is there a possibilty that this is a pre release version with a different (smaller) battery than could end up being made? 

is there a possibilty that this is a pre release version with a different (smaller) battery than could end up being made? 

A possibility, but I'm not going to hold out for them to put a bigger battery in there. They may have figured out a similar method that Apple uses to make batteries much more efficient in a smaller footprint.

I will tell you why no contract for a nexus is so important. Its because for me two reasons. 1. It will get updates straight from google and will not be a repeat of the nexus s or galaxy nexus because Sprint won't sell it directly but it would be compatible with the bands on their network. 2. If you get the nexus off contract then you still have a upgrade available when Sprint releases next year's phones and hey if Sprint does not move fast enough in your neck of the woods with network vision you could leave and take that same nexus 5 to T-mobile or At&t without having to worry about a termination fee. Anymore questions?

Sprint does not want customers to be able buy their phones for cheap because that would mean people are not renewing their contracts making them "high risk" customers. I am sure the system setup will be similar to the iphone in the sense that the device will already need to be in the Sprint system in order to activate on a subscriber.

I think you will be surprised and find that the pure Google experience found in Nexus devices will make that 2300 battery feel a lot bigger than it appears, as it will not have bloat and skins bogging it down.  Software, in many cases, outweighs hardware. 

Well except for the galaxy nexus, that had horrible battery life even with using an extended battery.

Good to see S4GRU being sourced on other sites.

Sprint does not want customers to be able buy their phones for cheap because that would mean people are not renewing their contracts making them "high risk" customers. I am sure the system setup will be similar to the iphone in the sense that the device will already need to be in the Sprint system in order to activate on a subscriber.

Here's a dirty little secret: every CDMA iPhone, whether it be for Sprint, Verizon, Cricket, or any other carrier I'm forgetting, is already in the system. Sprint will activate any of them, it's just that Apple's activation servers won't, due to them locking each device to a specific carrier.

Color me impressed. If this is priced right, we could have a great device on our hands. 

LG, please please please, offer at least 16gb onboard, and not 9gb user available .

Color me impressed. If this is priced right, we could have a great device on our hands. 

 

LG, please please please, offer at least 16gb onboard, and not 9gb user available .

Exactly, I really hope its priced so that I can easily buy one straight up which is what I am planning on doing anyway.  I was considering the note 3 off contract but this will definitely be worth it if costs half as much as the note.

Exactly, I really hope its priced so that I can easily buy one straight up which is what I am planning on doing anyway.  I was considering the note 3 off contract but this will definitely be worth it if costs half as much as the note.

I hope so as well, but I'm kinda not counting on it. After all, the MSRP for the Sprint Galaxy Nexus was $549.99, a sizable $200 more than the Google Play one.

I hope so as well, but I'm kinda not counting on it. After all, the MSRP for the Sprint Galaxy Nexus was $549.99, a sizable $200 more than the Google Play one.

However, the Sprint LTE variant Galaxy Nexus had different hardware and development costs from those of the other Galaxy Nexus variants -- both the generic W-CDMA variant and the VZW LTE variant.  Those differences helped to justify the price differences.

That is not the case this time, as the single North American LTE variant serves AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint.  A "glass half full" way of looking at it is that the 3GPP only users are getting stuck with helping to subsidize the 3GPP2 hardware and development costs -- a nice change of pace.

So, if the Nexus 5 (or whatever) sells unlocked on Google Play for $xxx, Sprint will be hard pressed to sell it off contract for $xxx + 200.

We shall see...

AJ

I hope so as well, but I'm kinda not counting on it. After all, the MSRP for the Sprint Galaxy Nexus was $549.99, a sizable $200 more than the Google Play one.

The bigger problem that Sprint and LG may have on their hands is carefully differentiating this handset from the G2.  Otherwise, if both are the same price, why would users opt for the G2?

One possibility for Sprint could be that the Nexus 5 gets sold only off contract for $350-400, possibly even through Google Play, while the G2 gets sold on contract for $200 subsidized. 

AJ

Has anyone seen the gif that someone made?  They matched up the last pic in the FCC filing with the frame from the video, and it matches PERFECTLY.  So I am wondering, did we see it pass through?

The bigger problem that Sprint and LG may have on their hands is carefully differentiating this handset from the G2.  Otherwise, if both are the same price, why would users opt for the G2?

 

One possibility for Sprint could be that the Nexus 5 gets sold only off contract for $350-400, possibly even through Google Play, while the G2 gets sold on contract for $200 subsidized. 

 

AJ

Good point, but couldn't sprint offer the nexus at the same $199 on contract as the lg? Didn't tmobile do the same thing with the nexus 4 where in store the off contract price was 550 or subsidized at $199 even though you could have gotten it straight from the play store for $300-$350?

Good point, but couldn't sprint offer the nexus at the same $199 on contract as the lg? Didn't tmobile do the same thing with the nexus 4 where in store the off contract price was 550 or subsidized at $199 even though you could have gotten it straight from the play store for $300-$350?

