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(UPDATED) A short time from now in a Galaxy not far away...

by Andrew J. Shepherd
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 10:10 AM MDT   Update: The Samsung review embargo has been lifted overnight, and Galaxy S4 reviews are being published around the Web today. Thanks to one of our favorite, highly thorough reviewers, Brian Klug at AnandTech, we can confirm that the Galaxy S4 follows the recent HTC One in providing a removable micro-SIM. So, while two data points do not necessarily a trend make, the One and Galaxy S4 do suggest that removable SIMs for Sprint LTE handsets are here to stay.   Arguably the most hotly anticipated handset of the year, rivaling even the next iPhone, the Samsung Galaxy S4 in its Sprint variant popped up in the FCC OET (Office of Engineering and Technology) database late yesterday, meaning that the next Galaxy is now authorized to operate in the US and is likely just a few weeks away from a Sprint street date. Not a revolutionary overhaul of the very successful Galaxy S3 platform of last year, the Galaxy S4 maintains a strong family resemblance to its older sibling but does generally and for Sprint specifically add a number of evolutionary enhancements, such as a larger 1080p display, world roaming capability, wireless charging cover functionality, and some transmit power increases. Thus, adding to S4GRU's long standing series of articles on the FCC OET authorizations for the HTC EVO 4G LTE, Samsung Galaxy S3, Motorola Photon Q 4G, LG Optimus G, Samsung Galaxy Note 2, and HTC One is our run through of the RF capabilities of the Galaxy S4: CDMA1X + EV-DO band classes 0, 1, 10 (i.e. CDMA1X + EV-DO 850/1900/800) LTE band 25 (i.e. LTE 1900; PCS A-G blocks) LTE 5 MHz FDD carrier bandwidth LTE UE category 3 W-CDMA bands 2, 5 (i.e. W-CDMA 1900/850) GSM 850/1900 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi 802.11n MCS index 7, 40 MHz carrier bandwidth 802.11ac MCS index 9, 80 MHz carrier bandwidth SVLTE support, including SVLTE and simultaneous 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi tether RF ERP/EIRP maximum: 25.39 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 23.25 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 24.62 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 22.83 dBm (LTE 1900) NFC antenna integrated into battery cover CDMA1X/EV-DO Rx antenna diversity Antenna locations: (see FCC OET diagram below) Simultaneous transmission paths: (see FCC OET diagram below)     Breaking down the RF specs, honestly, the Galaxy S4 may come across as a disappointment to many. That is primarily, though, because the reality could hardly live up to the expectations. First, the Galaxy S4 does not support band 26 LTE 800 nor band 41 TD-LTE 2600. Reports are that Sprint will not release any dual band LTE devices and will skip straight to tri band. Those devices, however, are still at least six months off, so like all Sprint LTE devices before it, the Galaxy S4 is limited to band 25 LTE 1900 on the native Sprint network. Additionally, the Galaxy S4's band 25 LTE 1900 is limited to 5 MHz FDD bandwidth. This seems to be largely a Samsung quirk, as Sprint LTE devices from other OEMs are tested and authorized for 10 MHz FDD (or greater) as well. That being said, this will likely be of no consequence, as all Sprint LTE FDD deployment for at least the next several years is apt to remain based on 5 MHz FDD carriers. Also, unlike the recent HTC One, the Galaxy S4 does not appear to be particularly optimized for the Sprint LTE network. Using the FCC OET authorization documents, we can gauge a device's RF prowess by examining its maximum transmit ERP/EIRP and at what frequency that max occurs. This is by no means a perfect simulacrum for both transmission and reception, but we can say that Galaxy S4 LTE is at its max RF wise in the traditional PCS A-F blocks, not the PCS G block 1912.5 MHz center frequency where Sprint is deploying its initial LTE carrier nationwide. Staying on ERP/EIRP discussion, the Galaxy S4 looks to be a rather strong performer on roaming CDMA1X/EV-DO 850 and the now being deployed Sprint native CDMA1X 800. Both show quite high ERP. On the flip side, the EIRP for CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900 is good, too, but oddly less than the ERP of the CDMA2000 airlinks below 1 GHz that enjoy significant propagation advantages. With most other handsets, the transmit power relationship is reversed, CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900 transmit power being greater to compensate for its greater path loss. Furthermore, ERP/EIRP was tested with both the standard battery cover and the wireless charging cover. A definite caveat, the wireless charging cover reduces ERP/EIRP by up to 6 dB. Most likely, the induction coil in the wireless charging cover absorbs some of the transmitted RF, thus reducing the radiated power. For some users, the convenience of wireless charging may outweigh the hit to wireless performance. But S4GRU cannot generally recommend wireless charging due to its inefficiency (much power is wasted as heat) and detriment to RF. As for simultaneous voice and data, the Galaxy S4 does support SVLTE but is the latest in a long line of Sprint LTE handsets now to forgo SVDO. Realistically, this comes as no great surprise, as we have not seen SVDO capability in any new handset since last summer. Either this is a limitation of the Qualcomm MDM9615 baseband modem that has become standard equipment or SVDO is no longer a strong priority as Sprint LTE coverage grows weekly. Regardless, CDMA1X and EV-DO share a transmit path (indicated in the FCC OET diagram above); hence, simultaneous CDMA1X voice and EV-DO data is not supported. As S4GRU has reported in the past, the FCC OET authorization documents are not required to disclose world phone capabilities because those bands are not in use in the US. However, the presence of GSM 850/1900 and W-CDMA bands 2, 5 (i.e. W-CDMA 1900/850) is strongly indicative of the inclusion of international roaming capabilities, too. Indeed, other outlets are reporting that all variants of the Galaxy S4 include at a minimum quad band GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and W-CDMA bands 1, 2, 5, 8 (i.e. W-CDMA 2100+1900/1900/850/900) -- the latter supporting DC-HSPA+ on the downlink and HSUPA on the uplink. While we cannot confirm these reports at this time, they certainly do seem plausible. What also remains unconfirmed at this point is the SIM situation: embedded or removable. As soon as this info comes to light, we will update the article.   Source: FCC

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"Magical Mystery Phone Tour"

by Josh McDaniel
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Monday, April 8, 2013 - 1:19 PM MDT   On April 5, the mysterious Samsung SPH-L500 passed thru the FCC OET (Office of Engineering and Technology), indicating that it is now authorized for use in the US on the Sprint network. S4GRU can report only the details that are currently available, but we will update the article as more info emerges. The phone measures roughly 5.24 inches tall by 2.68 inches wide, making it slightly smaller than the Galaxy S3 and S4 and slightly larger than the Galaxy S3 mini that it was originally rumored to be based off of, and comes with a 1.4 GHz dual core processor. As was previously noted from the Bluetooth SIG report in November, this phone has support for Bluetooth 4.0 and the following profiles: HFP1.5, HSP, OPP, A2DP, AVRCP, GAVDP, PAN, PBAP, HID, and MAP.   As you can see from the antenna diagram, CDMA1X and EVDO share the same antenna path, so SVDO is not possible, but SVLTE is possible. The phone also supports simultaneous LTE and Wi- Fi tether on 2.4 GHz, but not on 5 GHz. Lastly, it is not capable of supporting simultaneous Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, as they also share the same antenna path. CDMA1X + EV-DO bands 0, 1, 10 (i.e. CDMA1X + EV-DO 850/1900/800) LTE band 25 (i.e. LTE 1900; PCS A-G blocks) LTE 5 MHz FDD channel bandwidth SVLTE support, including SVLTE and simultaneous 802.11b/g/n 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi tether Maximum RF ERP/EIRP: 21.45 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 23.11 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 23.12 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 22.20 dBm (LTE 1900) LTE antenna configuration 1 uplink, 2 downlink (i.e. 2x2 downlink MIMO) 802.11 a/b/g/n Wi-Fi NFC with antenna built into battery According to the HTTP header from cloud4sites.com, the SPH-L500 has Android 4.1.2. SXTPdevelopers.com member “sextape” rumored the specs on the phone to be a 4.65” screen with a resolution of 1280 x 720, 8 MP rear camera and 1.9 MP front facing camera, 1 GB RAM, 8 GB built-in memory, and microSD Card slot supporting up to 64 GB cards. The chipset is said to be the Qualcomm MSM8930AA, which is apparently the same chipset found in the new HTC First by Facebook and HTC. If the SPH-L500 is released with these specs, they are pretty decent for a mid-range phone, considering all mid-range Sprint LTE phones up until now have only had 5 MP rear cameras and 4” 480 x 800 resolution displays.   Sources: FCC, cloud4sites, SXTP

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Mid-range LG LTE coming to Sprint prepaid/wholesale?

by Josh McDaniel
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Thursday, May 2, 2013 - 9:35 AM MDT   Last year, LG released a mid-range device that made its way from one CDMA carrier to another. This year appears to be no exception. The LG LG870 recently passed through the FCC OET (Office of Engineering and Technology) with Sprint LTE and band 10 CDMA2000 on board. If the LG Viper (LS840) last year is any indication, it was released as the Connect (MS840) on MetroPCS, and then as the Lucid (VS840) on Verizon before it came to Sprint. In January of this year, MetroPCS released the Spirit (MS870), and earlier this month, Verizon released the Lucid 2 (VS870). Now, it seems to be Sprint’s turn again. However, it currently appears that Sprint is releasing this handset on its Boost brand under the codename FX1, as the model number is LG870, not LS870. (As of now, the name and that it may be released only on Boost has not been confirmed.) But all previous Sprint LG phones from last year have model numbers beginning with LS. The Bluetooth 4.0 profile supports HSP, HFP 1.6, A2DP, AVRCP 1.3, OPP, FTP, PBAP, SPP, HID, GAVDP, SDAP, PAN, and MAP, according to the Bluetooth SIG, which also lists the phone as “(LG870 (for Sprint/Wholesale)).” Sprint wholesale partner Ting, anyone? As for specs, if this phone is like its 870 model counterparts, it will have a 1.2 GHz dual core processor (possibly Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Plus MSM8960) with 1 GB RAM, 5 MP rear camera with 1080p HD video recording, and 1.3 MP front facing camera. According to the FCC authorization docs, LG sent the handset to testing with Android 4.0.4 on board, but according to cloud4sites mtest, it has Jelly Bean 4.1.2 on board. So, hopefully it will be released with 4.1.2. CDMA1X + EV-DO band classes 0, 1, 10 (i.e. CDMA1X + EV-DO 850/1900/800) LTE band class 25 (LTE 1900; PCS A-G blocks) LTE 3, 5, 10 MHz FDD channel bandwidths SVLTE support, including SVLTE and simultaneous 802.11b/g/n 2.4GHz Wi-Fi tether Maximum RF ERP/EIRP: 26.60 dBm (CDMA1X 850), 26.26 dBm (EV-DO 850), 26.53 dBm (CDMA1X 1900), 26.16 dBm (EV-DO 1900), 25.06 dBm (CDMA1X 800), 25.20 (EV-DO 800), 25.11 dBm (LTE 1900, 3MHz FDD), 24.93 dBm (LTE 1900, 5MHz FDD), 24.70 dBm (LTE 1900, 10 MHz FDD) 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi NFC In their FCC OET authorization filings, OEMs customarily request temporary confidentiality regarding internal and external photos of their devices. But in an unusual move, LG has requested permanent confidentiality for, among other things, antenna distance and simultaneous scenarios for SAR analysis. So, no antenna diagram is available at this time, nor maybe ever unless a teardown review is forthcoming.   Sources: FCC, Bluetooth SIG, Cloud4sites mtest

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"What's the frequency, Kenneth?" Interpreting your engineering screen. Part two.

