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We are frequently asked about which legacy vendor is in each market. So we have created a list telling of the legacy vendor, and the new Network Vision vendor, for all 97 of the Sprint markets in the country. See the three posts below, broken down into Sprint Region, Sprint Sub-Region and Sprint market.

 

 

P.S. - I had to recreate this thread due to formatting limitations with IP Board. I needed to break each region into it's own post.

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NORTHEAST

......BAWA

............Baltimore

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Delaware

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Norfolk

........................LEGACY: Motorola

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Richmond

........................LEGACY: Motorola

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Southern Virginia

........................LEGACY: Motorola (Richmond MSC sites), Ericsson/Nortel (Johnson City MSC sites), Lucent (Beltsville MSC sites)

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent, except Ericsson at Johnson City sites

............Washington DC

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

......CENTRAL

............Central Pennsylvania

........................LEGACY: Lucent (Albany & Philadelphia MSC sites), Ericsson (Erie MSC sites)

........................NV: Lucent (Albany & Philadelphia MSC sites), Samsung (Erie MSC sites)

............Cincinnati

........................LEGACY: Motorola

........................NV: Samsung

............Cleveland

........................LEGACY: Motorola

........................NV: Samsung

............Columbus

........................LEGACY: Motorola, except Ericsson/Nortel at Ft. Wayne MSC sites

........................NV: Samsung

............Ft. Wayne/South Bend

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Samsung

............Indianapolis

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Samsung

............Philadelphia

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Pittsburgh

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............Toledo

........................LEGACY: Lucent (Lansing MSC sites) and Ericsson (Ft. Wayne MSC sites)

........................NV: Samsung

............Western Pennsylvania

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel), except Lucent at Pittsburgh MSC sites

........................NV: Samsung

............West Virginia

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Samsung, except Alcatel/Lucent at Mt. Gay

......Upper Midwest (MI/WI/IL)

............Central Illinois

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Samsung

............Chicago

........................LEGACY: Motorola

........................NV: Samsung

............East Michigan

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............Milwaukee

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............North Wisconsin

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............West Michigan

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel), except Lucent at Lansing MSC sites

........................NV: Samsung

......New England

............Boston

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Northern Connecticut

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Providence

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Southern Connecticut

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............VT / NH / ME

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

......New York

............Buffalo

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............Central Jersey

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Long Island

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............New York City

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Northern Jersey

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Rochester

........................LEGACY: Lucent, except Ericsson (Nortel) at Erie MSC sites

........................NV: Samsung, except Alcatel/Lucent at Albany MSC sites

............Southern Jersey

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Upstate NY Central

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent, except Samsung at Rochester MSC sites

............Upstate NY East

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

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SOUTH

......FLORIDA/PR

............Jacksonville

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Miami/West Palm

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Orlando

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............PR/VI

........................LEGACY: Samsung

........................NV: Samsung

............South West Florida

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Tampa

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............The Panhandle

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

......UPPER SOUTH (KCAT)

............Charlotte

........................LEGACY: Motorola

........................NV: Alcatel/Lucent

............East Kentucky

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel), except Motorola at Knoxville MSC sites

........................NV: Ericsson

............Memphis

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Myrtle Beach

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel/Lucent

............Nashville

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel), except Motorola at Knoxville MSC sites

........................NV: Ericsson

............Raleigh/Durham

........................LEGACY: Motorola

........................NV: Alcatel/Lucent

............West Kentucky

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Winston/Salem

........................LEGACY: Motorola

........................NV: Alcatel/Lucent

......PLAINS

............Arkansas

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Kansas

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Missouri

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Oklahoma

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

......SOUTHEAST

............Alabama

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Atlanta/Athens

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............GA/SC Coast

........................LEGACY: Lucent, except Ericsson at Jacksonville MSC sites

........................NV: Lucent, except Ericsson at Jacksonville MSC sites

............Georgia

........................LEGACY: Ericsson, except Lucent at Greenville MSC sites

........................NV: Ericsson, except Lucent at Greenville MSC sites

............Gulf Coast

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Louisiana

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel) around Lafayette and Beaumont/Port Arthur, Lucent around Lake Charles/Alexandria

