Marcelo Claure, Town Hall Meetings, New Family Share Pack Plan, Unlimited Individual Plan, Discussion Thread

[Tengen31]

Ditto on B25 10x10, that said - Sprint has started pulling (and been issued) permits for B41 upgrades in Tampa. So movement resumes on that front.

10x10 has been confirmed in Phoenix Arizona.

 

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[Tengen31]

Yeah but Tampa doesn't have the spectrum for a 10x10 b25 unless another swap is done for that market.

 

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What are their holdings there?

 

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[grapkoski]

Yeah but Tampa doesn't have the spectrum for a 10x10 b25 unless another swap is done for that market.

 

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Ah yeah, literally every market surrounding urban Tampa Bay (Hillsborough/Pinellas Counties) participated in a swap. Woof.

[Terrell352]

What are their holdings there?

 

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I dont remember. I do remember with out a spectrum swap its not going to happen though. Maybe if they shave off some pcs.

 

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[Terrell352]

Ah yeah, literally every market surrounding urban Tampa Bay (Hillsborough/Pinellas Counties) participated in a swap. Woof.

Which market is that? The only market I seen near Tampa in the swap was Sarasota.

 

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[Tengen31]

I dont remember. I do remember with out a spectrum swap its not going to happen though. Maybe if they shave off some pcs.

 

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I when back and, looked Tampa isnt on the swap list.

 

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[Terrell352]

I when back and, looked Tampa isnt on the swap list.

 

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Miami, panhandle and Tampa did not participate in a swap from what l see.

 

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[grapkoski]

Which market is that? The only market I seen near Tampa in the swap was Sarasota.

 

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BTAs: Sarasota, Gainesville, Lakeland, Orlando - All bordering the larger Tampa Bay metro area.

[Terrell352]

BTAs: Sarasota, Gainesville, Lakeland, Orlando - All bordering the larger Tampa Bay metro area.

Gainesville does not boarder Tampa. Its closer to Ocala and Jacksonville. I live in Ocala which is much closer to Tampa but even closer to Orlando. Every other market you mentioned is South Florida and Orlando markets.

 

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[grapkoski]

Gainesville does not boarder Tampa. Its closer to Ocala and Jacksonville. I live in Ocala which is much closer to Tampa but even closer to Orlando. Every other market you mentioned is South Florida and Orlando markets.

 

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Ah sorry, I was not speaking to Sprint markets and as a native to Tampa, I get what you mean. I was speaking to BTAs which Gainesville (326) does border the Tampa Bay BTA (440)(Hillsborough up to Citrus County). http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/data/maps/bta.pdf

[Terrell352]

Ah sorry, I was not speaking to Sprint markets and as a native to Tampa, I get what you mean. I was speaking to BTAs which Gainesville (326) does border the Tampa Bay BTA (440)(Hillsborough up to Citrus County). http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/data/maps/bta.pdf

Did the spectrum swap go by county or city? That whole section where Gainesville is located is Alachua county but not all of it is Gainesville.

 

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[conquereddroiduser]

How did you get on the beta?

Through the Samsung beta app a few months back out of their appstore. The beta is officially over now, so it is likely in carrier testing (or will be soon)

 

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[grapkoski]

Did the spectrum swap go by county or city? That whole section where Gainesville is located is Alachua county but not all of it is Gainesville.

 

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I believe they were all done at the BTA level, so the map I originally linked too. BTAs do not always line up with city/county/state lines.

[Terrell352]

I believe they were all done at the BTA level, so the map I originally linked too. BTAs do not always line up with city/county/state lines.

I wish they did in clusters. 10x10 is on a tower by tower basis.

 

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[RAvirani]

I wish they did in clusters. 10x10 is on a tower by tower basis.

 

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They did it in large clusters in Seattle...

[bigsnake49]

Did the spectrum swap go by county or city? That whole section where Gainesville is located is Alachua county but not all of it is Gainesville.

 

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Hillborough Country PCS spectrum map is a mess because of disaggregation. They own 7.5x7.5 MHz in the A block and then 5MHz*5MHz in the C block. They need to do some horse trading with T-Mobile in that area in the C Block so that they can have a 10x10 including the G block. Their 7.5MHz A block requires both Verizon and AT&T and T-Mobile to get involved to swap in order to make it a 15x15 block. Now my info is based on the FCC spectrum dashboard so it does not include any swaps from last year for that area.