by Andrew J. Shepherd
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Friday, May 10, 2013 - 12:35 PM MDT   Welcome back to S4GRU's continuing series focused on understanding many of the signal metrics displayed on your devices' engineering screens. If you missed part one a few weeks ago, that is a good place to start for background info. Last time out, we covered 3GPP2 band class 1 PCS 1900 MHz, in which Sprint has long operated its CDMA2000 network, and 3GPP band 25 PCS 1900 MHz, in which Sprint is currently deploying its LTE network. Today, let us begin with the last of Sprint's current native spectrum usage -- 3GPP2 band class 10 SMR 800 MHz. This is what 3GPP2 also calls the "Secondary 800 MHz band," and we will understand why when we finish up with band class 0 Cellular 850 MHz a bit later today. First, take a look at the following CDMA1X engineering screenshot:     This handset is camped on Sprint's brand new band class 10 CDMA1X 800 overlay, which is replacing iDEN 800 and is currently available in select markets around the country. Now, as we did last time, we can take into account the band class and carrier channel number, then use the appropriate formulas to calculate both uplink and downlink center frequencies:      uplink center frequency (MHz) = 806 + (0.025 × carrier channel)      downlink center frequency (MHz) = 851 + (0.025 × carrier channel) In other words, the spacing in between potential carrier channel assignments in band class 10 is 0.025 MHz (or 25 kHz). This is due to the SMR 800 MHz band's legacy of dispatch and iDEN, both of which conform to 25 kHz channelization. And the band class 10 range of channel numbers extends from 0-719. So, using our formulas, band class 10 carrier channel 476 in the included screenshot has an uplink center frequency of 817.9 MHz, a downlink center frequency of 862.9 MHz. This is the one and only band class 10 carrier channel that Sprint will employ across most of the country. In parts of the Southeast where SouthernLINC also operates in rebanded SMR 800 MHz spectrum, Sprint users will instead see band class 10 channel 526, which has uplink and downlink center frequencies of 819.15 MHz and 864.15 MHz, respectively, just as S4GRU detailed in an article a year ago. As for band 26 LTE 800, well, that should be coming online in the next several months, but no devices are yet available. So, for both of those reasons, we cannot post any engineering screenshots. What we can anticipate, however, based on SMR 800 MHz spectrum constraints, is that Sprint's 5 MHz FDD LTE 800 carrier likely will be centered somewhere in the 821.1-821.5 MHz x 866.1-866.5 MHz ranges, translating to uplink and downlink EARFCN ranges of 26761-26765 and 8761-8765, respectively. I will be out in the field with my spectrum analyzer in the coming months, ready to capture and publish a first peek at the LTE 800 carrier. And expect a follow up article on LTE 800 engineering later this year. Now, let us conclude with a look at Sprint roaming service in 3GPP2 band class 0 Cellular 850 MHz. Or this is what 3GPP2 has traditionally referred to as the "800 MHz band." And that, as I piqued earlier, is why the "Secondary 800 MHz band" name comes into play for band class 10 SMR 800 MHz. In more recent years, the "800 MHz" nomenclature has become problematic, as it makes distinguishing between band class 0 and band class 10 difficult for less informed users. For a good example of this, see the iPhone 4S tech specs, which mislead many into thinking that it supports Sprint's band class 10 CDMA1X 800 overlay. For this reason, I have long advocated using "Cellular 850 MHz" as distinct terminology. That background aside, let us examine a CDMA1X engineering screen of a Sprint device roaming on VZW:     This handset is idling on channel assignment 425. Again, we can use the appropriate formulas to calculate both uplink and downlink center frequencies:      uplink center frequency (MHz) = 825 + (0.03 × carrier channel)      downlink center frequency (MHz) = 870 + (0.03 × carrier channel) So, that VZW channel 425 is centered at 837.75 MHz x 882.75 MHz, which is toward the bottom of the Cellular B block license, as we will see in just a moment. First, in the Cellular 850 MHz band, channelization is 0.03 MHz (or 30 kHz), as that dates back to the original analog AMPS standard, which used 30 kHz FM channels and got us all started on this cellularized wireless network journey. Second, we encounter a complication with band class 0. The above formula works only for a subset of channel assignments, 1-799. For channel assignments 991-1023, we have to use slightly modified formulas:      uplink center frequency (MHz) = 825 + [0.03 × (carrier channel − 1023)]      downlink center frequency (MHz) = 870 + [0.03 × (carrier channel − 1023)] The reason for this complication is complicated itself. When the FCC originally created the Cellular 850 MHz band plan in the 1980s, it was 825-845 MHz x 870-890 MHz, divided into two equal 10 MHz FDD (10 MHz x 10 MHz) licenses: Cellular A block (825-835 MHz x 870-880 MHz) and Cellular B block (835-845 MHz x 880-890 MHz). Each block consists of 333 AMPS channels, A block covering 1-333, B block running 334-666. Not long after, the FCC expanded the Cellular 850 MHz band, but it could not do so by simply adding spectrum exclusively at the bottom or the top of the band plan. Because of spectrum constraints and equal license bandwidth, the FCC had to add a sliver at the bottom of the band plan and two at the top of the band plan. The additions became known as "A low," "A high," and "B high." See my band plan graphic below: Since "A high" (1.5 MHz FDD) and "B high" (2.5 MHz FDD) continue as upper end extensions of the band plan, they follow the original center frequency formula, adding channels 667-799. "A low" (1 MHz FDD) tacked on at the bottom of the original plan is the anomaly. It requires its own center frequency formula and adds channels 991-1023. Also, note the missing channels 800-990. Those are a mystery, unbeknownst even to me. Additionally, because it is only 1 MHz FDD, "A low" is not frequently used for CDMA2000 carrier channels, which are always 1.25 MHz FDD in bandwidth. So, many of the carrier channel assignments in "A low" are invalid, since they would cause the CDMA1X or EV-DO carrier to extend off the lower edge of the band. If "A low" is utilized, the only permissible channel assignments are 1013-1023, all of which cause the CDMA2000 carrier to extend into the original A block. So, if you ever encounter a band class 0 channel assignment in the 1013-1023 range, you have found something of a rare bird. Well, that covers the relationships among bands, band classes, carrier channel assignments, EARFCNs, and center frequencies. Next time, we will turn our attention to another signal metric. I am thinking maybe SIDs and NIDs or PN offsets but have not decided yet. See you then...   Sources: 3GPP, 3GPP2, FCC

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"What's the frequency, Kenneth?" Interpreting your engineering screen. Part one.

by Andrew J. Shepherd
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Friday, April 26, 2013 - 6:29 AM MDT   A significant piece of S4GRU's educational mission is helping our readers understand what goes on behind the scenes and underneath the hood in the operation of a wireless network. This often requires getting readers to access internal engineering (or debug) screens on their handsets to view numbers and metrics, such as PN offset, Ec/Io, cell identity, etc., as we track the progress of Sprint's Network Vision deployment around the country. So, S4GRU staff thought it long overdue to publish a tutorial on what all of those engineering screen numbers and metrics actually mean. And in this first part of what will hopefully be a long running series, we will examine frequencies, namely center frequencies. First, let us kick things off with CDMA2000 (e.g. CDMA1X/EV-DO). CDMA2000 is divided into band classes. Those band classes basically represent spectrum bands of operation. Some common CDMA2000 band classes familiar to Sprint users include: band class 0 (Cellular 850 MHz), band class 1 (PCS 1900 MHz), band class 10 (SMR 800 MHz), and band class 15 (AWS 2100+1700 MHz). Then, each band class is further divided into carrier channels. These carrier channel numbers represent the actual RF locations -- center frequencies -- of the carrier channels that we use for voice and data services. To illustrate, see the EV-DO engineering screenshot below, specifically the "Channel Number" and "Band Class" fields:     Taking into account the band class and carrier channel number, we can use the following formulas to calculate both uplink and downlink center frequencies:      uplink center frequency (MHz) = 1850 + (0.05 × carrier channel)      downlink center frequency (MHz) = 1930 + (0.05 × carrier channel) In other words, the spacing in between potential carrier channel assignments in band class 1 is 0.05 MHz (or 50 kHz). And the band class 1 range of carrier channel numbers extends from 0-1199. So, using our formulas, the band class 1 carrier channel 100 in the included screenshot has an uplink center frequency of 1855 MHz, a downlink center frequency of 1935 MHz. This FDD paired set of center frequencies falls toward the lower end of the PCS A block 30 MHz license, which is 1850-1865 MHz x 1930-1945 MHz. Next, we can shift over to the 3GPP (e.g. LTE) side, which does things a bit differently. 3GPP sets forth bands, instead of band classes, but otherwise, the functions of bands and band classes are the same. In the US, common 3GPP bands for LTE include: band 4 (AWS 2100+1700 MHz), band 13 (Upper 700 MHz), and band 17 (Lower 700 MHz). But we are most interested in band 25 (PCS 1900 MHz + G block), the band in which Sprint is initially deploying LTE. As with carrier channel numbers in CDMA2000 band classes, 3GPP bands are subdivided into Evolved Absolute Radio Frequency Channel Numbers (EARFCNs). And like carrier channel numbers, EARFCNs indicate center frequencies. However, EARFCNs do so separately for uplink and downlink, as LTE allows for different pairings of uplink and downlink via carrier aggregation. Now, see the LTE engineering screenshot below for its "Band," "UL channel," and "DL channel" fields:     Per band 25, we can enter the "UL/DL channels" (i.e. EARFCNs) into the following formulas to determine again both uplink and downlink center frequencies:      uplink center frequency (MHz) = 1850 + [0.1 × (uplink EARFCN - 26040)]      downlink center frequency (MHz) = 1930 + [0.1 × (downlink EARFCN - 8040)] In this case, spacing between EARFCNs is 0.1 MHz (or 100 kHz). Additionally, the uplink EARFCN range is 26040-26689, the downlink EARFCN range 8040-8689, both for band 25. And in the end, EARFCN 26665 in the included screenshot has an uplink center frequency of 1912.5 MHz, while EARFCN 8665 has a downlink center frequency of 1992.5 MHz. This is an FDD paired set of center frequencies, not a carrier aggregated set, and it resides exactly in the middle of the PCS G block 10 MHz license, which is 1910-1915 MHz x 1990-1995 MHz. In part two, we will take a similar look at center frequencies in the PCS 1900 MHz band's lower frequency cousins, SMR 800 MHz and Cellular 850 MHz. So, stay tuned.   Sources: 3GPP, 3GPP2

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Married to it

by Christina Herron
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Thursday, February 14, 2013 - 3:10 AM MST   Travel back with me a few weeks ago. It’s a cold Saturday afternoon, and I am standing and staring into a gated area near a cell phone tower. My date for this outing is frantically taking pictures and discussing the exciting upgrades to the equipment which have occurred since our last visit. I have no idea what he is talking about, all the mechanical stuff looks exactly like it did a few weeks ago. To me, it happens to look exactly like the 3 other sites we visited today. Not wanting to look totally stupid, I just smile and nod. Yep, this is what I do for fun for my 17th wedding anniversary. I am officially married to a cell phone dork. Since May 2011, I have had many a romantic dinner which usually includes at least a drive-by various cell towers. I have smiled and nodded through countless conversations which are dominated by the words, “LTE”, “Wi-Max” and “backhaul”. I still have no idea what any of this means. I have taken vacations based on the availability of 4G coverage. This past summer our family ended up in Waco, Texas. Not exactly the place one would call a cosmopolitan vacation destination. At least we got to go to the Baylor football season opener. We ran tests in between plays, and my husband would constantly grab my phone to look at an Engineering screen. I have changed hotel and restaurant reservations based on cell tower locations. My kids can spot a cell tower from 5 miles away. Family outings generally include a visit to one. My oldest son understands which panel is which on the cell tower. He also understands the secret language of cell phone technology which my husband speaks. I just continue to smile and nod. Many friends ask me in wonder why I allow my date nights to be interrupted by visits to cell phone towers and discussions about things I don’t understand. The answer is simple; I have the best husband in the world. S4GRU is my husband’s passion. He loves all things Sprint, cell phone, and the technology that goes with it. He is passionate about the site and getting the information to its members. He gives unselfishly to it while still honoring all his work, home and community obligations. When he isn’t working on this site; he is being an awesome dad, devoted husband, faithful employee and a good citizen. The only sacrifice I make is that I occasionally have to smile and nod, so I don’t look like I have no idea what is going on. He sacrifices his sleep, his free time and sometimes his sanity to make sure we are all happy. I couldn’t ask for more than that. Today is Valentine’s Day, the day of romance. I am looking forward to a romantic dinner at my favorite restaurant and maybe a box of Godiva chocolate. There are two things I am pretty sure of. There will be at least one stop at a cell tower during the night, and I will probably be doing a lot of smiling and nodding.  