........................NV: Ericsson

............Mississippi

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel), except Lucent at (6) Jackson MSC sites

........................NV: Ericsson

............New Orleans

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............South Carolina

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel/Lucent

......TEXAS

............Austin

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............DFW (Dallas/Ft. Worth)

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............East Texas

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Houston

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............San Antonio

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............South Texas

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............West Texas

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

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WEST

……NCAL/HI

............Hawaii

........................LEGACY: Motorola

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Lower Central Valley

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung, except Lucent at Ontario MSC sites

............SF Bay

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............South Bay

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............Upper Central Valley

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

……InterMountain West

............Albuquerque

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Ericsson

............Colorado

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............Idaho

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............Phoenix

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Tucson/Yuma

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Utah

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

……PNW/Upper Plains

............Central Iowa

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Samsung

............Dakotas

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Samsung

............East Iowa

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Samsung

............Inland Northwest

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............Minnesota

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Samsung

............Oregon/SW Washington

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

............West Iowa/Nebraska

........................LEGACY: Ericsson (Nortel)

........................NV: Samsung

............West Washington

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Samsung

……SoCal

............LA Metro

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Las Vegas

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............North LA

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Orange County

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............Riverside/San Bernardino

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

............San Diego

........................LEGACY: Lucent

........................NV: Alcatel Lucent

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Interesting...Samsung must've given Sprint a pretty good deal on NV. They're taking over areas from Lucent and Nortel (now Alcatel-Lucent and Ericsson), while AlcaLu and Ericsson are more or less staying put, only grabbing markets where Motorola used to be.

 

I wonder if Ericsson being 4G-only in many NV locations has to do with their perception that they don't need to upgrade old Nortel equipment as quickly, since I assume the equipment from the same vendor would be compatible across generations. This, in contrast to Samsung, which has to put the pedal to the metal in CHI because there are serious backward compatibility issues between Moto and Samsung gear (but apparently not Moto and AlcaLu, since there haven't been rumblings in those markets).

 

Count me a Nortel fan as well. I know of one carrier who standardized their network around Nortel awhile back (West Central Wireless - CDMA 1x, GSM, EDGE...not sure what they're using for HSPA/+), and another who was Nortel all along (Pocket Communications, now part of CricKet...they actually had the Nortel logo on coverage maps at their kiosks). Plus, I've been quite happy with the LTE speeds I've seen in Ericsson markets (DFW, SAT, AUS), as well as off-peak 3G speeds in pre-NV areas in those same cities.

 

In contrast, I wasn't particularly impressed with 3G in the RDU area on Sprint. Maybe I can blame that on the Motorola equipment used there.

 

One guess as to why AlcaLu didn't fight hard for Sprint's Mountain West deployment is that I don't think they have a big HQ in Colorado anymore. It's Avaya now, which was spun off from Lucent awhile back.

 

It's interesting to see the pre-NV Sprint vendor map, so to speak (unless someone wants to make a map). Quite a bit of Lucent (some now AlcaLu, lots now Samsung). Quite a bit of Nortel (mostly still Ericsson). PR/VI as the long Samsung market. And a few rather large islands (NC/VA, Chicago, Cincinnati, Hawaii) of Motorola. I'd love to know what vendors other networks used, by region, and what they're using now, but my guess is I won't be able to find that information easily, if at all.

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Would love to see a pre-NV map as well for a comparison. Well, the data are there but my mapping skill is not there to create one.

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iansltx: AlcaLu actually still has one of the 3 buildings that Lucent used to have in Colorado, the other 2 are Avaya like you said. But they definitely have reduced their Colorado presence.

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It actually was a blessing in disguise for my Chicago market to be messed up by the moto legacy equipment. It got nv speeded up faster than estimated.

 

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Robert, could Vegas being a Lucent Legacy market have a bearing on a lot of cabinet modifications instead if complete replacement?

