lynyrd65 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=640611&fcc_id=A3LSPHL720 Band 25 only from what I can tell. Not unexpected, but I would have loved to be surprised. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I beat you to it by 2 minutes. Post #124 http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/3395-the-galaxy-s4-gets-announced-today-are-you-excited/page__st__120 "Looks like bad news for the Sprint Samsung Galaxy S4. The Sprint version went through the FCC today and from looking at the FCC documents, it only contains Band 25 (1900 MHz A-G block) LTE support and supports only 5 MHz bandwidths. I am very sad about the lack of multi-band LTE support but at the same time I am not surprised about this given the HTC One only contains Band 25 (1900 MHz A-G block) LTE support as well. I just really hope the 2H 2013 LTE phones like the LG Optimus G 2, Galaxy Note 3, Moto X (rumored), Nexus 5, etc contain tri-band LTE support. I'll be looking forward to AJ's article for further analysis on the Sprint Galaxy S4 FCC documents. Engadget article about Sprint Samsung Galaxy S4 hits FCC. http://www.engadget....d-sprint-forms/ Sprint Galaxy S4 FCC filing https://apps.fcc.gov...c_id=A3LSPHL720 " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Well, crap. I have been checking the FCC ULS every few hours for the last several weeks. Of course, it would have to be the afternoon that I have a doctor's appointment that the Galaxy S4 hits the database, and I get scooped. AJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themuffinman Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Well, crap. I have been checking the FCC ULS every few hours for the last several weeks. Of course, it would have to be the afternoon that I have a doctor's appointment that the Galaxy S4 hits the database, and I get scooped. AJ Looking forward to reading your analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesinclair Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Im sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffDTD Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Havent we always been told not to expect the other bands to be included in a release until "late 2013"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynyrd65 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Share Posted March 28, 2013 Havent we always been told not to expect the other bands to be included in a release until "late 2013"? Sure but it doesn't mean we can't be disappointed in the strategy itself. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 My article is up on The Wall... http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-343-a-short-time-from-now-in-a-galaxy-not-far-away/ AJ 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggrey Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 My article is up on The Wall... http://s4gru.com/ind...y-not-far-away/ AJ Brotha you are fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusOchncap Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Havent we always been told not to expect the other bands to be included in a release until "late 2013"?Indeed. I was still hoping to see a phone support tri-band out sooner than later. Especially with the Galaxy S4, which according to Samsung can support up to twenty different LTE bands. /le sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Indeed. I was still hoping to see a phone support tri-band out sooner than later. Especially with the Galaxy S4, which according to Samsung can support up to twenty different LTE bands. /le sigh Keep in mind that the 20 LTE band support was on the exynos 5 octa core chip and not the qualcomm 600 chip. The qualcomm 600 chip will be used on all USA variants of the S4. Now the qualcomm chip can support the 800 and 2500 mhz band classes but that doesnt mean it has to be added to the device. Sprint and samsung would have to agree on what LTE band classes it wants to support and would need to add the additional antennas needed to support those band classes in the device. Personally..like you i would have expected all 2013 LTE phones to have tri-band LTE support but when i saw the htc one support 1900 mhz LTE only, i had a bad feeling that the S4 was going to have the same fate. Hopefully the iphone 5s, galaxy note 3 or lg optimus g 2 will be the first tri-band LTE phone this year. What i hope for the galaxy note 3 is for sprint and samsung to request testing the LTE in 5 and 10 mhz bandwidths. Samsung is notorious for only testing 5 mhz bandwidths for LTE in the S3, Note 2 and S4 thus far. Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Keep in mind that the 20 LTE band support was on the exynos 5 octa core chip and not the qualcomm 600 chip. The qualcomm 600 chip will be used on all USA variants of the S4. Now the qualcomm chip can support the 800 and 2500 mhz band classes but that doesnt mean it has to be added to the device. The Snapdragon 600 aka APQ8064T is just a processor. It does not contain a baseband modem on chip. So, actually, it has no effect on LTE band capability. AJ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusOchncap Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Keep in mind that the 20 LTE band support was on the exynos 5 octa core chip and not the qualcomm 600 chip. The qualcomm 600 chip will be used on all USA variants of the S4. Now the qualcomm chip can support the 800 and 2500 mhz band classes but that doesnt mean it has to be added to the device. Sprint and samsung would have to agree on what LTE band classes it wants to support and would need to add the additional antennas needed to support those band classes in the device. Personally..like you i would have expected all 2013 LTE phones to have tri-band LTE support but when i saw the htc one support 1900 mhz LTE only, i had a bad feeling that the S4 was going to have the same fate. Hopefully the iphone 5s, galaxy note 3 or lg optimus g 2 will be the first tri-band LTE phone this year. What i hope for the galaxy note 3 is for sprint and samsung to request testing the LTE in 5 and 10 mhz bandwidths. Samsung is notorious for only testing 5 mhz bandwidths for LTE in the S3, Note 2 and S4 thus far. Sent from my MB855 using Tapatalk 2 Indubitably. I don't meant to harsh on Sprint, but even Verizon is supporting their non-existant AWS LTE tech on their Galaxy S4 variant [source: http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/29/samsung-galaxy-s-4-for-verizon-swings-through-the-fcc/]. We probably won't see Verizon's AWS LTE network until late 2013 or even into 2014... and Verizon is usually conservative on this kind of stuff. Just wish Sprint was a little bit more forward including support for their forthcoming LTE networks. They've been selling handsets that support 800MHz CDMA voice since sometime in 2012... And for Samsung, I don't know why they continue to put out the Galaxy S line in the USA with Qualcomm chips. I'd happily take a Exynos 4+4 core (or as the lazy tech PR mouthpieces have been calling it an octocore) here. =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusOchncap Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 The Snapdragon 600 aka APQ8064T is just a processor. It does not contain a baseband modem on chip. So, actually, it has no effect on LTE band capability. AJ Good to know. Was under the impression the Snapdragon chip line had the modems integrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Good to know. Was under the impression the Snapdragon chip line had the modems integrated. Some do, but others do not. For most of last year, the chipset du jour was the Snapdragon S4 MSM8960, which is a full SoC with integrated baseband. Later this year when the Snapdragon 800 aka MSM8974 becomes available, the high end chipset will again have an onboard baseband. AJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiWavelength Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 I don't meant to harsh on Sprint, but even Verizon is supporting their non-existant AWS LTE tech on their Galaxy S4 variant [source: ."]http://www.engadget....ough-the-fcc/]. We probably won't see Verizon's AWS LTE network until late 2013 or even into 2014... and Verizon is usually conservative on this kind of stuff. I would not give VZW much credit in this regard. VZW has held AWS spectrum for six years and has offered LTE handsets for two years, yet VZW is just now getting around to including band 4 LTE capability. That would be akin to Sprint not adding band 26 LTE and/or band 41 TD-LTE capability until this time next year. AJ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusOchncap Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I would not give VZW much credit in this regard. VZW has held AWS spectrum for six years and has offered LTE handsets for two years, yet VZW is just now getting around to including band 4 LTE capability. That would be akin to Sprint not adding band 26 LTE and/or band 41 TD-LTE capability until this time next year.I forgot that Verizon bought a ton of AWS spectrum during the 2006 auction. [source: http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=99&p=1495 ] Geez, that was a lot of spectrum to just sit on until the SpectrumCo swap and T-mobile sale last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericdabbs Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Verizon does deserve critique for not deploying dual band LTE phones thus far. When the SpectrumCo spectrum deal was approved last August, I would have been expected that that was the green light they needed to begin deploying dual band LTE phones since they would have enough spectrum nationwide to deploy AWS LTE. But it appears Verizon is now turning a new leaf starting to deploy dual band (700 and AWS) LTE support with the S4 and I expect all Verizon LTE devices from here on out to include dual band LTE support. For now I'll give Sprint the benefit of the doubt since they have not deployed 800 or 2500 MHz LTE as of yet. However later on this year, Sprint has announced 800 MHz LTE will begin deploying in Q4 and Sprint should be using Clearwire LTE which is currently in active deployment. If Sprint does not include tri-band LTE phones for its 2H 2013 LTE phones, they should deserve critique for not trying to future proof their LTE devices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slowsprint Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 That Sprint is going to deploy the 800 MHz LTE but not sell a phone that can use it is a real mystery. They were selling LTE phones before they had any LTE so I don't know why they'd hold back in this situation. Frustrating. I really wanted the S4. I wonder if Sprint will get a Nexus 5? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z250kid Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 That Sprint is going to deploy the 800 MHz LTE but not sell a phone that can use it is a real mystery. They were selling LTE phones before they had any LTE so I don't know why they'd hold back in this situation. Frustrating. I really wanted the S4. I wonder if Sprint will get a Nexus 5? I doubt that 800mhz will be 100% in a year. I think sprint learned not to sell something before there lovely network can support it. Aka Wimax and LTE when the phones first came out. Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z250kid Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 now this fcc report what carrier is it for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8nuguy Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 sprint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyrgreen Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Wish I would have known about your site before my wife got me the S4 for Father's Day. Was super disappointed when I realized that I couldn't get 4g on my brand spanking new S4 but had it on what I thought to be antiquated EVO. Crap... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc_gusto Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Wish I would have known about your site before my wife got me the S4 for Father's Day. Was super disappointed when I realized that I couldn't get 4g on my brand spanking new S4 but had it on what I thought to be antiquated EVO. Crap... huh? S4 gets 4g. 1900 4g lte. They just won't be able to get 800 MHz lte. when it comes out later on. The new s4 is just future proofing. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 4 Beta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr8nuguy Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 The evo he speaks of is the evo 4g (wimax) which the s4 can't do Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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