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Clearwire…a little LTE plastic surgery and suddenly the Belle of the Ball?

by Robert Herron
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 - 5:37 PM MST   Clearwire. Clearwire. Clearwire! Clearwire!!! And Dan Hesse wakes up. Clearwire has often been the bain of Sprint’s existence. Once hopeful adopted child. Then run amok with its own plans, disregarding everything its Daddy taught them. And then prodigal child returning home. And now Clearwire is out of wireless rehab with its new CEO Eric Prusch and trying to get things turned around. And its future is looking more promising than its past.   Come on? Really? An iPhone that runs on Clearwire? Stop joshing me… Clearwire is attempting to get its LTE feet under them and transition into a high performance TD-LTE network from its previous 4G WiMax attempt. This is seen as very good news to most. Now there are even rumors of a chance to host the new LTE iPhone that’s anticipated. Is it possible the next iPhone LTE could support Clearwire’s TD-LTE network? Clearwire CEO Eric Prusch told CNET that there would be no inherent difficulties for Apple to include support for its TD-LTE network in the iPhone 5 LTE. Prusch stopped short of saying whether he knew that the next iPhone would support running on Clearwire’s upcoming network. Of course Sprint and Apple have declined to comment. Sprint and Clearwire are collaborating to seamlessly integrate Sprint’s FD-LTE network with Clearwire’s TD-LTE network. There are several chipsets on the market that support both together, and more expected. This coming together in a new iPhone LTE product is now becoming more plausible.   TD-LTE is gaining deployment momentum globally Clearwire isn’t going it alone this time with TD-LTE. They certainly weren’t the only WiMax adopters in the world, but in the American wireless industry they sure felt like odd ducks on their own. This time, Clearwire is working together with several TD-LTE carriers internationally in the GTI (Global TD-LTE Initiative). Most notably, China Mobile. China Mobile is rapidly building out its first 20,000 TD-LTE sites this year. China Mobile and Clearwire are working together to ensure interoperability between the networks. TD-LTE networks are also under way in India and Japan this year. More to follow. A majority of new LTE deployments slated to start in the next few years are TD-LTE networks like Clearwire. This is because much of the left-to-be-exploited spectrum globally tends to be higher unpaired frequencies, which TDD is designed for.   Clearwire in turn gets to save Sprint, after Sprint saved it Sprint is deploying its own FD-LTE network nationwide on 1900MHz PCS spectrum and later adding 800MHz SMR spectrum. However, Sprint’s new LTE network will not provide enough capacity it will need for its customers when they start to migrate to LTE en masse in dense subscriber environments. Sprint needs Clearwire for additional LTE capacity. Some estimate that Sprint could feel the pinch on their new LTE networks in as soon as 12 months after initial deployment in dense urban areas. This makes use of Clearwire for additional LTE capacity crucial for Sprint in the long term in places where Sprint’s two native 5x5 FD-LTE carriers on 800MHz and 1900MHz start to suffer from reduced performance due to congestion.   Retail model out, Wholesale to the future Clearwire started to transition away from a full retail model in 2011, as they started shuttering its stores nationwide. Clearwire continues to pare down its retail business strategy, choosing to only pursue an online presence for this category. They also recently started pulling back from its old generation Pre-WiMax Expedience network. Now only leaving a static WiMax network they have left to Ericsson to maintain until 2015 and the build out of their new TD-LTE network for their future. Clearwire’s future revenue generation is largely squared with a revised wholesale business model. Currently, that is almost solely dependent on Sprint. However, Clearwire wants to diversify its wholesale business model and take on several new customers. And it will take having its new LTE network up and running to do that on a large scale. The wholesale LTE business climate has definitely improved with the sudden demise of LightSquared. Many speculated whether the market could support two LTE wholesale companies.   Looking for a LTE partner to do-si-do? Clearwire is aggressively seeking new LTE partnerships. They would likely partner with anyone needing a supplemental LTE network. At first thought, it may be easy to conclude that Clearwire would be a good fit as a LTE partner roaming for second tier and regional wireless carriers. These were LightSquared’s bread and butter. But LightSquared was looking to build a nationwide network on 1600MHz. Clearwire does not have those luxuries, it will neither be nationwide anytime soon, nor will its coverage even be comprehensive across any single market.   Clearwire will not be a good fit for roaming deals, expanding 4G coverage nationally for smaller networks. However, Clearwire could be a good fit for those same wireless carriers in markets where they both are already co-located. For instance, let’s take San Francisco for example. MetroPCS has good coverage from its LTE network there. But Metro PCS has pretty low 4G speeds and low capacity. Clearwire is likely to deploy its TD-LTE network in a market like San Francisco early. So when Clearwire gets its SFO coverage well deployed, it will be on hundreds of sites around Frisco. The Clearwire coverage from these 100’s of sites will look like reverse swiss cheese, though. There will be a whole bunch of cheesy holes of LTE coverage all over. Each one of these Clearwire crop circles of LTE coverage will be blazing fast and support a lot of users with all the spectrum that Clearwire sits on. But in going from crop circle to crop circle, you need LTE in between them on the native network. So Clearwire will not be much help to those wireless carriers or MVNO’s who have no LTE network of their own to cover those notable gaps between Clearwire cells. Companies like MetroPCS would do very well in a Clearwire TD-LTE wholesale environment, where Clearwire was providing additional capacity in markets that Metro PCS already serves with their own LTE network. Clearwire would not be a good fit for a wireless company that has no LTE network at all. Because the customer would then constantly be going in and out of LTE coverage within a market. This will not create a positive customer environment.   But wait, there is a catch! Another potential issue with a wireless carrier like MetroPCS partnering up with Clearwire, is how do they handle non-native areas? Should Metro PCS LTE customers only be allowed to use Clearwire TD-LTE in markets where there is a Metro PCS native LTE network? What if that SFO customer traveled to Seattle? MetroPCS does not have a native LTE network in Seattle. In this case, MetroPCS would have to decide whether to let their customers use the Clearwire TD-LTE in non-native LTE areas and have frustratingly spotty service, or to just block that Clearwire service ever from even being used. This is kind of an uncomfortable choice to make. The issues with smaller wireless companies using Clearwire for an out of market LTE roaming experience are starting to be highlighted and magnified with this instance.   Yeah, there is a work around for that…Sprint One solution to the problems above is to set up a wholesale or roaming deal with Sprint and Clearwire together, or even a MVNO with both companies. Or better yet, Sprint earned the ability to wholesale Clearwire’s TD-LTE network in the past round of negotiations with Clearwire. So smaller carriers could just go straight to Sprint to negotiate a LTE wholesale, roaming or MVNO solution, and skip trying to set up two separate deals with each. These are possible comprehensive solutions for wireless carriers that are in pursuit of LTE wholesale options. The biggest challenge to this really becomes devices that will run not only on several Sprint and Clearwire LTE frequencies, but their own native networks too. And for some small wireless companies, this may even be an insurmountable obstacle for them.   The best suited wholesale customers for Clearwire is the Big Dogs Clearwire is pretty well suited for additional capacity to 4G wireless carriers that already share markets with Clearwire nationwide. These are more likely to be Sprint’s direct competitors. AT&T, Verizon and T-Mobile. Although this wouldn’t make Sprint very happy, Clearwire would be just fine and dandy supplementing Sprint’s competitiors with more 4G LTE capacity…if they can make money at it. They are not in the position to be to choicey at this time. (the typo is intentional)   The engagement is back on, but a wedding date has not been scheduled The future for Clearwire is starting to look a little clearer and a little more optimistic. There are many forks in the road ahead, and there will be many dips and twists in the direction it heads toward. In the foreseeable future, Sprint and Clearwire will be well entwined. Sprint needs Clearwire’s spectrum for capacity to supplement their infant LTE network, and Clearwire needs Sprint to keep playing the sugar daddy. And probably just as Clearwire starts to get legs and starts earning enough revenue to support itself, Sprint will likely sweep in and buy out the rest of the company. To keep it from changing course and possibly damaging Sprint’s future…once again.  

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S4GRU

Clearwire releases 4th quarter 2011 results, talks about TD-LTE

by Andrew J. Shepherd
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Wednesday, February 15, 2012 - 4:45 PM MST   Clearwire released its fourth quarter and full year 2011 results in a conference call with investors, analysts, and the media this afternoon. S4GRU was on the call to bring you this report.   Clearwire highlighted its 8-K report with the following statistics: Record Fourth Quarter 2011 Revenue of $361.9 Million, Up 107% Year Over Year From $175.2 Million Full Year Revenues of $1.25 Billion, Up 134% Year Over Year From $535.1 Million Full Year Wholesale Revenues Up 876% Year Over Year to $493.7 million 2011 Total Ending Subscribers of 10.4 Million, Up 140% Year Over Year from 4.3 Million Achieves Positive Quarterly Adjusted EBITDA For the First Time of $22.5 Million Average Smartphone 4G Usage Increased 88% Year Over Year in Fourth Quarter 2011 Much of the rest of the report is focused on business metrics that may not be of particular use to anyone without an investment in Clearwire. But we did pore over the report to glean the following numbers of interest to S4GRU readers: BRS 2500-2600 MHz licensed spectrum valuation remained steady at $4.3 billion EBS 2500-2600 MHz spectrum lease costs totaled $309 million for 2011 WiMAX covered POPs increased year over year from 112 million to 132 million but plateaued at that level by the end of the second quarter Wholesale (e.g. Sprint) churn almost doubled from 1.5 percent to 2.9 percent during the fourth quarter To provide some analysis of the four points above, first and second, Clearwire holds an average of ~160 MHz of BRS/EBS spectrum bandwidth in the top 100 markets. However, as noted above, some of this spectrum (EBS) is leased from educational institutions, not licensed directly to Clearwire. Additionally, higher frequency spectrum is generally less valuable than is lower frequency spectrum. Otherwise, Clearwire's ~160 MHz of spectrum would be valued in the tens of billions of dollars. Third, as Robert has detailed in a forum post about "protection sites," Clearwire faced a May 1, 2011 FCC deadline to demonstrate at least minimum coverage in numerous Basic Trading Areas (BTA) across the country. As a result, Clearwire lit up numerous license "protection sites" around the country during the first few months of last year, leading to the 20 million POPs increase that then stalled for the remainder of the year, as Clearwire made the decision to cease WiMAX deployment and switch to LTE. Fourth, Sprint is Clearwire's largest wholesale partner. Any Sprint retail subscriber who has a WiMAX capable device is technically also counted as a Clearwire wholesale subscriber. While Clearwire churn remained relatively flat through the first three quarters, it spiked in the fourth quarter. Clearwire attributed the increase in wholesale churn in large part to Sprint offering the iPhone 4S, which is not WiMAX capable. Lastly, Clearwire addressed some of its plans for its TD-LTE 2500-2600 overlay. Clearwire reiterated its commitment to the TDD "ecosystem," alongside strategic partners China Mobile, et al., and to TDD/FDD interoperability that will allow for seamless roaming on both types of LTE networks. Clearwire expects to start build out on its LTE Advanced ready TD-LTE overlay in the second quarter, spending $400 million this year and $200 million next year, keeping costs low because much of the WiMAX infrastructure can be reused for TD-LTE. Build out goals in phase one include 8000 TD-LTE sites, at least 5000 of which are to be live by June 2013. In the WiMAX build out, Clearwire selected its own independent site locations, and this led to great inconsistencies between Clearwire and Sprint coverage. But in the TD-LTE build out, Clearwire and Sprint will work together to identify sites within the Sprint portfolio that exhibit the "highest 4G data usage potential" with fallback to the Sprint FDD LTE 800/1900 network outside of those Clearwire data "hotspots." Finally, both Clearwire and Sprint project multi-band, multi-mode TDD/FDD LTE devices that can utilize the Clearwire TD-LTE overlay to be available by June 2013, by the same time that the first 5000 sites should be online.   Source: Clearwire

