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http://www.rootmetrics.com/us/rsr/toledo-oh/2015/2H

Darn still verizon, but an improvement for sure next time around should be on top or even closer

 

Also got this on central and mccord this weekend 611c5e2496ac2149981afd09d98b5075.jpg

 

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Just a quick update for the lima area (sorry for anyone looking for good news in lima)

 

Still just a 5x5 deployment and starting to get overloaded even at night with UNOH (the college)  i have not spotted any B41 equipment anywhere despite Verizon launching their XLTE here. 1x800 is pretty much live everywhere but 1x on 1900MHz was fine already.

 

There are still a few sites that were upgraded mid 2014 with all new equipment but are still 3G only.

 

Well i guess thats all for the lima area.....dang.....

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Just a quick update for the lima area (sorry for anyone looking for good news in lima)

 

Still just a 5x5 deployment and starting to get overloaded even at night with UNOH (the college)  i have not spotted any B41 equipment anywhere despite Verizon launching their XLTE here. 1x800 is pretty much live everywhere but 1x on 1900MHz was fine already.

 

There are still a few sites that were upgraded mid 2014 with all new equipment but are still 3G only.

 

Well i guess thats all for the lima area.....dang.....

Have not really seen much change around Toledo. Same couple towers still need work.

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Joski1624 Member Level: 4G WiMax

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Yep, 1x800 has been firing up like crazy in the Cleveland Market too.  It first was found via SCP logs in testing mode on February 18th in Downtown Cleveland.  It only formally went live in my area (I live 30 miles east of the city) on April 11th.

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Yep, 1x800 has been firing up like crazy in the Cleveland Market too. It first was found via SCP logs in testing mode on February 18th in testing mode in Downtown Cleveland. It only formally went live in my area (I live 30 miles east of the city) on April 11th.

I will say this too...it does kick some arse in our market there's places were I'd barley get a signal or I'd roam on and now it's atleast 90 or less for dbm range it goes a little lower once and while but it's plenty usable. Can't wait till fire up LTE on it

 

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X800 has been cutting out 4 days. Does anybody else until you don't notice these things or no? This is the Toledo Market I apologize for not stating that

 

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X800 has been cutting out 4 days. Does anybody else until you don't notice these things or no? This is the Toledo Market I apologize for not stating that

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1x800 still needs a lot of work in newly launched areas in the Cleveland Market, so my bet is that this also applies for Toledo. 1x1900 still outperforms (sometimes substantially) 1x800 in the primary IBEZ where it has only been on for a few months, and only officially launched about a month ago.

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i would rather have a better B25 and 41 signal everywhere than 1x800

 

It could be looked at this way: 1x800 is a pecursor to Band 26 which will help everyone. Hopefully the Canadian side rebranding will progress fairly quickly in order to make it happen. I'm not sure about areas outside of Toledo to the south and west, but metro Toledo and points East are full of B25 10x10. I think that is more beneficial for rural areas than B41.

 

I've been analyzing your market too and found that Sprint has added at minimum about a dozen sites (likely more that aren't iDEN conversions). Cleveland has gained about the same in iDEN conversions, but the big difference is that the Toledo market is about half the size of what is here, so the percentage of new native service by the addition of new sites is greater for you fine folks :tu:

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It could be looked at this way: 1x800 is a pecursor to Band 26 which will help everyone. Hopefully the Canadian side rebranding will progress fairly quickly in order to make it happen. I'm not sure about areas outside of Toledo to the south and west, but metro Toledo and points East are full of B25 10x10. I think that is more beneficial for rural areas than B41.

 

I've been analyzing your market too and found that Sprint has added at minimum about a dozen sites (likely more that aren't iDEN conversions). Cleveland has gained about the same in iDEN conversions, but the big difference is that the Toledo market is about half the size of what is here, so the percentage of new native service by the addition of new sites is greater for you fine folks :tu:

 

tower conversions are good news as sprint greatly needs better coverage everywhere outside cities, with 3G sprints coverage is pretty darn good but because LTE is more fragile you end up with lots of lte spots with 3g in between rather than uniform lte coverage.

 

if they spent more money on adding new full tower build outs and fixing the coverage id bet that people would flock to sprint.

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Sprint drop ball when completing backhaul upgrades i see it in every market i visit.

Thats not sprints fault its the providers fault, however sprint could push a bit harder when dealing with these ISPs

 

(oh sorry we didnt get that fiber to your tower can you give us 3 more months?)

 

The reason T-Mo was able to get their LTE deployed so easily is because when they started deploying HSPA and + it required more bandwith so they were already set to go for their LTE conversions, sprint was not due to 3G not requiring such a back haul. and now they are forced to wait.

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Thats not sprints fault its the providers fault, however sprint could push a bit harder when dealing with these ISPs

 

(oh sorry we didnt get that fiber to your tower can you give us 3 more months?)

 

The reason T-Mo was able to get their LTE deployed so easily is because when they started deploying HSPA and + it required more bandwith so they were already set to go for their LTE conversions, sprint was not due to 3G not requiring such a back haul. and now they are forced to wait.

Just wanted to add to this. It is not just a sprint problem either. Many places in the United States simply do not have fiber infrastructure. I also believe many ISPs are just waiting for DOCSIS 3.1 in the next year so they can just keep their current copper lines.

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tower conversions are good news as sprint greatly needs better coverage everywhere outside cities, with 3G sprints coverage is pretty darn good but because LTE is more fragile you end up with lots of lte spots with 3g in between rather than uniform lte coverage.

 

if they spent more money on adding new full tower build outs and fixing the coverage id bet that people would flock to sprint.

Actually, it wouldn't take very many new sites to fill in remaining coverage gaps with native Sprint service in your market (CDMA services). Your iDEN conversions mostly filled in a lot of substantial coverage holes that were west of Bowling Green to the Defiance area. The same is true for us in Cleveland with Ashtabula County going from freeway only coverage to almost continuous coverage just by doing iDEN conversions. :tu:

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Actually, it wouldn't take very many new sites to fill in remaining coverage gaps with native Sprint service in your market (CDMA services). Your iDEN conversions mostly filled in a lot of substantial coverage holes that were west of Bowling Green to the Defiance area. The same is true for us in Cleveland with Ashtabula County going from freeway only coverage to almost continuous coverage just by doing iDEN conversions. :tu:

To add to that LTE 800 not yet active will also further expand coverage

 

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So i was looking through some of my logs and found 3rd carrier for band 41. These would be in southern Michigan over the border. Nothing i see in ohio yet. Have to see if CA is enable yet or not next time im around. Also note this area is not a high population area mostly rual.

 

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There's a new tower being built on the corner where Lint turns into Matzinger.  Does anyone know if Sprint is trying to fix the dead zone that is Sylvania Ave?  Or just another verizon tower :(

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There's a new tower being built on the corner where Lint turns into Matzinger.  Does anyone know if Sprint is trying to fix the dead zone that is Sylvania Ave?  Or just another verizon tower :(

 

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small update, Lima ohio now has 10x10 B25 LTE running, still no B26 or B41 up as far as i can see. 

how do i know? the 40 down and 20 up i got at iHop

If you see 26640/8640 for the earfcn in the lte engineering screen, chances are good that 10x10 has made a splash. The 10x10 B25 carrier has expanded greatly here over the last few weeks, so these wheelin' and dealin' spectrum swaps are now being realized at the consumer end.

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