[tyroned3222]

site that has been approved since last year may for modifications. Let me know if you guys see anything

 

 

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[ericdabbs]

B25xB25 CA is planned. 25+41 I don't know. Band 26 will not be used. Doing so uses up at it's capacity. Only reason the other carriers use band 12/13 is cause its all the spectrum they have..

 

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I think B25+B26 needs to happen eventually.  With LTE CA becoming more of the norm in the future, just a single B26 LTE carrier is not really of much use.  Verizon already does CA with its B13+B4 and B2 LTE carriers and Tmobile already does CA with its B12 + B4 LTE carriers and I assume B2 LTE carriers will eventually be added down the road as HSPA+ begins to wind down. ATT also does CA between its B12+B4 and probably eventually B2 and B30 LTE carriers.  To me it doesn't matter if the other 3 carriers have to do LTE CA combining low band and mid band because that is the spectrum it has.  Sprint should try to strive to eventually deploy 20x20 LTE carrier with its low band and mid band spectrum when CDMA is eventually shut down permanently.

 

I don't see any downside of Sprint at least requesting the ability to add B25+B26 CA for future Sprint devices to make them a fatter pipe to give Sprint the most flexibility.  Of course the majority of LTE traffic should be pumped through its B41 LTE carriers.

[Trip]

I was really early today, so I got off at the Mall exit of Smithsonian Metro instead of the 12th and Independence exit.  Next to the Freer Gallery of Art (diagonally across from the Department of Agriculture building) is an AT&T COW.  Here's what I got from it:

 

B17:  http://imgur.com/nAkVtMk

B2:  http://imgur.com/0a3Lx44

B4:  http://imgur.com/pCiDEZw

B30:  http://imgur.com/ZNfw55i

 

On the roof of the building was another antenna, which I've concluded is temporary Verizon equipment:

 

B13:  http://imgur.com/NmXFSsh

B4:  http://imgur.com/X2Mk5Um

B2:  http://imgur.com/l64ZQst

 

Somewhere else on the mall there must be T-Mobile equipment.  My B12 capable phone is not with me, but here's what I did see:

 

B4:  http://imgur.com/I0dISzt

 

I forgot to check for Band 2.  I'll try to do that later this morning when I'm headed back over there to get on the Metro for a meeting.  I'll also try to get a picture of the Verizon and AT&T gear if possible. 

 

And then, to compare, here's what Sprint had:

 

http://imgur.com/QbbpFI6

 

Granted, there is still time, but the other carriers seem to be ready to go.  Not sure what Sprint is waiting for.

 

- Trip

[Tengen31]

I think B25+B26 needs to happen eventually. With LTE CA becoming more of the norm in the future, just a single B26 LTE carrier is not really of much use. Verizon already does CA with its B13+B4 and B2 LTE carriers and Tmobile already does CA with its B12 + B4 LTE carriers and I assume B2 LTE carriers will eventually be added down the road as HSPA+ begins to wind down. ATT also does CA between its B12+B4 and probably eventually B2 and B30 LTE carriers. To me it doesn't matter if the other 3 carriers have to do LTE CA combining low band and mid band because that is the spectrum it has. Sprint should try to strive to eventually deploy 20x20 LTE carrier with its low band and mid band spectrum when CDMA is eventually shut down permanently.

 

I don't see any downside of Sprint at least requesting the ability to add B25+B26 CA for future Sprint devices to make them a fatter pipe to give Sprint the most flexibility. Of course the majority of LTE traffic should be pumped through its B41 LTE carriers.

How can Sprint Do that? They don't own any 20x20 for B26 and, B25 very limited amount of areas do.

 

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[ericdabbs]

How can Sprint Do that? They don't own any 20x20 for B26 and, B25 very limited amount of areas do.

 

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Not all Sprint markets would be able to do 20x20 MHz but those markets with PCS A, B, C blocks that are scattered are all each 15x15 MHz blocks (B25) and the ESMR block is 5x5 MHz (B26).  If you CA them together that makes it 20x20 MHz.  This doesn't even include if Sprint can CA its PCS 'G' block which gives them 5x5 MHz.

 

This would only come to fruition once CDMA is completely removed from its network.