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WiWavelength

Sprint 4G Partner Clearwire announces TD-LTE test trial markets

by Robert Herron
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 1:05 PM MST   Clearwire has announced that they are beginning trials of their new upcoming TD-LTE network, in conjunction with their GTI (Global TD-LTE Initiative) partner, China Mobile. Clearwire will deploy their TD-LTE in Phoenix, Arizona and Herndon, Virginia. China Mobile will deploy theirs in Beijing and other Chinese communities.  As part of the interoperability testing, devices from each others networks will be used to confirm compatibility. The goal of the GTI partnership is to create a device and network ecosystem in which TD-LTE deployed globally between 2.3GHz and 2.7GHz will be fully compatible. To allow for global LTE roaming capabilities and also create one large marketplace for manufacturers to develop chipsets and devices that will work on these frequencies. Also, a collaboration and creation of such a large LTE worldwide band will provide for the ability of these carriers to benefit from economies of scale. If all these carriers go it alone and try to get manufacturers to support just their small frequency set for their limited number of customers, the costs are much higher and also the number of devices available to them will be more limited. Creating such a large interoperable LTE band will be a significant advantage for carriers working in these frequency sets the world over. Clearwire beginning TD-LTE trials is deemed as quick progress given that Sprint just chipped in LTE funding for them in the past 30 days. Sprint will be utilizingClearwire’s TD-LTE network for additional LTE capacity. Sprint will be calling onClearwire to add additional TD-LTE carriers to its Network Vision towers as Sprint’s new LTE carriers start to reach capacity. Sprint’s LTE carriers will probably start filling up in dense markets as soon as 2013/2014. Sprint is not expected to release devices that support TD-LTE on Clearwire frequencies until 2013. Clearwire will be deploying its own TD-LTE as well, separate from additional capacity for Sprint. That deployment is expected to begin before the end of 2012. Clearwire has said in the past they will begin a TD-LTE rollout in existing WiMax cities first. However, they will not likely be rolling out TD-LTE to every WiMax market. Preferring to focus on key primary markets first. It is also anticipated that Clearwire will deploy its LTE in 20MHz TDD carriers. In early testing, this provided download speeds above 60MB, with some results over 90MB. It will be interesting if this kind of carrier deployment actually occurs, but would give Clearwire some potent bragging rights. Currently, Clearwire has WiMax on three carriers in most of the communities it serves. It’s believed that they will reduce the number of carriers to two or one in areas as they rollout TD-LTE. The remaining WiMax carriers will stay in operation through 2015. The final details regarding carrier deployment, carrier sizes, frequencies, etc. will likely not be cemented until after successful trails are completed in Phoenix, Herndon and China.   Photo courtesy of PhoneDog.com

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S4GRU

[PSA] LTE roam if you want to. Plus (+), it may count as native coverage.

by Tim Yu and Andrew J. Shepherd Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Sunday, December 6, 2015 - 2:55 AM MST   S4GRU staff is burning the well past midnight oil for our readers. Overnight, Sprint has unofficially updated its network coverage map tool to include LTE Roaming+ and LTE Roaming acquired via its participation in the Competitive Carriers Association (CCA) Roaming Hub and its own Rural Roaming Preferred Partners (RRPP) program. The coverage tool LTE roaming update clearly is a work in progress -- more on that later. But LTE roaming is finally here.   So, what is the difference between LTE Roaming+ and LTE Roaming?   LTE Roaming+   A simple explanation is that LTE Roaming+ is pseudo native coverage. Sprint users will access certain other LTE networks without roaming restrictions and can treat them as native. Usage does not count against any roaming cap, the only restrictions being the plan type ("unlimited" vs data allotment).     LTE Roaming   LTE Roaming is non native, off network coverage. Usage is counted against Sprint plan roaming caps. Older plans, such as the Everything Data, have a 300 MB limit, while newer plans, like Framily, are limited to 100 MB.   For a specific LTE roaming footprint example, see this coverage tool screenshot centered around Sprint's headquarters in the Kansas City metro. From the LTE roaming legend, the dark green LTE Roaming+ in western Kansas is Nex-Tech Wireless, and you can catch a glimpse of the same LTE Roaming+ from C Spire south of Memphis. The light green is LTE Roaming, all of which appears to be USCC at this point. Elsewhere, you will find LTE Roaming on USCC in its Pacific Northwest, Southeast, and New England regions. There is still map work to do -- note the LTE Roaming legend "@TODO will we have a description here?" More LTE Roaming+ and LTE Roaming operator coverage may be added in the coming hours or days.     Device compatibility?   Due to Sprint's unique LTE Band 25-26-41 network configuration, not all Sprint LTE capable devices will be able to roam on partner networks, which may use different bands, such as Band 2 (PCS 1900 MHz A-F blocks), Band 4 (AWS-1 1700+2100 MHz), Band 5 (Cellular 850 MHz), and Band 12 (Lower 700 MHz)   As such, a CCA/RRPP compatible Sprint triband device, of which many were released in the past year, is the best bet for full network compatibility with partner LTE networks. A CCA/RRPP device will have LTE Band 2-4-5-12-25-26-41 support, which basically covers all of the standard LTE bands in use in the US -- minus VZW Band 13 and AT&T Band 17. No matter, VZW and AT&T presently are not LTE roaming partners with Sprint.   If Multi Frequency Band Indicator (MFBI) is active at the network level, a regular Sprint triband device (Bands 25-26-41) may be able to access some partner networks -- due to Band 25 (PCS 1900 MHz A-G blocks) and Band 26 (eSMR 800 MHz + Cellular 850 MHz) being supersets of Band 2 and Band 5, respectively. However, these triband devices will not roam if the partner network uses Band 4 or Band 12.   An older single band Sprint LTE Band 25 device will be even more restricted. If it can roam at all, it will be limited to partner networks that use Band 2, again assuming MFBI.   In Summary...   A few months ago, Sprint upgraded much off network coverage for most accounts from only CDMA1X to EV-DO. Now, a lot of that same roaming footprint gets elevated a second time to LTE. Sprint LTE, eHRPD/EV-DO, and CDMA1X coverage still will hold highest priority. Whether LTE Roaming+ or LTE Roaming, it will not supersede Sprint eHRPD/EV-DO or CDMA1X signal. But outside of all Sprint native coverage, roaming gets another boost.   LTE roam, roam if you want to.     Sources: Sprint, S4GRU thread

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lilotimz

[Teaser] The 9th Galaxy Arrives Early - The Galaxy S9

Tim Yu
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
January 12, 2018 - 5:30 PM PST

"New year, new me. Am I right?"
     ~ signed Samsung Samsung has decided that the beginning of the new year is a great time to change.  Samsung has decided its newest flagship Galaxy S9 and S9 Plus devices must meet with the FCC OET for certification far earlier than usual. With ever watchful and prying eyes, S4GRU staff discovered the twin filings for two devices with FCC IDs of A3LSMG960U and A3LSMG965U which follows the   previous Samsung numeration of the Galaxy S8 / 8+ (950u/955u) and Galaxy S7 (930u/935u) respectively. In addition, previous leaks for purported international Galaxy S9 variant have captured the ID of 960F and 965F respectively.  To keep this short and simple, the Galaxy S9, to date, is the most technologically powerful device we've seen at least for Sprint and possibly other entities and the following technical specifications should demonstrate why. CDMA BC: 0 / 1 / 10
GSM: 850 / 1900
WCDMA Bands: 2, 4 , 5
LTE Band: 2, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 14, 17, 25 , 26 , 29, 30, 38, 41, 66, 71
Downlink Carrier Aggregation (DL CA)
5xB41 (up to 5 B41 carriers aggregated)
B25+41CA (up to 2 B41 carriers - 3 total carriers aggregated )
B26+41CA (up to 2 B41 carriers - 3 total carriers aggregated )
B25+26CA (up to 2 B25 carriers - 3 total carriers aggregated ) Uplink Carrier Aggregation (UL CA)
2xB41 

256 / 64 QAM Downlink/ Uplink HPUE

CAT 18 Modem
4x4 MIMO B2, 4, 25, 30 , 41, 66
12 spatial streams

Holy bonanza! This phone supports up to 100 MHz of LTE spectrum being aggregated together from 5 individual Band 41 carriers! To add to that, it also supports FDD and TDD LTE carrier aggregation by utilizing Band 25 1900 MHz or Band 26 800 MHz as the primary component carrier which would contribute to downlink and uplink while Band 41 is aggregated to it would be downlink only secondary component carriers. Remember the saying of having B25 or B26 uplink with Band 41 downlink, anybody? Plus  there is expansion of FDD carrier aggregation to that of between Band 25 and Band 26.  This will help a ton in areas where Band 41 and its oodles of capacity does not reach. As the recent CDMA refarming nationwide on PCS spectrum has allowed Sprint to fire up an additional Band 25 carrier,  this means in many Sprint markets there currently exists two Band 25 carriers in addition to a Band 26 carrier. This additional carrier is not forgotten and can now be used alongside the other Band 25 and Band 26 carrier for carrier aggregation. Last but not least, this phone is "Gigabit Class" by having up to 12 spacial streams means that 4x4 MIMO can be used for 3 separate B41 carriers when aggregated together instead of 2 in the previous generation which supports only 10 spacial streams. Though it was a moot point as the entire generation of Samsung flagships from this past year did not support 4x4 MIMO on Band 41, until now! A phone this size should not be able to pack so many technologies...but yet it does! A splendid phone and surely a must have for the S4GRU and other tech adept users! 

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lilotimz

Des Moines 4G WiMax coverage reappears on Clear's coverage maps after 6 month hiatus

by Robert Herron
Sprint 4G Rollout Updates
Thursday, December 1, 2011 - 10:01 AM MST   Hold the corn and pass the pork chops! Des Moines is back on the map!!! Clearwire rolled out several 4G Protection Sites for Sprint and Clear WiMax customers back in Spring 2011 in the Des Moines area. However, after only showing for just over a month, they disappeared off coverage maps. And haven't been seen since. The service continued to be live after it disappeared from coverage maps. And we changed the status of the towers to Phantom Protection Sites. However, today it was discovered that the coverage is back showing at clear.com/coverage. In the past few weeks it was reported to me that at least one of the towers was down in the Des Moines area. Hopefully, it's back up now. If anyone can confirm, sound off in the comments below.  

