nexgencpu Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 More massive mimo info.. https://news.samsung.com/us/sprint-samsung-5g-ready-massive-mimo-solutions/ https://www.ericsson.com/en/news/2018/2/ericsson-a-key-partner-in-sprints-5g-ready-massive-mimo-deployments?1671073706 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Paynefanbro said: Well on the topic of 5G, T-Mobile decided to one-up Sprint. https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/mwc-2018-5g.htm Neville took a look at wine prices and doesn’t want to lose the bet with Dr. Saw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC126 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 41 minutes ago, RedSpark said: Neville took a look at wine prices and doesn’t want to lose the bet with Dr. Saw. Doctor Saw messed up, he only mentioned 40mh> when in reality he should have said 40mhz> of licensed spectrum. Tmobile will use the 5ghz WIFI and that will bring the lawsuits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 57 minutes ago, nexgencpu said: More massive mimo info.. https://news.samsung.com/us/sprint-samsung-5g-ready-massive-mimo-solutions/ https://www.ericsson.com/en/news/2018/2/ericsson-a-key-partner-in-sprints-5g-ready-massive-mimo-deployments?1671073706 So is Ericsson taking over for massive mimo in Ericsson NV 1.0 markets while Nokia moves to Alucent NV 1.0 markets for massive mimo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC126 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Just now, Terrell352 said: So is Ericsson taking over for massive mimo in Ericsson NV 1.0 markets while Nokia moves to Alucent NV 1.0 markets for massive mimo? Nothing of a big change. Nokia bought Lucent so obviously they are taking those big cities LA, NYC, Philly, Boston etc that Alcatel previously was responsible for. Ericsson will take over the Southern states where they deployed the network vision 1.0 tech. The only thing that stays intact is the Samsung markets like Chicago, Seattle etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 hours ago, kg4icg said: Looking forward to it, we'll be upgrading my primary line in June, so will just have to wait and see what device to get by then to take advantage of the DC area when it kicks in. I too am very excited to see these upgrades are coming for the DC Market. This will also help with Sprint’s initiatives to get back into the Federal and Public Sector space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYC126 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 What will be the maximum peak upload on the TDD LTE Massive MIMO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 What will be the maximum peak upload on the TDD LTE Massive MIMO?9.9 for 20 MHz 16 QAM 2x2. Double with 4x4 *~33% with 64qam.Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kg4icg Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I wonder what t-mobile was thinking with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menecer Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Well on the topic of 5G, T-Mobile decided to one-up Sprint. https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/mwc-2018-5g.htmThat's a huge disclaimer for that forward looking statement Sent from my 2PYB2 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, menecer said: That's a huge disclaimer for that forward looking statement Sent from my 2PYB2 using Tapatalk Haha I saw that too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red_dog007 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Earlier they were bashing all the other carriers for announcing 5G this year, and now they are saying 30 cities!? Geez... I can see them doing a lot with 600MHz. Their 5GHz movement will be interesting. The cellular industry push on 5GHz in general will be interesting. So many things are out of your control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paynefanbro Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Neville basically states it's going to be mmWave hotspots and 600MHz for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrph Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Neville basically states it's going to be mmWave hotspots and 600MHz for now.So I’m guessing the mmwave will be in high populated areas like malls and arenas and the 600 will be deploying like they been doing but with some aggregation and whatever else? It’ll be interesting to see what Sprints 5G is going to constructed like. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I'm on the fence with switching from Unlimited My Way to the current unlimited plan. Is the hotspot worth the "limitations" on video streaming? Can't decide if I should make the switch before any price changes which have been looming lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucdenny Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, derrph said: So I’m guessing the mmwave will be in high populated areas like malls and arenas and the 600 will be deploying like they been doing but with some aggregation and whatever else? It’ll be interesting to see what Sprints 5G is going to constructed like. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I hope they deploy it on all sites that make sense not like how they initially deployed B41 8T8R. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belusnecropolis Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Lots of talk about 4 and 5 Gee layers. Sounds like more radios, paths and sweet battery death. I wonder if it will have a lame toggle button on first wave phones like airlink rollouts of yore. The disclaimer was 299 words short of the article length in whole. That sure says something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 12 hours ago, JThorson said: I'm a little surprised they don't have Seattle as one of the first cities with Massive MIMO rollout since they did testing here last year. Me too. And very slightly sad... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 hours ago, cyclone said: I'm on the fence with switching from Unlimited My Way to the current unlimited plan. Is the hotspot worth the "limitations" on video streaming? Can't decide if I should make the switch before any price changes which have been looming lately https://support.sprint.com/support/article/FAQs_about_the_Sprint_Unlimited_Plans/e8bc59f3-1893-4482-895a-38b7ed69ab65 Unlimited Freedom includes HD Streaming for Video at 1080p. You can also upgrade to Ultra Hi Def Streaming for $10/Month per Line, which has no limitation. _______________ What is Sprint Ultra High Def streaming? It’s a new Sprint option that gives you the highest quality streaming available based upon the network, connection, device and content at the time of streaming. _______________ I used to be on Unlimited My Way and after switching to Unlimited Freedom with HD video streaming, I don’t see any decrease in video quality or performance on my iPhone. Having tethering is extremely convenient. Glad I switched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSpark Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Paynefanbro said: Neville basically states it's going to be mmWave hotspots and 600MHz for now. Seems to me that T-Mobile’s fighting limits on two fronts: 600 MHz doesn’t have enough carrying capacity for real 5G. mmWave also lacks sufficient propagation or justifiable economics to support deployments beyond hotspots. T-Mobile is going to have to come up with another way forward... or Sprint will leave them in the dust. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucdenny Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, RedSpark said: Seems to me that T-Mobile’s fighting limits on two fronts: 600 MHz doesn’t have enough carrying capacity for real 5G. mmWave also lacks sufficient propagation or justifiable economics to support deployments beyond hotspots. T-Mobile is going to have to come up with another way forward... or Sprint will leave them in the dust. Sprint needs to start leading. Customers will follow. Leaving Tmobile in the dust with speed is a good start. Many are skeptical of Sprint pulling it off. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I'm hoping for the best but I'm still very much a skeptic when it comes to Sprint. They are talking so much about 5G and they have not mastered 4G LTE yet. I hope they know what they are doing this time around.Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamMrFamous07 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Terrell352 said: I'm hoping for the best but I'm still very much a skeptic when it comes to Sprint. They are talking so much about 5G and they have not mastered 4G LTE yet. I hope they know what they are doing this time around. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk I agree but I think the 5G rollout will be easier since most of sprint sites have the backhaul to support 5G. More details of the 5G buildout process from John Saw: https://www.fiercewireless.com/5g/sprint-cto-parts-curtain-carrier-s-5g-buildout-process-goals-and-phones I wonder if small cell vendors will ever make 5G small cells...I’m curious about that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrell352 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, IamMrFamous07 said: I agree but I think the 5G rollout will be easier since most of sprint sites have the backhaul to support 5G. More details of the 5G buildout process from John Saw: https://www.fiercewireless.com/5g/sprint-cto-parts-curtain-carrier-s-5g-buildout-process-goals-and-phones I wonder if small cell vendors will ever make 5G small cells...I’m curious about that Only half of Sprints towers have b41. That’s not most. That means Sprint has to increase backhaul to 50% of its towers as well as all the other stuff they need to do. Long way to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexgencpu Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Terrell352 said: Only half of Sprints towers have b41. That’s not most. That means Sprint has to increase backhaul to 50% of its towers as well as all the other stuff they need to do. Long way to go. I'd be willing to wager that out of that 50% (I'm sure it's definitely lower at this point since they've been converting B25 only sites to triband at a good clip lately) at least half of those sites have adequate backhaul to support GB speeds, be it high-speed microwave, Docsis or fiber. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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