 

 

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Robert, could Vegas being a Lucent Legacy market have a bearing on a lot of cabinet modifications instead if complete replacement?

 

 

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All new cabinets at every site, regardless of legacy vendor.

 

Robert via Nexus 7 with Tapatalk HD

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All new cabinets at every site, regardless of legacy vendor.

 

I heard that Dan Hesse's wife is an interior designer, and she was the one who really pushed for all new cabinets.

 

;)

 

AJ

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I heard that Dan Hesse's wife is an interior designer' date=' and she was the one who really pushed for all new cabinets.

 

;)

 

AJ[/quote']

 

That's about it.

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It actually was a blessing in disguise for my Chicago market to be messed up by the moto legacy equipment. It got nv speeded up faster than estimated.

 

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How would you say coverage is as a whole now? Where you live is it heavy 800 voice? How are Lte speeds? Dropped calls? I live in Ohio and I'm hanging on for a change for the better

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How would you say coverage is as a whole now? Where you live is it heavy 800 voice? How are Lte speeds? Dropped calls? I live in Ohio and I'm hanging on for a change for the better

 

Nearly every part of the market I've explored now has 1x 800, even it's not marked yet on the map. With an S4 I'm usually parked on SMR, and perhaps that's why I've never had a dropped call. I can't say if you'd experience more dropped calls since an iPhone defaults to PCS and would therefore have to switch bands more frequently.

 

When you can pick it up, LTE speeds are pretty good. I usually get 8-9 up and down during peak evening hours and 15 down/10 up in the early afternoon, assuming the signal is at least -100 dBm RSRP. If you are really close to the tower or testing early in the morning, the downstream can exceed 20 Mbps. Ping has always been between 50-60ms for me. LTE is available everywhere outdoors, while the odds of getting it indoors are 50/50 (which 800 LTE should rectify for the most part). 3G Ev-DO/eHRPD speeds are back to what they always should have been- between 1-2 Mbps. I don't have a good idea what the new 1xA speeds are there since I almost never lost eHRPD/LTE.

 

If you have a ways to go on your contract I'd try to stick it out, but if you're up for renewal and the service is pretty bad you could switch to a basic phone on T-Mo or ATT/VZW prepaid and wait until your area is finished. Then when you return you can pick up a tri-band smartphone to get the most out of that shiny new network!

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Nearly every part of the market I've explored now has 1x 800, even it's not marked yet on the map. With an S4 I'm usually parked on SMR, and perhaps that's why I've never had a dropped call. I can't say if you'd experience more dropped calls since an iPhone defaults to PCS and would therefore have to switch bands more frequently.

 

When you can pick it up, LTE speeds are pretty good. I usually get 8-9 up and down during peak evening hours and 15 down/10 up in the early afternoon, assuming the signal is at least -100 dBm RSRP. If you are really close to the tower or testing early in the morning, the downstream can exceed 20 Mbps. Ping has always been between 50-60ms for me. LTE is available everywhere outdoors, while the odds of getting it indoors are 50/50 (which 800 LTE should rectify for the most part). 3G Ev-DO/eHRPD speeds are back to what they always should have been- between 1-2 Mbps. I don't have a good idea what the new 1xA speeds are there since I almost never lost eHRPD/LTE.

 

If you have a ways to go on your contract I'd try to stick it out, but if you're up for renewal and the service is pretty bad you could switch to a basic phone on T-Mo or ATT/VZW prepaid and wait until your area is finished. Then when you return you can pick up a tri-band smartphone to get the most out of that shiny new network!

 

Overall my voice qulaity is good, I drop calls less frequently then I did with ATT.  The only thing that I can say isn't really good are my 3g speeds which overall are very slow.  I know it'll be much better in months to come here in Columbus.  There is no real impending reason I need to switch carriers.  The areas I go on vacation in NY and Florida are heavily upgraded ( although still in NV process ).. Also I'm pretty sure if I switch carriers I'll end up regretting it later.  At least if in another 1+ year(s)  if I decide to switch I will have made a fair assesment of the new Sprint network... until then I'm hanging

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