S4GRU

S4GRU

WiMax adapter for iPhone 4

Want your new iPhone 4S to run on WiMax? It's not too far of a stretch. It's already been done in Korea. Maybe Sprint will churn out something like this (and hopefully a lot smaller).         Source: http://www.thegadgetguycolumn.com/review-the-egg-wimax-adaptor-for-iphone-4/   Originally posted on S4GRU Facebook page on October 4, 2011

S4GRU

S4GRU

Conspiracy Theorists hold on to Sprint iPhone announcement on Friday

There are conspiracy theorists who still are holding on to hope that Sprint is going to announce on Friday an iPhone 5. I'm just flabbergasted trying to argue reason into these folks. Am I crazy for thinking that's so fantastical that it can't possibly happen? Maybe I'm just too jaded? I want to hear thoughts from our 500+ fans. Is this crazy? Or do you think this is plausible? Weigh in, now...   Link to S4GRU Facebook comments (28)

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S4GRU

Sprint 4G Strategy Update Conference - Our Facebook Wall Comments (Part 2)

Here is Part Two of the Chat Transcripts from today's 4G Strategy Update Conference. Click here for Part One. Thanks for those of you who joined in the chat. It's been removed from the wall to remove the "pollution." LOL   It works in chat format, so it's backwards in time...       Sprint 4G Rollout Updates FARED ADIB: Most 2011 and all 2012 devices will support 800MHz CDMA voice Daves Williams No nexus s.... 😢 Jason Reuschlein Most except.. Nexus, Photon.. oh and that iPhone thing Daves Williams Then that only leaves the EVO 3D Joshua McDaniel Does that include the Evo Shift 4G? It is a 2011 device. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Photon uses 800...http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/ci.MOTOROLA-PHOTON-4G-US-EN.alt Sprint 4G Rollout Updates So does Samsung Epic Touch... http://www.samsung.c...710ZKASPR-specs Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Supposedly, Evo Shift has 800: http://www.phonearen...Shift-4G_id4979 Jason Reuschlein That isn't the ESMR band though. Compare the FCC docs (you can look them up on phonescoop.com) on the Photon vs. the EVO 3D for example. There are 2 800MHz bands on the 3D, 1 on the Photon Jason Reuschlein In fact, the 3D and other ESMR devices have a different PRL due to that fact   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates FARED ADIB: Sprint has received approval from 3GPPP to use and run LTE on 1900. First network to do it. Johnny Berti Is 1900 good? Danny Cooper Somebody needs to explain the difference between these frequencies... Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I will at the end, if no one else does   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates FARED ADIB: I will not be talking specifically about devices. So this is going to be disappointing... Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Generic speak about devices only. Snoozeville! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates FARED ADIB: We are very happy about getting the iPhone Danny Cooper About to bring out the iPhone 5! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates FARED ADIB: (Paraphrased) Our customers don't know jack about 4G Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Tell me about it Fared. We'd have to experience it to know it!!!! Jason Reuschlein ‎1X Advanced! Greg Rowland Yup, saw that too. Wonder if they'll announce when it'll actually be out in the wild? Sam DiPiazza Iphone.... Snoozeville is right Jeff Keyseear Wow, i guess that is how they will justify selling 4g devices that will never use 4g... "just tell the customer they need a better device to use it... they wont know any better!" Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Jeff - Expect WiMax device sales to instantly stagnate. Jason Reuschlein I thought even the original EVO supported 1X advanced? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates All 1xRTT are at least backwards compatible with 1xA. But that was surprising to me too.   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ATTENTION NEW FANS! Wondering why there are so many posts popping up on your wall? We are live blogging the Sprint 4G Strategy Update Conference in New York, New York. This doesn't happen all the time. MORE LIVE BLOGGING AFTER THE BREAK! Eric Puddy So are they going to have a market lists that will be covered like other carriers? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I hope so. Verizon posted a list of markets for the year, without dates. And then when a city gets within 30 days or so, they announced the specific cities dates. I want Sprint to do the same! Harold Achong Yea Eric, Tulsa Oklahoma was going to be the 1st market city. lol wishful thinking. Harold Achong Not yet, but hopeful. Joshua McDaniel Wow, Clearwire has taken a brutal beating today. Eric Puddy why didn't we just appoint more of the board and be done with it?   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ‎20 Minute Break...wasn't that talk from the Network Vision partners a break??? LOL Rodney Greene What is this music? Jeeez! Greg Rowland ‎...lol, listen Rodney, hey can't be spending all sorts of cash after the massive cash dump to Apple, and their new, more aggressive rollout plan. Robert Kent Are they talking about phones yet? Greg Rowland ‎*all sorts of cash on music that is. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Robert...I think Devices are at the end of the agenda. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Rodney...sounds like a cheap casino cabaret fill in artist, eh? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Greg...very true!!! Kendrick Allen was the cash dump to apple true? Barry Zeringue No mention of Rev. B yet, and I am very confident there won't be any at all. I love my Android phone I don't see the Iphone doing as well as they predict. Jason Robinson So not much gonna. Happen in till mid 2012 but what then we has to upgrade new device when LTE is active Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Kendrick...I think so. But still unconfirmed beyond the WSJ. Jason Robinson EVO 4g is or is gonna be waste now for me Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ILMAP...I don't know. Part of me wants it to for Sprints sake. Part of me is doubtful that it will the panacea everyone thinks. Jason Robinson Since Wimax is out for Rhodes that have evo 4g in no area of 4g is pretty much screwed over Daves Williams If there's a Rev b it wont be till IDEN is completely dead Daves Williams EVO4g was EOL not to long ago. Jason Robinson Sad day for me then Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I don't think we're going to hear Revision B uttered today, unless someone asks about it on Q&A. They are banking on LTE. And they will refarm EVDO spectrum for LTE over time. That's where they are going. Jason Robinson What about evdo a Sprint 4G Rollout Updates EVDO-A is getting better coverage and faster speeds. It will be on every Sprint tower with Network Vision. No more 1x data only towers...eventually. Jason Robinson So will EVO 4g see 4g LTE Jeff Keyseear Its weird that theyre going to be eol wimax devices currently being released (like the g2) less than a year after their release. Unless of course they will work on lte, which the device teardown should have revealed and did not (sigh) Chris Lenton people getting screwed out of their upgrades and having it pushed back to April 1, 2012 makes a bit more sense now. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Network Vision Corporate Partners: Alcatel/Lucent, Samsung and Ericsson on stage. Not much meat being discussed. Stay tuned... Brad Moses looks like samsung is doing iowa, hopefully they don't create networks like they do phones.... *shakes fist at my old transform* Sprint 4G Rollout Updates New Mexico is Ericsson. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I hope they don't say anything important here. I'm having a hard tiem paying attention. Need to run to my Keurig for more caffeine! Brad Moses and 20 minute break, go get that caffeine!!!!!!!!! Danny Cooper ‎20 minute break now... Jerald Whitaker ‎20 min break Richard Reyna San Diego is alcatel-lucent! I got to love it because they were the ones that set up Cox's "test" LTE network in San Diego. I hope they learned a thing or two so that deployment will be smooth. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates What did I ever do before I bought a Keurig? I love instanta coffee. Ahhh...now I'm better.   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I will try to make Summary Narrative at the end. I will also be doing Q&A and responses to Users. Stay tuned. Michael Yim Did you capture the coverage map from earlier in the presentation?   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates BOB AZZI: There will be LTE markets in 2012 that currently do not have WiMax. ME: Phoenix, Detroit, Milwaukee, Oklahoma City San Diego, maybe? Richard McGee Hope so. Daves Williams New orleans I know...CITA 2012 is in new orleans in may Barry Zeringue New Orleans? Jason Russ Holy s**t!! Jason Robinson What about us herkimer ny Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Sorry I missed New Orleans in my hypothesis. Trying to think and type fast. Brian Jones still have to wait for Bakersfield Ca how SAD Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Nothing specific yet to markets, Brian. Stay tuned. Brian Jones ya im listening to it now still nothing Kendrick Allen ‎3G speeds are horrible in New Orleans right now! Kendrick Allen Oh, coupled with a very small 4G foot print! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Kendrick...true, true. Justin Cate Oh, the mention of Detroit was just a postulation? =( Brad Trimmer Hopefully Dayton/Springfield Ohio! Brad Moses cough*des moines*cough Ryan P. Burkhead Louisville! Brad Trimmer If the Lions win the Super Bowl and the Tigers win the world series. then they should be first. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Brad...I can support that thinking! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Justin...the second sentence was mine. Drawing conclusions. Daves Williams Lions wont win the Super Bowl.....Detroit can't have 2 champs in one year. Sports gods wont allow it. Brad Trimmer I'm a Bengals fan, I'm a dreamer...lol Steven Fernández Puerto Rico? Sam DiPiazza Huntsville, AL?!? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I think San Juan will likely be in the first 120 markets. Sprint loves Puerto Rico...as do I! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates If they go in size order (which I am guessing they are), Huntsville would likely be beginning 2013 for LTE. I want more details, though! Jeff Wolfe We will see if it comes to Milwaukee in 2012. I won't hold my breath because they said wimax would be here Feb. 2011 & it's not. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates BOB AZZI: We used WiMax to get out to market early. But now don't worry, LTE is better. It's the next step. LTE is faster. Can get broader coverage in NV. Seamless 3G/4G handoff. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates LTE is not faster, Bob. I'm sick of this tag line. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates The Network Vision 4G slide of New York is impressive. Jason Russ WOW!!! Jason Russ Bring on some more!!! Brad Moses he said "most advanced latest LTE" but he didn't say "LTE Advanced".... wonder which one it is Brad Moses also looks like they will be going to more new markets with LTE before going back to current wimax markets Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Yeah, the overlapping slide, says it all, huh? Eric Chan ‎@Brad Most likely Release 8 since that is what is currently deployed right now on verizon and att Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Eric - I'm with you. That's my guess. John Sorrenti I'm going shopping at the Verizon store I'm sick of sprints crap maybe even get a bionic   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates BOB AZZI: I'm going to get deep in your basement! (with deep penetrating 800MHz action) LOL Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Kind of creepy, Bob! Jason Russ Ya buddy!!!! Rai Diaz No comment..... Jason Robinson Wow what this mean Ryan Baughn Yikes.some of ua might like that...so keep it clean lmao Jason Russ Lower spectrum better penetration in buildings Sprint 4G Rollout Updates He said it, not me. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Maybe I paraphrased a tad little bit. >   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ‎3G IMPROVEMENTS: Better signal coverage, faster data speeds, better in building penetrations, better coverage. 800 MHZ CDMA expansion Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Important to iPhone users...LOL Rob Hilton I'll believe it when it happens.. Danny Cooper Wow, that map is amazing. Merl Bonham When? Jason Russ Love it man love it!!! Carlten Green Columbia, South Carolina here....any chances its coming here soon? Jason Reuschlein FYI: the iPhone 4S does NOT support the 800MHz ESMR band! Jeremiah Wenzel Hope this effects my area as the 3g connections have been really crappy in many parts of my home town Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Jason Reuschlein...that is what is appears at the moment. The specs are very vague and say 800 CDMA, which is believed to be 850 Cellular for Verizon. If true, the deep basment penetration won't be happening for iPhone customers. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Carlten...Columbia's position in all this is still unknown. Stay tuned. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Merl...some things (like backhaul improvements) are starting to happen now. Other points will happen as Network Vision gets to your market in 2012 or 2013. Richard Owens ‎3G speds have definitely increased across GA. Albany, GA's 3G was down for the past 6 months. Tried it the other day and got 1.5 MBPS! You couldn't even use Sprint for data. It would always time out. I mainly forced roam all the time I was working down there so I could use Alltel or Verizon's 3G. John Sorrenti Yeah my 3g has been sucking too in Columbia SC.....after all I've heard today the big V looking good   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates REMINDER: During Live Blog of conference, wall posts by users are being blocked and removed. No comments.   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Sprint Direct Connect has virtually same performance for PTT that iDEN has. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Getting really good feedback from beta customers. 4 hours ago · Sprint 4G Rollout Updates PTT on CDMA will go to 2.7M miles from 900k miles 4 hours ago · Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Square miles, that is 4 hours ago ·   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates BOB AZZI: Work on 22,000 towers already under way. Steven Fernández My bet is we don't see anything real till end of 2012. Danny Cooper Side note: Sprint stock is up almost 8.5% already this morning. Andy Robinson which ones?!? Abram Wenevermet Dennis ‎2015 Brad Moses and clearwires stock is dropping Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I bet it is. Sprint has written them off as a loss. Jason Russ Yes man!!! Danny Cooper Up almost 11% now... damn, should have bought some Monday Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Danny Day Trader?   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates BOB AZZI: 4G LTE will be on our own spectrum. Johnny Berti and 2 others like this. Daves Williams ‎4g LTE test calls? Daves Williams VoLTE? Enrique Evangelista V huuumm.....they field tested equipment, prototype sprint lte phone Cameron Spraguey locations for lte? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates No specific locations mentioned. However, it;s going with Network Vision deployment. Which we know starts with the 8 Largest Metros. But Sprint says it's going to 120 markets next year. That's darn fast for Sprint. Finally, something to measure by!   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Sprint trying to secure more spectrum for long term. ME: Maybe some 700-D block action? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Sounds like a big middle finger for Clearwire!!! Jason Robinson Wow no Wimax then Rai Diaz More like 2 - One from Sprint and one from Lightsquared Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Rai...Clearwire's stock is taking a pummeling. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Sprint tried negotiating with them, but their terms were unreasonable having Sprint front everything for them. Looks like Sprint told them to pound sand.   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates STEVE ELFMAN: We are leaving T1 backhaul and going to fiber and microwave. Chosen site by site, depending on conditions. No Comments     Sprint 4G Rollout Updates STEVE ELFMAN: We believe we can handle iPhone on our network. Offloading, more efficient devices. The iPhone is more efficient on the network. Continue our network investment and capacity. Especially through Network Vision. Steven Fernández I wonder that being more efficient means? Sounds like marketing speak. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates A little, probably. Some details of how wold be nice. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates WIMAX: You're out. Just got the boot! Will be supported. WiMax devices through June 2012. Then no more. Merl Bonham WOW!!!! Only until June? That's aggressive. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Will be supported for years. But don't expect anything meaningful new. Jason Malone So no more rollout of 4g or what? I mean wtf? Investors will be pissed. Brad Moses not looking good for REV B either Jason Malone I am pissed Richard Owens Works for me, lol. My contract with my Epic is up in June, just in time to get a LTE device! Danny Cooper I wonder what the Wifi offload technology will be? Jason Malone Well when I say 4g, I am referring to my 4G, WiMax... Steven Fernández No need to switch to sprint at this point. Jason Malone ‎@Richard Owens... Not good for me I just bought a new 4G Device... WoW!!!!!! Sam DiPiazza So, me and my evo are up the creek here in Huntsville? Nate Burger I guess so, like me and my Evo in Dayton, OH. I should have known I was being bullpooted when I signed up and they said 4G was coming to my area "really soon". Sigh. Richard Ruffner ‎@Nate I was surprised that Dayton never got 4g, since we got EVO rev b pretty quickly Joe Lienau Has there actually been a rollout of Wimax in any meaningful markets this year? I live in one of the most populated suburban areas in the country outside of NYC, and have nothing. Jason Malone RIDICULOUS! Justin Cate That is ridiculous... Having just bought an Evo 3D and finding out Detroit is up the creek without a paddle... Daves Williams THe thing is clear can is still roll out wimax if it wants, its just sprint doesn't care how they do it. They've moved on. John Sorrenti Hmmmmm evo3d thought it would continue on as a flagship......looks like it just sunk in places like Columbia SC   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates NETWORK VISION: Moved up to 24 months, from the previous discussed 3 to 5 years. No comments.   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates LTE DEPLOYMNET: It is going to be rapid. First markets Mid-2012. Largely complete by end of 2013. Enrique Evangelista V w00t! Andy Robinson By the time i am up for handset upgrade, LTE - MIGHT- be here!yea! Rai Diaz Sprint:120 markets in 6 months? Challenge accepted! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Lots for us to cover here, Rai! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates The Sprint 4G Rllout Updates page will be hopping with updates for the next 24 months...hopefully.   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates STEVE ELFMAN: 800 LTE, hopefully in the future!!! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I guess they are waiting for the complete decommissioning of iDEN. Brad Moses looks like wimax and clearwire getting the boot, mentioned lightsquared and the 1600 spectrum they have Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Yes Yoda, I think you're right. Jason Robinson Yayy   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates STEVE ELFMAN: Network Vision breaks into 2 categories. Multi-mode towers, and multi-technology chipsets for devices Sprint 4G Rollout Updates INtegrated chipsets! Brign 'em on!!! Barry Zeringue He mentioned LTE at 1.6 Lightsquared???     Sprint 4G Rollout Updates STEVE ELFMAN: LTE is certianly what we're announcing here today...on our 1900 spectrum! No mention of 800! Rai Diaz LTE on 800 will be available in the future   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates DAN HESSE: We will be utilizing 800/1900 networks to the maximum of their ability. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Details! I want details about 800 ESMR!!! Rai Diaz I would like to know as well Brad Moses LTE on 1900 spectrum Jason Reuschlein LTE on 1900!? Enrique Evangelista V ‎1900 LTE Daves Williams integrated device chipset   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates DAN HESSE: iDEN Network going away. But PTT is going to be a part of the new single network. Button pushers are going to be moved to a world class PTT network. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates No new news here. Danny Cooper Did audio just go dead for anyone else? Mark H. Tyler For us HomeGamer's, what is iDEN and PTT, because I'm on 3g right now and it isn't clear to me what a world class PTT does. Mark H. Tyler ‎...although I am glad it is a world class PTT of course. Rai Diaz PTT is Push to Talk Mark H. Tyler thx for that! Merl Bonham PTT= Push To Talk Daves Williams sprint direct connect was launched sunday   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates DAN HESSE: Taking Sprint to the next level...the iPhone Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Yes, subsidies are higher on the iPhone. Rai Diaz I knew he was going to mention the iPhone in some way. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates The iPhone "will be the most profitable device" for Sprint. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates iPhone will contribute to our cash flow Danny Cooper iPhone = high profit. Means that Android phones do use more network capacity Brad Moses didn't know boost ran on iden O_O Brad Moses lol, utilize existing assets before going after others Sprint 4G Rollout Updates You mean they haven't been maximizing their existing network? LOL Donna Guffee Appleget Is there a recording of this somewhere?     Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Sorry folks...we are covering this. But Dan Hesse is rambling about brand. Stay tuned. I'm posting meaningful threads. I'm waiting for some meat! Danny Cooper Dan needs to watch some old Steve Jobs keynotes... this babbling is awful. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Exactly! Steve was convincing because he lived it. He knew every decision. He was directly apart of it. He loved it. It was his life. This is something else... Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I guess we have to remember he's talking to investors. Brad Moses well at least it shows they are improving with adding customers.... Devin Wilson Also remember this is an investor call. That said, i agree with you guys. Brian Jones where is the live feed that you are watching Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Listening...http://investors.sprint.com/GenPage.aspx?IID=4057219&GKP=1073745942 Brad Moses and here comes the iphone 😕 Jason Reuschlein Hesse admitted the iPhone is higher in initial cost   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates DAN HESSE: Sprint brand stands for simplicity and value! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Simplicity costs less. Thus Network Vision. Enrique Evangelista V ‎*agree Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I'm here for the value. OTW, I'd go to Verizon. Steven Fernández I'm here for fast 4g. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Brand, brand, blah, blah. Let's talk about Network!!! Jason Reuschlein Gary Kelly smiles Sprint 4G Rollout Updates DAN HESSE: I like to over simplify. Well that sure explains a lot about Sprint's missteps! Eric Puddy sorry to bother, should there be video instead of just sound? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Nope. Sprint isn't offering video, just audio. Their network can't handle it...yet. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates LOL Rai Diaz I see what you did there.   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Here we go!!! Danny Cooper No video? Boo! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates SEC disclaimer live! Too funny Jason Reuschlein Remember.. Actual results may vary. lol Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Dan Hesse coming on stage now... Rai Diaz No video? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Detroit Tigers joke... Jason Reuschlein Go Brewers! btw   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ‎2 Minute Warning...Get to your seats!!! Rai Diaz Got mine! Steven Fernández I can only find room in the back. Anthony Evans Jr Dan hesse has horrid jokes   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK...I will post highlights as new threads so people following along at work and on mobile devices do not have to keep scrolling through threads to find out what's going on. They can just hit refresh on the Main Page and get a list of what's going on.   During the conference, user posts will be blocked/removed from the Wall. However, feel free to comment in the threads below the posts. 7 Minutes before the fun begins!!! Eric Puddy what site is the release on Ryan Baughn cant wait!!! just wanna know more about wimax!!! Brandon Gleaton Please keep us posted on ur page. I can't watch it live. I'm in class. Pleaseeeeeeee lol. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates We are. Stay tuned. Just 20 more minutes!