[derrph]

I was really early today, so I got off at the Mall exit of Smithsonian Metro instead of the 12th and Independence exit. Next to the Freer Gallery of Art (diagonally across from the Department of Agriculture building) is an AT&T COW. Here's what I got from it:

 

B17: http://imgur.com/nAkVtMk

B2: http://imgur.com/0a3Lx44

B4: http://imgur.com/pCiDEZw

B30: http://imgur.com/ZNfw55i

 

On the roof of the building was another antenna, which I've concluded is temporary Verizon equipment:

 

B13: http://imgur.com/NmXFSsh

B4: http://imgur.com/X2Mk5Um

B2: http://imgur.com/l64ZQst

 

Somewhere else on the mall there must be T-Mobile equipment. My B12 capable phone is not with me, but here's what I did see:

 

B4: http://imgur.com/I0dISzt

 

I forgot to check for Band 2. I'll try to do that later this morning when I'm headed back over there to get on the Metro for a meeting. I'll also try to get a picture of the Verizon and AT&T gear if possible.

 

And then, to compare, here's what Sprint had:

 

http://imgur.com/QbbpFI6

 

Granted, there is still time, but the other carriers seem to be ready to go. Not sure what Sprint is waiting for.

 

- Trip

I'm always seeing these screens and don't know what they mean. Besides the band and the strength. Compared to the other 3 carriers what is Sprint doing wrong based on what you said in your comment?

 

 

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[Trip]

I'm always seeing these screens and don't know what they mean. Besides the band and the strength. Compared to the other 3 carriers what is Sprint doing wrong based on what you said in your comment?

 

 

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In short, the issue is that the other three carriers have COWs or temporary equipment set up, and Sprint doesn't, at least not yet.  I was showing that I was connected to the normal Sprint site (which has a note indicating it's on the Department of Energy) while the others had no notes (indicating I'd connected to them for the first time). 

 

- Trip

[RedSpark]

I was really early today, so I got off at the Mall exit of Smithsonian Metro instead of the 12th and Independence exit. Next to the Freer Gallery of Art (diagonally across from the Department of Agriculture building) is an AT&T COW. Here's what I got from it:

 

B17: http://imgur.com/nAkVtMk

B2: http://imgur.com/0a3Lx44

B4: http://imgur.com/pCiDEZw

B30: http://imgur.com/ZNfw55i

 

On the roof of the building was another antenna, which I've concluded is temporary Verizon equipment:

 

B13: http://imgur.com/NmXFSsh

B4: http://imgur.com/X2Mk5Um

B2: http://imgur.com/l64ZQst

 

Somewhere else on the mall there must be T-Mobile equipment. My B12 capable phone is not with me, but here's what I did see:

 

B4: http://imgur.com/I0dISzt

 

I forgot to check for Band 2. I'll try to do that later this morning when I'm headed back over there to get on the Metro for a meeting. I'll also try to get a picture of the Verizon and AT&T gear if possible.

 

And then, to compare, here's what Sprint had:

 

http://imgur.com/QbbpFI6

 

Granted, there is still time, but the other carriers seem to be ready to go. Not sure what Sprint is waiting for.

 

- Trip

It's a bit disconcerting to see that Sprint hasn't fired this stuff up yet. Hoping Sprint pulls it together over the weekend.

 

Here's T-Mobile's Inauguration Prep release: https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/inauguration-network-preps.htm

 

Here's Verizon's Inauguration Prep release: http://www.verizon.com/about/news/verizon-enhances-next-gen-network-increases-wireless-data-capacity-500-dc-prepares-donald-trump

 

Here's AT&T's Inauguration Prep release: http://about.att.com/innovationblog/inauguration_network

 

Vs.

 

Sprint's Inauguration Prep release: http://newsroom.sprint.com/blogs/sprint-perspectives/sprints-dc-network-ready-to-support-a-great-american-tradition-the-presidential-inauguration.htm

 

Don't let us down Sprint!

[Tengen31]

It's a bit disconcerting to see that Sprint hasn't fired this stuff up yet. Hoping Sprint pulls it together over the weekend.

 

Here's T-Mobile's Inauguration Prep release: https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/inauguration-network-preps.htm

 

Here's Verizon's Inauguration Prep release: http://www.verizon.com/about/news/verizon-enhances-next-gen-network-increases-wireless-data-capacity-500-dc-prepares-donald-trump

 

Here's AT&T's Inauguration Prep release: http://about.att.com/innovationblog/inauguration_network

 

Vs.

 

Sprint's Inauguration Prep release: http://newsroom.sprint.com/blogs/sprint-perspectives/sprints-dc-network-ready-to-support-a-great-american-tradition-the-presidential-inauguration.htm

 

Don't let us down Sprint!

Can Sprint Do 10x10 B25 there?

 

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