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Living near Seattle, I don't believe I'll be seeing much 800... I wonder if Sprint/Clear will deploy more widespread 2500/2600 to help offload 1900? That would be awesome.

 

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Living near Seattle, I don't believe I'll be seeing much 800... I wonder if Sprint/Clear will deploy more widespread 2500/2600 to help offload 1900? That would be awesome.

 

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Yes. There will be extensive TD-LTE to offload onto in the Seattle area.

 

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Specialists: All

Customers: All

Effective Date: 7/19/13

What you need to know:

 

7/19 is a big day for Sprint‘s Network Vision with new spectrum and new devices launching. 2.5GHz LTE data traffic will overflow to the Clearwire network in: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Denver, Seattle, Miami, New York City, Tampa and Chicago.

 

3 new data connection devices launch supporting 2.5GHz LTE frequency:

MiFi 500 LTE by NOVATEL, NETGEAR Zing Mobile Hotspot and NETGEAR 341U USB Modem.

 

Why you need to know it:

As Sprint completes the merger with Clearwire, we are gaining access to 2 new spectrums to use on the CDMA LTE network.

 

800MHz frequency provides better inbuilding penetration and larger coverage footprint, but reduced capacity.

 

2.5GHz frequency provides smaller coverage footprint, but greater capacity and speeds.

 

This additional spectrum allows LTE devices to intelligently and dynamically select the appropriate frequency between 1900MHz, 800MHz and 2.5GHz to nail down a call.

 

What you can expect next: New smartphones supporting 2.5GHz LTE will launch in the fall of 2013. LTE 800MHz network upgrades are scheduled to be completed by the end of this year.

 

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I don't mean to bring this back up since this is the wrong frequency for this thread, but when you say LTE 800 is supposed to be completed by the end of this year, wouldn't that imply LTE 1900 would be done, as well? Doesn't the 800 MHz setup require new equipment (panels?)

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I don't mean to bring this back up since this is the wrong frequency for this thread, but when you say LTE 800 is supposed to be completed by the end of this year, wouldn't that imply LTE 1900 would be done, as well? Doesn't the 800 MHz setup require new equipment (panels?)

 

I was wondering about that too. It may be referencing a single market, as I'm pretty sure they can't mean nationwide. 

 

The only other thought is that they mean 800 activations will have caught up to the 1900 LTE completions by the end of the year.

 

(or there's been a change in the schedule  ....  :fingers: )

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I don't mean to bring this back up since this is the wrong frequency for this thread, but when you say LTE 800 is supposed to be completed by the end of this year, wouldn't that imply LTE 1900 would be done, as well? Doesn't the 800 MHz setup require new equipment (panels?)

This was from an internal Sprint memo. It should mean nationwide. However, I was very surprised to see that nugget too. I assume it means that all LTE 1900 sites done to date will be targeted to have LTE 800 brought up on them by the end of the year, and any thereafter will get LTE 800/1900 at the same time from then on.

 

This is probably a SoftBank imposed deadline. Papa Son is already bringing us the goodies.

 

LTE 800 doesn't require any additional equipment on the tower. Just a carrier card at the RBS if the site already supports NV LTE.

 

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Robert presents TD-LTE 2600 from Denver, Colorado. I'm at the Lone Tree Mall. Activated the new Netgear MiFi and had LTE 2600 instantly. See below:

 

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So even with a weak indoor -109dBm RSRP (one bar), I had very usable results. I'm inside a shopping mall where I even only have one bar Verizon LTE.

 

Best speed test over 11Mbps. Weakest in the Mid 7's. Not shabby with such a weak signal. Heading over toward Stapleton in the next hour. We will see how widespread this TD-LTE is around Denver. But I was shocked to have it in the very first place I turned it on. Could it be market wide already? Hmmm...

 

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Hit 21Mbps on the RootMetrics app, before it settled on 14Mbps at the end of the test. With a -109dBm RSRP. Can't wait to find a full signal somewhere.

 

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Robert presents TD-LTE 2600 from Denver, Colorado. I'm at the Lone Tree Mall. Activated the new Netgear MiFi and had LTE 2600 instantly.  .  .  . Could it be market wide already? Hmmm... Robert from Note 2 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

Hit 21Mbps on the RootMetrics app, before it settled on 14Mbps at the end of the test. With a -109dBm RSRP. Can't wait to find a full signal somewhere.