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Sprint 4G Strategy Update Conference - Our Facebook Wall Comments (Part 1)

Here is Part One of the Chat Transcripts from today's 4G Strategy Update Conference. Click here for Part Two. Thanks for those of you who joined in the chat. It's been removed from the wall to remove the "pollution." LOL   It works in chat format, so it's backwards in time...         Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I guess that questions threw them off! They ended rather abruptly!!! Michael Yim Yeah they did... Justin Cate So no discussion about Rev. B I take it? Garrett Furr That question from that woman just made their stock go down 26 cents! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I'm trying to get the slideshow to download so I can see the Revision B reference on it. I didn't hear anyone mention it verbally! Brad Moses nothing beyond "improvements to the 3G network" which could just be the backhaul upgrades and coverage expansion from network vision Jerald Whitaker Not today but more and more details will come out as the rollout starts Sprint 4G Rollout Updates All very vague. I wanted more questions!!! Brandon Gleaton So it looks like I'm stuck on slow 3g till the end of my contract. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ‎3G is getting faster. EVDO-A speeds are all getting upgraded right now. Some people are already seeing improvements. Jason Robinson Wonder if my 3g got faster how would I know the differents Michael Yim Once we have the link to download the slide deck, can you please post it for us I'm having a heck of a time navigating the investor page on Sprints site. Jason Robinson Is it over with? Garrett Furr The Speedtest.net app hasnt worked on my EVO 3D in about 2 weeks. Anyone else having this problem? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Jason - Download Speedtest.net app and check it out. It'll be one tower at a time upgrade though. May take awhile to get to Herkimer. But it may be soon. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Michael - will do! Jeff Keyseear Id say sprint has decided to let clearwire sink or swim without them. The absence of wimax interoperability on devices, however, tells us sprint doesnt forsee even utilizing its usage agreement... so theyre banking on failure. The lack of faith by its majority shareholder may in fact start a windstorm on wall street that brings clear to its knees very, very soon. Is that what sprint was after today? Maybe Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ‎"Presentation slides can be viewed with the Webcast and will be available for download from this site shortly after the conclusion of the event." I guess it's not shortly enough yet. Jerald Whitaker I'm sure there are not only asset benefits (spectrum) but tax benefits too if they let Clear die. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Jeff - that's the big surprise of the day, if anything. It's amlost the theme...Theme: WiMax out. We're hoeing our own row. Clearwire doomed. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Jerald...probably. They can write off the whole investment as a loss. They can spread that loss over several years on the books to take advantage of taxes. Jason Robinson We should had not want a deal with clear to start with Jason Robinson We just had not went or got involved with them Eric Puddy If Cear goes under they have to disperse the assets. If Sprint was smart I'm sure they arranged it in their favor? Or they coulc be bargaining for a better deal? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Jason - it definitely seemed like the right move at the moment. In hind sight, you're right. Sprint should have kept their own 2500 spectrum, kept Xohm going. Now they could be deploying LTE on their spectrum and Clearwire would already be bankrupt without Sprint. They could gobble up their spectrum for dirt cheap. Hind sight is always 20/20 though, eh? Jason Robinson That time we could of saved our selfsame frustration Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Eric - Assuming Sprint is smart is never a good bet. But I hope they'll play out in this well. Eric Puddy True, not smart at all. They got a great IPhone 5 though. LOL Jason Robinson So I knew we jump right into our own spectum whitch we should of done the Frist place Jason Robinson So we contract with them what we gonna need them for now there failure to bankruptcy and blame that in sprint we should fall out of clear them to shove it Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Hmmm...I'm not sure I follow. Jason Robinson Yup save the 2500 is would of save sprint money Jason Robinson Never should got involved Jason Robinson That 2500 could of got iPhone 5 on this year Garrett Furr If you want to use Speedtest.net download an older version off of 4shared for now and sideload it. The newest version on the Market has issues.   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I missed the protection site discussion. DOH!!! Dang phone call! Brad Moses i didn't hear anything about protection sites Sprint 4G Rollout Updates There was a question at the end that I came late into about spectrum protection, FCC requirements, etc. But I didn't catch the question. I should have ignored my phone! What was I thinking? I guess I'll have to wait for transcripts. Jerald Whitaker You can replay the stream i think Sprint 4G Rollout Updates It will get reposted later today for listening. ·     Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Q: You talk about Clearwire like their a partner instead of the fact you own them. You sound ridiculous!! Why would you let your company go bankrupt??? Answer to follow...   Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Bad Verizon joke...Can you hear me now??? Barry Zeringue wow, that lady was passionate Brad Moses wow, that lady had some balls! Greg Rowland WOW That Lady is brutal. They made the Verizon joke, and she yelled "Not on your network." Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ANSWER: We care most about our shareholders! Clearwire stinks and has made us suffer. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ‎"I don't think you know your facts!" ROFLMAO!!! Greg Rowland And now they're getting snippy, telling her she doesn't know her facts and that she's incorrect. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Now this is exciting!!! Michael Yim Undercover Clearwire Rep.... Greg Rowland ‎"I think we're finished." Ha Sprint 4G Rollout Updates DAN HESSE...always the calm head. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates DAN HESSE: We think their bankrputcy, if it occurred would be orderly and the FCC would be involved with transferring licenses, etc. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Michael - ROFL!!! Kendrick Allen transferring licenses, would that be to sprint? Jason Reuschlein Maybe they want them bust Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Kendrick - yes. That's what he's inferring. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Jason...the discussion with them have been so sour. I think Sprint has just completely given up on them. Clearwire wants Sprint to pay all their Network Vision costs if they join NV and they want Sprint to lend them the $900M they want to convert their network to LTE. They won't budge. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Q: Hey! I wanna get a better answer on Clearwire! A: Ask Clearwire. However, if CW goes bankrupt, we wanna be a part of the discussion. There has never been a wireless BK that involved subscribers being turned off. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Dan basically said, hell no we are not bailing out Clearwire. They pissed me off. Sink or swim buddy!!! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates They need to come to our terms, and maybe we'll help them. Kendrick Allen clearwire stocks taking a major hit right now! Kendrick Allen could it be lower the price to buy them off! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Maybe Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Q: Lots of WiMax customers are going to be on your network. What are you going to do with them if Clearwire goes bankrupt. A: We don't know what's going to happen to Clearwire. But we have a contract. And we will continue to talk with them about a long term solution. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates The rumors of the bad blood with Clearwire during spectrum negotiations must be as bad as purported. Jerald Whitaker Ya Dan was pissy in his response to that one. Can't blame him though really Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I was shocked about the tone of the response. They were mad. Greg Rowland Yeah...and the next guy just asked if they'd fund Clear...lol Brad Moses seriously, i think the people in the audience need to learn to listen, it doesn't matter how many different ways you ask it, the answer will be the same, so stop asking about clearwire and the iphone! >( Jerald Whitaker http://i485.photobuc...31375431474.jpg Harold Achong Cant wait for a response on this lady's question. Jason Reuschlein Clearwire down 27% trading Jon Gebarowski If you aren't in a clearwire serviced area with a Wimax device today... sucks to be you. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Jon...true. But Sprint will LTE to most folks faster than Clearwire ever would get WiMax to them. Even if someone gave CW money. CW once had $6B, and couldn't pull it off. Sprint only needs $10B to do Network Vision and LTE over the entire country in 24 months. CW is obviously very mismanaged. Chris Jones Whoa whoa whoa...They *claim* they will be able to carry out this conversion over the entire country in 24 months. Let's not count our eggs before they are hatched here. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates The conversion is happening with Network Vision. They have already contracted with three separate companies to deploy it. Although, past results creep into my mind, I am cautiously optimistic. Since the work is already contracted out, the only thing could stop it is if Sprint didn't pay their monthly invoices to Alcatel/Lucent, Ericsson and Samsung. Chris Jones I get that Sprint is kind of between a rock and a hard place here - either stick with a company that has proven it isn't efficient at deployment or switch to a new standard that won't really be in place for another year or two. It still feels kind of weird for Sprint to be pushing 4g devices based on wimax that don't really seem to have much of a future at the moment. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Agreed on that point. We can just sit back and watch WiMax device sales plummet. I think it will make the iPhone look more attractive too. Why invest in dying WiMax for a device. You might as well buy a 3G device if you need something now and ride it out to LTE. Or just wait for LTE all together. Or some folks will just leave Sprint. The more I digest today, this really isn't a good news conference all things considered. Brian Heiss The huge unanswered question is: How long will Sprint support WiMax devices like the Nexus S? Agreement with Clearwire ends 12/31/12; will the end of it mean that devices w/ get 4G via WiMax will essentially become 3G devices? Personally this announcement, while great in the long-term, is frustrating due to the termination of Sprint Premiere; as a 10+ year Sprint user the yearly upgrade was a great benefit given because of my loyalty to Sprint and, if Premiere Gold was not terminated this announcement wouldn't impact my (and thousands of other folks) decision because another yearly upgrade would occur prior to then end of the Clearwire/WiMax agreement. Chris Jones Yeah... I have been getting decreased 3g speeds lately on my ego shift and was kinda hoping for 4g to make it here. Now it looks like I will have to hope that sprint carries through on the 3g improvements. I do not consider the current speeds of 50-100 kbps that I'm getting to be acceptable. Chris Jones As I understand it, if you are in a 4g area right now and have a wimax device, great. If not, then you're very ly to ever see 4g on your device Doug Henning I didn't hear that they would drop WIMAX after 12/12... what I heard is they would no longer sell WIMAX phones... they would be selling LTE phones and TRI-MODE data devices.... they've come to the correct decision that WIMAX is not a good mobile 4G.... I live in WIMAX areas and get WIMAX connections that work for a while than drop out as I drive.. any connection is lost and then goes to 3G... I would hope the LTE-3G handoffs would be better... WIMAX is fine stationary... Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I think the big question on WiMax is how long Clearwire will be around to sustain it. If they around in 2013, I'm sure you'll still be able to use it. However, I know by 2013, I won't be rockin' a WiMax device anymore. By then, my Evo would be 2-1/2 years old. LOL Chris Jones I am glad that sprint seems to be moving towards the better standard but it still feels kind of frustrating that it took this long to find out that they needed to essentially hit the restart button. Brian Heiss I hope Sprint has a contingency plan if Clearwire goes under and a plethora of 4G WiMax customers are left 4G-less. I am eligible for my last Premiere Gold upgrade in a few weeks, would you guys suggest waiting for LTE or using it? (I was excited to use it before today's news...) Today's announcement helps me understand that LTE maybe more so than the iPhone was the reason for the termination of the Premiere program. The "New for You" program (horrible brand name by the way: screams used-car dealership or refurbished device) means everyone upgrades every 22 months: While this potentially will provide Sprint with an increased revenue stream in device sales by current customers who want the latest "must-have" device and pay full price rather than wait circa 2 yrs for upgrade. In the end Sprint is sending a clear message about how they value long-term Sprint customers. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I still think Sprint is just firing across Clearwire's bow. They want to send a message to Clearwire...agree to out terms. We are prepared to let you go bankrupt. See, we even took the heat by saying so publicly. Now get back to the negotiating table with reasonable terms!!! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates our terms...not out terms. Brian Heiss It is mind-boggling that such a large corporation wouldn't have a FAQ backgrounder to distribute at the event which would address the question of WiMax 4G support come 1/1/13 considering almost all of their current/upcoming 4G devices use WiMax and a ton customers who have gotten a Sprint 4G recently won't be eligible to upgrade prior to 1/1/13. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I know what you're saying. Sprint has gotten itself in a bad position, and they are taking what they think is the best approach to get them out in the long term. I can't defend it, though. Brian Heiss From a Public Relations standpoint these are the questions that are answered in a media kit distributed at the event and executives presenting are prepped to answer; especially because it impacts a ton of current customers and anyone that buys a 4G device before LTE devices are available on Sprint. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates All things considered, I thoguht the were more candid than normal. Especially about WiMax. Brian Heiss That is an insightful point regarding their candor; but failing to address and assure current and potential customers that their WiMax devices will provide them with 4G coverage for the duration of the customer's 2 year contact is a major issue and, if reported mainstream, would cause Sprint Android sales to dramatically drop and effectively push customers to the iPhone. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Brian - Agreed. They better hope it drives people to the iPhone, and not another carrier! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Q: If LS2 falls apart, how are you going to get the cash for more spectrum? A: Multi-modal capabilities. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates So they think they have more partner opportunities beyond LightSquared. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Q: Are you dissing Android now that you are in bed with Apple? What gives? A: We love Apple. But, just because I have a new mistress doesn't mean I'm leaving my wife. She comes from a rich family! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates OK...I took A LOT of ARTISTIC LICENSE with that one! Jason Reuschlein That was a really really dumb question Jerald Whitaker lol Jason Reuschlein Just like um AT&T dumped everything else after the iPhone, right? Abram Wenevermet Dennis A buggy family Sprint 4G Rollout Updates It was dumb! Basically, Sprint will carry everything it thinks it can sell. DUH! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates DAN HESSE: We are doing all of our long term planning without LightSquared. If LS2 comes on board, it's just even better! Joshua McDaniel likes this. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I'm glad to hear that. If they were counting on LS2, it could be disastrous. I think Sprint has learned their lesson with counting on partnerships after Clearwire. Jason Robinson Agree Brad Moses OMG someone ask about rev b already!!!!!! Joshua McDaniel I'm glad to hear this too. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Brad...that is the big question remaining at this point, huh? Jerald Whitaker These things are always about money and shareholder value more so than satisfying us dorks that fidget over technology acronyms. I'll say though this one has been more tech oriented than most I've sat through. Michael Yim I don't suppose we have anyone who can ask the questions on the inside at all... Didn't they have any way to have remote feedback incorporated? Brandon Gleaton So. If rev b comes will that improve current 3g speeds? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Sprint investors tend to be a little more geeky than your average investor. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ‎Michael Yim - not a s far as I know. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Q: LightSquared. Why don't you think you need them? Why don't you think you need Clearwire. A: We can go through 2014 on our own spectrum. Hopefully by 2015 we can join with LS2. However, because of Network Vision, we may have other opportunities to increase our spectrum. (Think DISH Network) Jerald Whitaker Or the upcoming TV freespace auction that the FCC is putting together Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Yup! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Q: Can Clearwire continue as a growing concern? What about the Evo customers? A: We will continue selling WiMax devices until June 2012. Clearwire is going to LTE too. You will have to ask Clearwire specifically about THEIR WiMax network. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates We have nothing to announce with Clearwire through 2012. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates And watch their stock sink even lower!!! Jerald Whitaker Dan Hesse just took a dump on Clearwire Richard Reyna The agreement for Sprint to use Clearwire's wimax lasts through 2012 also. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I can see Clearwire still coming on board. But it will be on Sprint's terms. They just told Clearwire, WE DONT NEED YOU!!! Richard Reyna Well in all fairness. Clearwire kind of said that to Sprint when they decided not to continue expanding wimax. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Very true, Richard! Brent David Clearwire's Stock just took a dive Sprint 4G Rollout Updates It's going to be a lot harder to raise money after Sprint's announcement, unless it was a sugar daddy like Dish Network saving them. But I don't think Dish wants 2500 spectrum. Eric Palmer As an EVO user who has yet to see 4G where I live, I feel screwed. Joshua McDaniel I feel screwed too, and now it'll cost a huge fortune to change to an iPhone. Shane Coulter This is bad news....... Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Shane...It's different news to every person depending on where they live, what their devices are, when are they upgrading and what their needs are. For some people, it's bad news. I'm still trying to digest it all. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates LTE is starting on the G Block of 1900. Will add more in 1900 later in other blocks as needed. Joshua McDaniel So much for decent LTE at first. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates It'll be much better performaing than WiMax. The speed will be equal or slightly better. But 1900 coverage and penetration is much better than 2500. Joshua McDaniel Not in my area it isn't. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates It takes a lot less towers at 1900. Makes deployment much faster. Eric Puddy I thought the ideal was in the 700 and 800 and 1200 penetration stunk? Joshua McDaniel I sure hope it will work better. The best signal I get in my house is 3 bars, but most of the time only 2 or 1. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ‎1900 pentration is not as good as 700 or 800, definitely. But it's tremendously better than 2500. I go to a Sams Club in Santa Fe, NM right next to a WiMax tower. Full WiMax bars at the front door. 10 feet inside...nothing. That's 2500 for you. On 1900, full bars at the front door, walk inside, half bars. And it's totally usable. 90% of full speed. I'll take 1900 LTE over 2500 WiMax, if those are my only two choices. Joshua McDaniel If I could go back to at&t after this whole joke today, I would. But I'm stuck for the long haul I guess. And I like my free premium data thanks to my 25% service discount. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates In the long term, it's going to be fine. 18 to 24 months out, everyone will be happy, except Clearwire stockholders. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates INVESTOR QUESTIONS: Is the iPhone going to make us lots of money? Is it going to save Sprint??? Jenna Frickin' Holmberg Ugh. I hate the iphone and am sick of hearing about it! -Jason Reuschlein And they basically didn't really answer Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Not even close to answering it, Jason. Jason Reuschlein So I wonder if they really did put a lot of $$ investment into the iPhone. I hope not as much as rumored Richard Reyna I ordered my iphone at 1:30 this morning! I'm so excited even if it did still set me back $471 after the $450 upgrade/discounts. Danny Cooper Ouch, the stock just dived. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Markets liked the basic talk, the details are disheartening. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Q&A TIME!!! This is where I expect the meat!!! Greg Rowland If they comment on them... Celyn Szoke Just tell me speeds and connectivity will improve in SC Greg Rowland ‎...lol at the first guy up complains about the question process. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates They have in the past, where they can. Brad Moses omg enough about the iphone! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates We have lost 6 fans since the beginning of the conference and beginning live blog. I guess they can't handle all the posts over a short period of time. All these posts will be removed later and posted on a NOTE. Your wall won't be polluted forever.   Nolan L. Harper I say keep the blog posts coming Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Just lost another fan. LOL OH well. Maybe they just switched to Verizon? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates JOE EUTENEUER: Roaming reduction through additional geographic expansion/investment. ME: Yeah!!! Jerald Whitaker Also seeing blurbs on slides about "WiFi offload" as helping. I REALLY REALLY hope that means they're talking about VoIP service for phones like T-Mobile has. It's very nice. Joshua McDaniel Hopefully that means more towers for us rural users. Daves Williams it means wifi calling..... Barry Zeringue I wish some of us could ask Dan some questions right now Sprint 4G Rollout Updates They are expanding their network in NV. They've said it in the past. Largely focusing where they have the most roaming first. Joshua McDaniel As weak of a signal I have here, I roam a lot of the time, so hurry up Sprint. What was the release time for 800MHz CDMA again/ Sprint 4G Rollout Updates JOE EUTENEUER: We are getting SOME subscriber momentum. We are heading back to where we were in 2006. Betting on iPhone for additional growth. Network Vision, core business and iPhone is where we are betting the farm. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Paraphrased, of course. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates JOE EUTENEUER: Network Vision is about $10BN over next 2 years. ME: Heck, that's only half what you're spending on the iPhone!!! Chris Lenton zing! Franke Hernandez where are you watching all this Sprint 4G Rollout Updates http://investors.spr...&GKP=1073745942 Sprint 4G Rollout Updates JOE EUTENEUER: We have been criticized for not spending enough on CapEX, but it's not true!!! We've been dumping all our money on Clearwire. That's capex too! Michael Yim They didn't even post T-Mobile as a competitor... hahaha! Jason Robinson Lol Sprint 4G Rollout Updates JOE EUTENEUER: Regarding Clearwire, really, there is NO update. We will try to figure out what we can do with them in the future. Jerald Whitaker Feh! Liquidate the assets (excluding spectrum if possible) and use the cash to fund NV instead of bond issuance! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I like that line of thinking! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates JOE EUTENEUER: LightSquared. Held up, but not necessary for future. ME: It's just a cash cow!!! MOO!!! Jason Robinson There goes LS Jason Robinson There not gonna much work on it for future Sprint 4G Rollout Updates JOE EUTENEUER: Sprint is counting on subscriber growth. Expect strong return on investment for Network Vision. No comments Sprint 4G Rollout Updates REMINDER: During Live Blog of conference, wall posts by users are being blocked and removed. Sorry. Wall posting will return after conference. No comments Sprint 4G Rollout Updates FARED ADIB: First LTE dual mode CDMA devices mid next year (2012). Tablets, Smartphones, expect it all! Eric Murine Only Wimax/LTE chips in hotspots.....grrr Greg Rowland I only see it as a problem (for me anyway) if they don't roll out LTE in exisiting WiMax markets. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Eric...agreed. Jason Robinson Why sale Wimax devices if Wimax is not gonna much be used Jason Robinson Waste of money Sprint 4G Rollout Updates They gotta sell something. But I agree! Jason Robinson Newbies arent gonna know any better an waste there upgrade on a Wimax device Jason Robinson What are they saying now or talking. About Danny Cooper It's like the suckers that are going to buy the iPhone 4, or even worse, the 3GS on AT&T. Kevin Sundby sprint better be providing free upgrades to LTE to us loyal customers. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Kevin...that won't happen. I think the best to be expecting is an upgrade at contract price for those still on contract when LTE devices come out. Sprint can't afford free devices. Kevin Sundby I am ok with that.... but I get an upgrade in January and do not want to wait until LTE devices start showing up.... Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Yeah, it sounds like the earliest for LTE devices at this point is Summer 2012. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates FARED ADIB: We are still going to dump WiMax on customers (even though it's dying) Jerald Whitaker CDMA/WiMax/LTE only on hotspot devices Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Yeah. It sounds like no WiMax/LTE smartphones. Probably a battery drain. Jeff Keyseear Did he use the word " dump"? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates FARED ADIB: We're looking at HD Voice. Looking at LTE Advanced. We're dreaming big!!! Greg Rowland Which seems to mean that they won't be rolling out LTE Advanced right away. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Correct, Greg. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates FARED ADIB: 1xAdvanced will be in 2012 devices. (I guess that no 2011 devices support 1xA). Kendrick Allen i maybe slow on this, but please explain 1xA? Sprint 4G Rollout Updates I will at the end, unless someone else wants to jump in... Jerald Whitaker It users spectrum more efficiently than current CDMA tech. So more users per channel per tower in each cell. Trisha Langford Sims Being able to offer voice over 800 MHz Daves Williams http://images.scribb...972ac66b91d.jpg rev. b Kendrick Allen thanks! Joshua McDaniel Whoa! Rev B?! Awesome! Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Did I miss something? I didn't hear Revision B. Joshua McDaniel It was printed on the picture linked above as well as 1xadvanced. Karl Zeyher ‎1xA allows simultaneous voice/data no? it also has faster data than standard 1x. more data = better voice quality. not sure what else it brings? Greg Rowland Right, the SoCs in the picture are capable of it, but it would need to be implemented on Sprint's end as well, so unfortunately, it's not the confirmation that we've all been hoping for. Sprint 4G Rollout Updates Really, Joshua. I missed that. I can't download and look at it until the end!! DOH!!!   Click here for Part Two...

