RAvirani Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Rawvega said: That's interesting. Out of curiosity, why is VZW broadcasting B25 LTE via MFBI? Unsure - but it’s definitely live. B2 shows up about as often as B25. 57 minutes ago, dkyeager said: I did not realize that other carriers used so much 5x5. B26 is not as out of place as I thought, even at 3x3. Yes, but AT&T and Verizon have 5x5 lowband on top of 10x10 lowband, often aggregated together, providing effectively a 15x10 or 15x5 pipe. And T-Mobile’s 5x5 B12 is old news... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengen31 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 On 9/30/2017 at 5:39 PM, RAvirani said: Here's a quick summary of the competitive landscape post spectrum swaps in the greater Seattle area: AT&T: - 10x10 B12/17 - 5 MHz B29 - 5x5 B5 - 20x20 B2 - 10x10 B30 Verizon: - 10x10 B13 - 5x5 B5 - 20x20 B4 - 10x10 B2/25 (MFBI is live across the market) Sprint: - 3x3 B26 - 10x10 (soon to be 15x15) B25 - 60MHz B41 T-Mobile: - 5x5 B12 - 20x20 B4 -10x10 B2 Any pics of signal check with VZW showing that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Tengen31 said: Any pics of signal check with VZW showing that? Field test. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuunkychicken Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 On 9/14/2017 at 12:31 PM, S4GRU said: It's on the Doubletree Hotel roof, just south of Southcenter Mall. I found that site a few weeks ago. It's shown on the B26 update map. Thanks for the report. The tower that serves my old store... it’s all grown up now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Noticed something interesting as I opened up Field Test while driving through Seattle last night - there are 7 B41 carriers live throughout the city. I saw EARFCNS 40072, 40270, 40582, 40780, 40978, 41176 and 41374. Before I had only seen 40978, 41176 and 41374. More investigation is definitely needed... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengen31 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Noticed something interesting as I opened up Field Test while driving through Seattle last night - there are 7 B41 carriers live throughout the city. I saw EARFCNS 40072, 40270, 40582, 40780, 40978, 41176 and 41374. Before I had only seen 40978, 41176 and 41374. More investigation is definitely needed...That means small cells. Small cells broadcast different EARCFN numbers than macros do.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, Tengen31 said: That means small cells. Small cells broadcast different EARCFN numbers than macros do. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Small cells in Seattle broadcast on 40072 and 40270. The thing is, I’ve also encountered macros that broadcast on those frequencies...so I definitely need to investigate a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ingenium Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Small cells in Seattle broadcast on 40072 and 40270. The thing is, I’ve also encountered macros that broadcast on those frequencies...so I definitely need to investigate a little more. Yeah there are 2 sets of 2 contiguous carriers below the 3 contiguous macro carriers. So some could be fiber fed small cells (otherwise they'd be limited to 1 carrier), or they're starting deployment of 4th and 5th carriers on macros. We need someone with SCP and earfcn logging to see what shows up. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Noticed something interesting as I opened up Field Test while driving through Seattle last night - there are 7 B41 carriers live throughout the city. I saw EARFCNS 40072, 40270, 40582, 40780, 40978, 41176 and 41374. Before I had only seen 40978, 41176 and 41374. More investigation is definitely needed...You're probably seeing just different sites using different contiguous carriers. It's the same thing in SLC. Part of the metro uses B41H while other parts of it uses B41L. I have several sites here that operate B41L while the vast majority operates B41H. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThorson Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I have been seeing B26 up in Lynnwood for the past week or so. Glad they're finally making it closer to the border. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengen31 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I have been seeing B26 up in Lynnwood for the past week or so. Glad they're finally making it closer to the border.Is that 3x3 or 5x5?Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Tengen31 said: Is that 3x3 or 5x5? Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk It will all be 3x3 in Western Washington. I am working on an internal map based on some source info I have seen recently. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, S4GRU said: It will all be 3x3 in Western Washington. I am working on an internal map based on some source info I have seen recently. Robert An internal map? What do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S4GRU Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, RAvirani said: An internal map? What do you mean? Won't say here. But you will see it in the Honored Premier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, S4GRU said: Won't say here. But you will see it in the Honored Premier. I’ll keep my eye out for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 On 1/1/2018 at 1:26 PM, lilotimz said: You're probably seeing just different sites using different contiguous carriers. It's the same thing in SLC. Part of the metro uses B41H while other parts of it uses B41L. I have several sites here that operate B41L while the vast majority operates B41H. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Ok, so driving through Seattle again today, I was able to confirm that several 8T8R sites are broadcasting EARFCNs: 40072, 40270, 40978, 41176, 41374. Thats 5 carriers with a possible (but unconfirmed) 6th at 39874 (as I have seen that EARFCN in Seattle before). Maybe 8T8Rs are now broadcasting 6 carriers and small cells are using EARFCNs 40582 and 40780? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Ok, so driving through Seattle again today, I was able to confirm that several 8T8R sites are broadcasting EARFCNs: 40072, 40270, 40978, 41176, 41374. Thats 5 carriers with a possible (but unconfirmed) 6th at 39874 (as I have seen that EARFCN in Seattle before). Maybe 8T8Rs are now broadcasting 6 carriers and small cells are using EARFCNs 40582 and 40780?What are the GCI of the cells?If it's 4/5/6 then it'll be sequential 0C/0D/0E and onwards.Small cells (Airspan) will be 01 and then 04(?). Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, lilotimz said: What are the GCI of the cells? If it's 4/5/6 then it'll be sequential 0C/0D/0E and onwards. Small cells (Airspan) will be 01 and then 04(?). Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk I didn't grab Field Test screenshots yesterday but I'll try to go back later this week and do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 10:10 AM, lilotimz said: What are the GCI of the cells? If it's 4/5/6 then it'll be sequential 0C/0D/0E and onwards. Small cells (Airspan) will be 01 and then 04(?). Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Here are a few Field Test screenshots from the 8T8R that’s broadcasting 6 carriers. I’ll head back tomorrow to grab more. https://imgur.com/a/SnNVc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengen31 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Here are a few Field Test screenshots from the 8T8R that’s broadcasting 6 carriers. I’ll head back tomorrow to grab more. https://imgur.com/a/SnNVcI only see 4? You posted some twice.Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilotimz Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Here are a few Field Test screenshots from the 8T8R that’s broadcasting 6 carriers. I’ll head back tomorrow to grab more. https://imgur.com/a/SnNVcNice. That's the 4th carriers based on GCI indicators of 0C and 0E but the 40270 with GCI of 08 is a bit weird.Usually 00-02 is 1st, 03-05 is 2nd, and 06-08 is third for an 8t8r three carrier chain. Interesting.. Try and grab more of the GCIs if you can. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, lilotimz said: Nice. That's the 4th carriers based on GCI indicators of 0C and 0E but the 40270 with GCI of 08 is a bit weird. Usually 00-02 is 1st, 03-05 is 2nd, and 06-08 is third for an 8t8r three carrier chain. Interesting.. Try and grab more of the GCIs if you can. Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Will do today. I was driving past the site at 60 mph in a car so that’s all I was able to grab last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThorson Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 1 hour ago, RAvirani said: Will do today. I was driving past the site at 60 mph in a car so that’s all I was able to grab last time. Where are you grabbing them? I work downtown and I can try to grab some if you'd like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAvirani Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 5 hours ago, JThorson said: Where are you grabbing them? I work downtown and I can try to grab some if you'd like. The site I’ve been getting screenshots from is at the Montlake Blvd NE exit off 520. There are a few other sites in downtown Seattle that are broadcasting six carriers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThorson Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 So I recently saw what I believe to be a new tower. I'm not sure who's on it yet but maybe someone else knows? It is on the corner of NE 45th St and 7th Ave NE in Seattle. You can see it from I-5. I'll try to get a picture of it this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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