mini.

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