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New 4G WiMax Protection Site on the south side of Elmira, New York

A NEW 4G WIMAX PROTECTION SITE is active in Elmira, New York. The new signal is on the south side of town. This makes two towers active in the Elmira area, coupled with the one on the northside of town near Horseheads that's been active for months. The coverage area is very small and pathetic, though.   See coverage map below...  

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New 4G WiMax Protection Site in Whitesburg, Kentucky

NEW SERVICE ALERT : Whitesburg, Kentucky   A new Sprint/Clear 4G WiMax tower is now active in the Eastern Kentucky town of Whitesburg. Talk about a place in the middle of nowhere Appalachia. You guys will have a field day with this!   This is roaming territory for Sprint customers, which means that older generation WiMax devices may have problems connecting to this site.  

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    • to me rural coverage matters most....because i like being able to make phone calls and send texts in remote areas of the country ...i dont care about speeds i just care about per square mile coverage and over all usability and reliability
    • Tell us how you really feel @MrZorbatron!

      I think that most cellular players exaggerate their coverage. Yes, I suspected a long time ago that T-Mobile was one of the most egregious. Now according to the merger presentation, they will end up with 85,000 macro sites. That will be enough to match the coverage of pretty much everybody.

      Like you, I appreciate not having dropped calls or undelivered texts. In my area on my T-Mobile MVNO, I don't get any but can't say it won't happen elsewhere. Once Charter offers service via their Verizon MVNO, I think I will move my 4 personal lines there. My business line will stay on Sprint/T-Mobile, well, because I can't control that.
    • I do not welcome any part of this.  I don't think T-Mobile really cares about doing anything they say they care about.  I have seen how truly bad their network is in the ways that matter for essential communication, and I want nothing to do with it.  Say what you want about Verizon, but the one thing they have in common with Sprint is that they have historically built out a solid network before trying to make it extremely fast.  I don't care about 50 Mbps to my phone.  I care about calls that don't get disconnected constantly.  I care about that stock trade getting through when I send it, even if carried by EVDO, because EVDO still gets it through. Sprint's "Outdoor coverage" maps might seem exaggerated to some, but T-Mobile's maps are a complete joke.  Maybe Michigan is a bubble, the only state where this is true, but it really is very true here.  T-Mobile is the network of dropped and undelivered calls, mysterious disconnection, and "call failed" error messages. If this goes through, look for me at the nearest Verizon store because price to me is absolutely irrelevant.  I see two things happening if this merger goes through:  1:  Sprint spectrum is used to bolster capacity at T-Mobile sites, and 2:  As much of the current Sprint network as possible goes away, even if it means losing sites that would provide valuable fill-in density.  I saw the latter happen with Sprint and Nextel, after they insisted that all Nextel sites that could serve to increase Sprint coverage would be used.  Similarly, there were locations T-Mobile could have used MetroPCS locations to improve their own coverage but didn't, even where it left holes in their network.
    • Not when Verizon just bought 1GHz of mmwave spectrum. Those were the policies of the past. If it does not get approved, it would the loss of jobs and the fact that it might not be good for consumers. Although when I look at the table on this page, comparing unlimited plans, it is already evident that the other three are not really competing and Sprint's lower prices are not working since they did not manage to steal anybody from the other other three. To me it is evident that were Sprint to remain independent they need massive investment in their network since competing on price is not enough anymore and low prices just deprive their network of investment.
    • And I would definitely say that merger probably or probably not won't be approved. If not I would have to say it would be on the grounds of cellular asset divestiture.
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