 

 

Astounding!!!!!!

 

Now someone has to figure out how to map it.  Sensorly, are you listening?

 

[Vacation, my patootskies! This was nothing more than a ruse so that you could be the first one to discover LTE 2600! You sneaky son of a gun!] :rofl:

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So now it begins. The naysayers will start to chime in shortly. Until then, get as much data as we can. Son has turned up the heat. Sprint is the 1st with LTE-Advance out the door in the US market.

 

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Nice. Ping seems pretty high for LTE though. Is that because of the weak signal?

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Nice. Ping seems pretty high for LTE though. Is that because of the weak signal?

Could be. It could also be that Clearwire hasn't upgraded backhaul at this site and it's using the same microwave connection like WiMax often did. I will monitor some more as I'm around Denver tonight.

 

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Could be. It could also be that Clearwire hasn't upgraded backhaul at this site and it's using the same microwave connection like WiMax often did. I will monitor some more as I'm around Denver tonight.

 

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How much does the hotspot factor in with pings?

 

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I believe AJ already debunked this.  Combining FDD and TDD is not possible.  Each tower that is going to get 2.5 will require a new antenna per sector as well as equipment and cards in the new NV racks.

 

oh its possible. Guaranteed to FUBAR neighboring sectors for miles!

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Robert presents TD-LTE 2600 from Denver, Colorado. I'm at the Lone Tree Mall. Activated the new Netgear MiFi and had LTE 2600 instantly. See below: attachicon.gifuploadfromtaptalk1374525160279.jpg attachicon.gifuploadfromtaptalk1374525191400.jpg attachicon.gifuploadfromtaptalk1374525212256.jpg attachicon.gifuploadfromtaptalk1374525235447.jpg attachicon.gifuploadfromtaptalk1374525288396.jpg So even with a weak indoor -109dBm RSRP (one bar), I had very usable results. I'm inside a shopping mall where I even only have one bar Verizon LTE. Best speed test over 11Mbps. Weakest in the Mid 7's. Not shabby with such a weak signal. Heading over toward Stapleton in the next hour. We will see how widespread this TD-LTE is around Denver. But I was shocked to have it in the very first place I turned it on. Could it be market wide already? Hmmm... Robert from Note 2 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

 

Behold the powerful ERP/EIRP tri band LTE hotspot.  Trinity!

 

 

 

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Could be. It could also be that Clearwire hasn't upgraded backhaul at this site and it's using the same microwave connection like WiMax often did. I will monitor some more as I'm around Denver tonight.

 

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Do we know the current capacity of the microwave backhaul at Clearwire sites?  I wonder if Clearwire setup their backhaul to be scaleable.

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I'm at the Lone Tree Mall. Activated the new Netgear MiFi and had LTE 2600 instantly. See below

 

 

I'm coming for your wifi, herron1996!

 

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I'm coming for your wifi, herron1996!

 

B)

 

Wait, what happened to "FBI Surveillance Van"?

 

;)

 

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Do we know the current capacity of the microwave backhaul at Clearwire sites?  I wonder if Clearwire setup their backhaul to be scaleable.

 

 

I could probably find out since I work for Clearwire.

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Robert must have the world's best wife, he is on vacation and drives to Denver to to get another hot spot so he can see IF 2600 is even there or not... and lives to tell the tale. 

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Can't these different bands be mapped or recorded any kinda way?

 

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I wonder if Sensorly would create a new group for Clearwire LTE so that we can map which areas have 2500 TD-LTE.  If Clearwire LTE gets mixed in under "Sprint 4G" then we can't find out which areas have 2500 TD-LTE.

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Can't these different bands be mapped or recorded any kinda way?

 

At the very least, it requires a different PLMN MCC-MNC.  Look for 311-940.

 

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How do you know you were connected to 2600 band?

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How do you know you were connected to 2600 band?

Band 41 = 2.5ghz - 2.6ghz 

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How do you know you were connected to 2600 band?

One of the pics shows that the mifi was connected to LTE Band 41, which is the 2600 mhz band assigned to Clearwire (now Sprint).

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