But T-Mobile did not also have a variant of the Optimus G.  It had only the Nexus 4, right?

In this case, I cannot imagine that LG would be happy about a less expensive subsidized Nexus 5 in store undercutting its subsidized G2 sales.

AJ

An almost single-SKU North American device. Nice!

Not advocating for it either way but if Sprint and T-Mobile get too many of these kind of devices on their networks, merger rumours might start popping up again. It will also be interesting to see what band support the upcoming iPhone 5S will have.

BTW, technically one could say that the device supports 4 FDD bands since band 5 is a subset of band 26.

An almost single-SKU North American device. Nice!

 

Not advocating for it either way but if Sprint and T-Mobile get too many of these kind of devices on their networks, merger rumours might start popping up again. It will also be interesting to see what band support the upcoming iPhone 5S will have.

 

BTW, technically one could say that the device supports 4 FDD bands since band 5 is a subset of band 26.

Technically, you could say that. But for marketing purposes, and for lack of inter-carrier roaming agreements, you can't. That's why it's listed as 7 distinct LTE bands. Some of the FCC docs do post LTE band 2, but 25 is the superset band, so you don't have to even put it in.

The bigger problem that Sprint and LG may have on their hands is carefully differentiating this handset from the G2.  Otherwise, if both are the same price, why would users opt for the G2?

 

One possibility for Sprint could be that the Nexus 5 gets sold only off contract for $350-400, possibly even through Google Play, while the G2 gets sold on contract for $200 subsidized. 

 

AJ

Well off the bat, the look between the G2 and the Nexus 5 are different.  The camera and power/volume button placement is different between the two phones. Also the Nexus 5 would run pure vanilla Android with the latest software updates while the G2 would run LG's Optimus overlay on Android 4.2.2.  Also the G2 has some unique features such as the "Knock-on", high fidelity and bitrate audio playback, other LG gimmicky features, etc while the Nexus 5 would have none of those features since it just plain vanilla android.

Also I don't believe the Nexus cameras in the past have been known to be top tier even with the Nexus 4 so I expect a lower quality camera on the Nexus 5 than on the G2.  There are definitely some clear tradeoffs between a Nexus 5 and the G2 so I wouldn't worry so much about that.  The key for Sprint is to start selling the G2 ASAP around the same time as the other carriers.

Sprint does not want customers to be able buy their phones for cheap because that would mean people are not renewing their contracts making them "high risk" customers. I am sure the system setup will be similar to the iphone in the sense that the device will already need to be in the Sprint system in order to activate on a subscriber.

Why would Sprint not want BYOD support?  

It will save them billions in contractual (prepaid/negotiated) obligations to OEM's (think $15.5B obligation to Apple over several years).  Not to mention that Sprint (like every other carrier besides select T-Mo plans) does not offer a rate plan that is lower without a subsidy.

Whether you buy the device outright or at the subsidized rate sold through them (e.g. $199 for a GS4, $249 for a GNote2) you still pay the same monthly service fees.

Almost the identical size as the Optimus G with a bigger screen. Definitly a Buy in my book awesome write-up AJ

But T-Mobile did not also have a variant of the Optimus G.  It had only the Nexus 4, right?

 

In this case, I cannot imagine that LG would be happy about a less expensive subsidized Nexus 5 in store undercutting its subsidized G2 sales.

 

AJ

Not sure about a tmobile optimus g but I agree.  So do you think that the nexus 5 will only be available from the playstore?

If they sell this off-contract, this will be my next phone (my S III will go to another family member).

If they sell this on-contract, this will probably be my next phone. Sprint will probably take my S III in the name of early upgrades.

I really, really hope that this is sold unlocked. Because then I can just swap out my AT&T (AirVoice), T-Mobile (data-only) and Sprint SIMs as needed with one device. And I'd have LTE on whatever service I was using. That's powerful.

If they sell this off-contract, this will be my next phone (my S III will go to another family member).

 

If they sell this on-contract, this will probably be my next phone. Sprint will probably take my S III in the name of early upgrades.

 

I really, really hope that this is sold unlocked. Because then I can just swap out my AT&T (AirVoice), T-Mobile (data-only) and Sprint SIMs as needed with one device. And I'd have LTE on whatever service I was using. That's powerful.

If you want to hold on to your S III, swap with an older phone and you don't mind Sprint recycling and then go in and do the early upgrade. The reps have to take the handset currently activated at the time of the early upgrade. Ex, swap phones with the family member that is getting the S III and recycle their old handset.

looks like the new nexus will be 16GB

http://www.scribd.com/doc/173744848/LG-D821

Manual just Leaked online!

Time to revive this old thread.  It is available for pre-order now and my only legitimate gripe is that there is only a 16gb version available on Sprint.

Of course some may take offense at the price seeing as Sprint is charging $449 for the 16gb model and a purchase direct from Google goes for $349/16gb and $399/32 respectively.  I have no problem buying devices outright but have a hard time stomaching the limited onboard space available on devices lately.